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Title: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: JacksSmirkingRevenge on September 29, 2010, 01:15:49 am
First I have to clarify. Fast shot does not effect the AP of a weapon on burst but Bonus Rate of Fire does? Also, does both Fast Shot and BRF effect single shot weapons? Instead of having 4 AP for a 14mm it would be 2 AP?

This build is based off of shooting the 14mm pistol. I would also shoot an Assault Rifle if needed. also I chose to do criticals because of how many shots I could get off on a 14mm. this Char wont be a drug user.

ST: 6   
PE: 6
EN: 6
CH: 1
IN: 6
AG: 10
LK: 6

Traits:
Small Frame/Fast Shot

Skills:
SG/Doc/OutDoors

Perks:
3: Stonewall
6: More Crit
9: More Crit/Better Crit
12: Lifegiver/ OR Action Boy If I can get off an extra shot on the 14mm That would be fine.
15: Lifegiver/ OR Action Boy
18: BRF
21: More Crit/BetterCrit


Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: borse on September 29, 2010, 02:26:01 am
nice idea. Perhaps do this with EW build? The shooting animations are faster :)
Use plasma pistol - 2 AP per shot just like 14mm.

ST:6
PE: 6
EN: 6
CH: 1
IN: 6
AG: 10
LK: 6


Traits:
Small frame/fast shot

Perks:
3. Stonewall
6. More Critical
9: Better Crit
12: Lifegiver
15: Lifegiver/actionboy
18: BRF
21: More Crit

Okay so I don't know where you can get cookies, but they raise your AP by 1. Perhaps if you used that with 1 actionboy you'd get your 12 ap. Otherwise you're better off just gathering jet while you level and then use during combat. I know you said this was a clean build but at level 21, drugs would make you serious badassness!!!

Edit: On second thought... You'd be fucked against tesla armor. As for criticals, wouldn't you want to take 10 luck? you're sitting at 16% crit chance on torso with 6 luck
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: HertogJan on September 29, 2010, 01:06:50 pm
If you're only using pistols, you only need 4 ST (5 for an assault rifle).
With both 4 or 5 ST you can replace small frame (-1 character point) with good natured and put 1 ST point in AG to compensate.
With 4 ST that leaves you with another character point which can be put in IN or PE.

Personally I always prefer to tag FA over doc as you will need FA more than doc.
With 4 ST and no small frame, you can put the extra spare point in IN to raise both doc and FA to at least 100.

Perks:
3. Toughness or Awareness instead of Stonewall
To get 1 extra AP, you need both action boy perks.


Resulting in:

ST: 4
PE: 6
EN: 6
CH: 1
IN: 7
AG: 10
LK: 6

Traits: Good Natured, Fast Shot

Perks
3. Awareness/Toughness
6. More critical
9. Better critical (prefer to take this at level 9 over another more criticals)
12. Lifegiver/Action Boy
15. Lifegiver/More critical/Action Boy (if taken on level 12)
18. BRoF
21. More critical

This results in a build with 10 or 12 AP (depending on perks), critical chance 21.
Skills (roughly:)
SG: 200
FA: 150
doc: 100
outdoors: 100

Note that 12 AP would mean you can fire an entire clip of 14mm in your first turn.
If you take drugs, you can also reload in the same turn.
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: borse on September 29, 2010, 02:03:02 pm
^
nice build, but I think that you're going to face some troubles with knock down if you don't have stonewall or high endurance.
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: Ymeogamaouas on September 30, 2010, 01:32:11 pm
why do you need both Action Boys for 1 AP?

The descriptoion on the wiki says 1 perk = 1 AP


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Perk
Action Boy 
 
Requirements  Level 12, Agility 5 
Ranks  2 
Each level of Action Boy (insert Girl if you wish) gives you an additional Action Point to spend every combat turn. You can use these generic APs on any task.
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Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: HertogJan on September 30, 2010, 01:44:37 pm
why do you need both Action Boys for 1 AP?

The descriptoion on the wiki says 1 perk = 1 AP

My bad, I meant 1 extra shot.
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: Ymeogamaouas on September 30, 2010, 01:50:52 pm
No worries, I am about to take a perk with my main and if each Action boy was giving 1/2 AP I would just skip it!
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: JacksSmirkingRevenge on October 23, 2010, 09:10:15 am
Im level 21 and I need advice on what to take for the last perk. Either More crit (I have 2 already) or should I take Better crit?
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: Crazy on October 23, 2010, 12:52:26 pm
Im level 21 and I need advice on what to take for the last perk. Either More crit (I have 2 already) or should I take Better crit?

