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Title: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: DSEX on September 01, 2010, 05:40:03 pm
I'm helping my frd about this.

He's having a problem about The Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG

Its a bug?


- Fast Shot trait works only with weapon modes that have aimed shot capability.
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Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: Crazy on September 01, 2010, 05:50:36 pm
Burst is not a mode with aimed shot capability.
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: LagMaster on September 01, 2010, 06:52:45 pm
but the punch is,why is not afected?
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: Crazy on September 01, 2010, 07:18:41 pm
Fast Shot. A puch isn't a shot (or a weapon) ;p
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: Jaszczomb on September 01, 2010, 07:36:53 pm
Does it work with grenades?
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: LagMaster on September 01, 2010, 07:47:01 pm
now i think no,but,OMG

Does it works whit bigguns?
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: RavenousRat on September 01, 2010, 07:49:04 pm
now i think no,but,OMG

Does it works whit bigguns?

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUu
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- Fast Shot trait works only with weapon modes that have aimed shot capability.

Edit: I meant read carefully.
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: Michaelh139 on September 01, 2010, 09:53:39 pm
Fast Shot is now a almost completely useless trait sadly.  When it said it only works for aim shot capable weapons doesnt that mean -1ap to all modes for them?  I mean seriously it certainly sounds like it but yeah Don't pick Fastshot for any build now kids  :(.
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: Crazy on September 01, 2010, 10:01:20 pm
It's a fact it's pretty useless now.
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: yoz on September 01, 2010, 10:16:03 pm
Fast Shot is now a almost completely useless trait sadly.  When it said it only works for aim shot capable weapons doesnt that mean -1ap to all modes for them?  I mean seriously it certainly sounds like it but yeah Don't pick Fastshot for any build now kids  :(.

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- Fast Shot trait works only with weapon modes that have aimed shot capability.

Weapon modes, not weapons.

Wait, so does fast shot reduce the ap cost of aimed shots now?
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: RavenousRat on September 01, 2010, 10:18:10 pm
Wait, so does fast shot reduce the ap cost of aimed shots now?
Yes, but problem is... you can't do aimed shots with Fast Shot trait...
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: Michaelh139 on September 01, 2010, 10:18:56 pm
Weapon modes, not weapons.

Wait, so does fast shot reduce the ap cost of aimed shots now?

4 ap single shot   (No aimshots)  6 AP burst [like without fastshot prewipe]
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: yoz on September 01, 2010, 10:23:07 pm
So now fast shot reduces the unaimed shot ap cost, disables aimed shots, and does not affect burst ap cost?

Just........... LOL

I mean, the tradeoff for every build is between aimed criticals and unaimed bursts, not between aimed criticals and unaimed single shots lol. This "rebalancing" is funny :D
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: Badger on September 01, 2010, 11:00:35 pm
Wait, it doesn't affect burst with all weapons? The way I thought it worked was that it didn't affect burst-ONLY weapons.
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: Michaelh139 on September 02, 2010, 12:05:14 am
Wait, it doesn't affect burst with all weapons? The way I thought it worked was that it didn't affect burst-ONLY weapons.
Like I said it is useless now because it only gives you a -1 ap for SINGE SHOT.  It doesnt afect BURST at all.
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: runboy93 on September 02, 2010, 07:01:51 am
It's a fact it's pretty useless now.
Useless for BG pro's :P
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: mahoraz on September 02, 2010, 10:03:06 am
lets just say that if fast shot was disabled for burst-only weapons and not others.... the with a p90 for example you could have used burst 4 times in 1 turn when you had 10agi and 2x action boy....

but yes..... its quite useless now
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: Crazy on September 02, 2010, 11:55:42 am
Well maybe with a 14mm it could be effective?
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: HertogJan on September 02, 2010, 12:37:40 pm
Well maybe with a 14mm it could be effective?

When using it with an AG10 build with 2 AB and 2 BRD you can do some nice damage.
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: Crazy on September 02, 2010, 12:42:16 pm
Well with 10 AG + jet, living anatomy, few more crit, you can shot 6 times in a row, that mean +/- 130 dmg without criticals. But of course, you have to shoot 6 times...
Title: Re: Trait - "Fast Shot" is not working w/ 10mm SMG
Post by: Michaelh139 on September 02, 2010, 12:45:43 pm
Well with 10 AG + jet, living anatomy, few more crit, you can shot 6 times in a row, that mean +/- 130 dmg without criticals. But of course, you have to shoot 6 times...
Well I gues if you had mercs or slaves to distract the victim(s) it could work but then there's nothing stopping them from super stimming.