If you do aimed shot, better rit is a must have, better than more crit.
If you burst, or unaimed... Both are viable.
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: Besmrtnik on October 23, 2010, 04:49:28 pm
one of my build is this,

I dont know but I think is better...
my question why you dont take living anatomy??

Resulting in:

ST: 4
PE: 7
EN: 6
CH: 1
IN: 8
AG: 8
LK: 6

Traits: Good Natured, Fast Shot

Perks
3. Awareness
6. Bonus ranged Dmg ( +2 dmg to weapon specifics)
9. Bonus ranged dmg ( +2 dmg to weapon specifics)
12. Lifegiver
15. Living anatomy ( +5 dmg )
18. BRoF
21. Action boy

char will have 10AP and 171HP
only bad thing is I took too much percepcion, so you can put that one point, to inteligence so you can get even higher skills

also you can take small frame but I dont like it, btw this is smg bruster, I can brust 2 times and I have 2 more ap for reload, and I giving a great dmg

I had same plans to make a new one, with 6 PE and with small frame so I can have 8 EN for more, I forgot but its over 200HP


Skills (roughly:)
SG: 219
FA: 160
doc: 150
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: HertogJan on October 23, 2010, 06:13:32 pm
If you're a burster, fast shot means you're wasting a trait.
Take one hander instead.
9 AG means wasting 1 point as it gives the same AP as 8.
That build isn't possible without small frame btw.

For a burster:
ST 4
PE 6
EN 8
CH 1
IN 6
AG 10
LK 6

Traits: Small Frame, One Hander/Good Natured
Tagged skills: SG, FA, OD

Perks:
2x Toughness
2x BRD
2x Lifegiver (level 12 and 15)
BRoF

Resulting in:
SG 183 with one hander perk there's an addition 20% bonus which you don't see in your skill
FA 134
Doc 100
OD 100
223 HP
10 AC
10 AP
10 DR
That's without drugs and armor.

Note that one hander and 4 ST means you'll suck with any 2 handed gun like assault rifles.
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: theyseemetrollin on October 23, 2010, 07:23:27 pm
dude fast shot EW laser pistol, trust me it works really well.
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: JacksSmirkingRevenge on October 25, 2010, 03:02:07 am
Is Living Anatomy worth getting for a burster? With regards to LA do Ghouls count as living?
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: Ganado on October 25, 2010, 03:44:20 am
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Is Living Anatomy worth getting for a burster? With regards to LA do Ghouls count as living?
1. It will only give +5 damage to the entire burst, so I would say "no";
e.g.: Minigun does 100 damage burst, with Living Anatomy it would be a 105 damage burst, not that much different. I would get BRD, unless you already have taken that twice and have a free perk spot.
2. Yes, they count.
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: JacksSmirkingRevenge on October 25, 2010, 04:19:03 am
This was my perk lay out

3: quick recovery
6: brd
9: brd
12: Lg
15: Lg
18: brf
21: I was going to take LA but I also had Sharpshooter on my list (I like to see far) or I guess I could take toughness?
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: Solar on October 25, 2010, 01:04:38 pm
IF you're going to be doing a 14mm fast shotter then you will need LA.

With 2 AP for one shot, it gives you +25 damage from a full 10AP turn vs any (living) target.
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: zato1 on October 29, 2010, 04:19:14 am
14mm for the win. i use a rifle/14mm pistol build myself. good times, good times.
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: JacksSmirkingRevenge on October 29, 2010, 07:08:41 am
Are there npc's that I can kill that carry 14mm?
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: Nexxos on October 29, 2010, 12:46:57 pm
Are there npc's that I can kill that carry 14mm?

Khan Raiders around their main base, Redding Caravans. Those are the only ones I can remember now.
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: Crazy on October 29, 2010, 03:40:10 pm
Trappers near redding too.
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: Besmrtnik on November 01, 2010, 11:54:05 am
HertogJan I writed wrong I have 8 AG, and fast shot its not waste of trait, coz this is both bruster and single shot build, 14mm pistol rly kicks ass, and when I come rly close I burst, and yes living anatomy is worth it :) 5 shots 25dmg(+20%doc not 10%), thats like almoust one more hit, and it can change way of the battle, and ofcourse I think this builds are have much better use in turn base
Title: Re: SG FastShot build Q's
Post by: JacksSmirkingRevenge on December 14, 2010, 04:39:10 am
ok need some advice.

I got 39 skill point to spend.

SG 201
FA 150
Doc 100
OD24

should I put them all into FA? OD is fine at 24 this is character is used for encounters.