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As the title says. I'd really like to know that.
Added a poll for that even though I am more interested in your describtions why you like Place XY more then place ABC.
And I don't mean "I like place XY because I can easily access Crafting Material ABC there", no, I mean why do you like the certain atmosphere of this place the most.
I hope, this thread becomes crowded and filled with different opinions. Also I'd like to see which town provides the "best" music for you.
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New Reno. Multiple good traders to deal with, fun PvE encounters around it, and almost always another player to fight in-side the city. 8) And the whole Mordino drug part is also very good.
Okay, and in f2, there are a ton of quests where you get to assassinate people.
Modoc also has a lot of good quests, and I how I see a real post-apocalyptic village, except not in as bad-shape as Gecko.
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Hehe, maybe I misspelled, I meant more which place in general fallout you find good ;) But you can even descibe the specific FOnline reason aswell, thanks Abe!
Finally added the poll aswell.
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Do you mean Fallout or FOnline? I'm just a bit confused because it is here and not at the Off-topic section. :-\
E: Allright. ;D
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I'm just a bit confused because it is here and not at the Off-topic section. :-\
Sorry to confuse you. :P
You have 3 Votes to make in that poll, btw. :)
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Glow from F1 - for its hi tech and ZAX
V13 For it self - great fabular place
Mariposa - Only from Fallout 1 - for its "secrets" of muties :>
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I picked Toxic caves, Den and Vault City.
I like Toxic caves because it is like a place of lost old technology which you discover and explore it's powers. It is similar like SAD, Mariposa and the Glow...
I love Den as a smalltown of crime and drugs, where simple honest people like Mom live with outlaws like Metzger + the graveyard in the middle of town is just beautiful...
I like VC because it's the town where civilization and GECK technology meets the people of wasteland, with the cultural clashes, felling of superiority and purity, controversy of slavery in such society...
EDIT: The most I like the guitar track when on WM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CsLYRViuEc&feature=related), though I have a thing for the NCR music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBE5yx7G89o&feature=related) too, in fact all fallout music is just perfect.
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Thanks Ned! I exactly wanted to read such posts! Now if everyone would also write which music track they liked most I would be a happy care bear. :)
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You mean music track - or its irony - if so - i like most "TLA menu track" and the blow ow wind of course ;)
Also i like the strange music/voice in Broken Hills
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Normaly my post would be longer, but I'm too tired to write a long one and I can't go to bed without posting here. :D
1. The Hub
I love the city for it's style. It's dark, destroyed and depressing and fits perfectly into the world of Fallout. The organisation attracts me pretty much too. There are caravans, merchants, a police unit and a bar driven by the local criminal. It is just like I imagine a city in such a game which makes the Hub for me to THE city representing the postapocalyptic world of Fallout.
2. The Glow
I just love the fact that you really have to prepare before you go there, because I missed the survival aspect in Fallout. You "have" to get some Rad-X, Rad Away, a geiger counter, a rope and gear to protect yourself. Altogether with exploring the Facility and reading all the discs you can find there, the Glow is the most exciting place to me.
3. Modoc
I like the place for it's simplicity. Just some farmers who try to survive in a destroyed world. Very atmospheric.
Well, I think the best music is that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpgphEhyYNs) and that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds71pvzOBTE&feature=related).
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Erm, I picked
1. New Reno: Well, this might be a given. I have always enjoyed the free pvp there. The long streets are a bit of a pain in the ass for sniper camps, but none the less, has always been fairly fun. There are a number of bartenders to trade with, the Rocketman and Eldridge in Commercial section. One of my biggest problems though with Reno is, that since the Reputation systems implementation, the casino people as well as the pimp/hookers eventually become a complete PAIN IN THE ASS. You pvp there, collateral damage eventually happens, its fairly a given. I would like it if some npcs just ran the hell away from you... like hookers and pimps. They see you, they should just run the fuck off to escape. :P Having to go there pre-pvp with ammo and a crappy gun just to clear out the spastic NPCs that will swarm you on sight is tedious and I am fairly sure anyone who has pvped there has some idea of what I talk of.
And 2nd, Boneyard made another choice of mine. This might not be high on some peoples list, but...
I love the area. Being fairly active in the area since first playing 2238, I have enjoyed how it has developed. The scenery is nice, with mountains nearby just outside a city terrain, with a few traders, and even a train station now to cut away the long walk if you don't want it (not to mention that the train goes to SF and NCR both, some of the most interesting places to run off and fart around in), with some fairly alright encounters for low levels. Yes, the dogs can be a horrid pain, but some armor and fighting instead of running can be a nice method of grinding out some gradual xp. Top this off with a few neat quests added since last wipe in the area, a 1 Charisma trader along with a midget bastard, and you have a nice area.
Finally, lastly I leave with comments about Hub.
Always liked Hub, though I am a little iffy on it being automatically a part of NCR during 2238. Despite that, it has plenty of shops, lots of crapcows, scorpions outside in the wasteland, and only a short walk to either Junktown or (more importantly) Boneyard, and even Necropolis, its ... well, as the name says, a Hub. Taking the train from NCR, its not really that far out of the way now, either. I've Pvped there too in the past, with some extremely fun results, having a shootout among the buildings with pks. Quest-wise, its a little lacking, but that is fine. Hub is still great and I look forward to its future incarnations with anticipation.
In the end, I found it hard to actually pick places (only 3? NOOOO) because I am fond of a few other areas. Gecko is awesome, but its pvp-playground combined with windowless buildings (Gtfo no-windows), longggg walks to any exit grids, wide open spaces gives me bad vibes, and lots of bullets. Love the ghouls and reactor, however, and it always holds a place close in my heart. SAD is extremely fun, though sadly almost entirely ignored by players(and pvpers) from my experience during the present era. :( And lastly, Frisco. Great place, fun(and damn deadly) encounters, sadly hidden behind a wall of sand and said hardass city encounters. Its one of the few places that can be really challenging even to a lone lvl 21, which keeps it very high on my list despite its far-off distance.
... Yeah, I went overboard, but I said I liked lots of places. Like lots more, but I do have to shut up at some point. :D
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Thank you Winston and Gatling!, (http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/images/smiles/clap.gif) , this is exact the type of post I want to see here!
Guess I should post mine too, now! You should know, that the general atmosphere of a place FOR ME is always determined by its music. I've listened so much of this music Mark Morgan did over the last few years I can send every note to my synthesizer even while asleep. :P So you know, this music is really important for me.
But also the graphical style! Everything in a certain color palette, everything looked rusty/fucked up/destroyed but also gave a bit of hope... Yep..
1. Modoc
This place I think, is the most realistic thing they could pull off in Fallout 2 after such a long period of time. They try to survive, planting seeds, cropping...
They are starving aswell. :-\ But you can help them. They provide rather "human" quests, not unrealistic things. The questline "Help/Defend/Attack" the Slags is good. The Music!!!! My FAVORITE track in all of the Fallouts Titles. It is SO much haunting, such a good ambient track that it followed me into my dreams. The mellow but slight melancholic/depressive atmosphere is shining through. MUSIC HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Qr8iChODs
2. The General Wasteland (forgot to add that in the poll, will do that)
The Atmosphere! It's a desert. It is flat. You barely see anything. There is just death out there. There is just death out there. THERE IS JUST DEATH AWAITING YOU! No, but seriously. This music track is the first you hear in every fallout title (1/2) at the characters creation and later in random encounters in the middle of the desert. That track burned into my brain, this track doesnt leave any options over for being funny or such, it is mean, depressing, it is the wasteland. The maps also represent that. If one asks me what "Fallout is about" - I show him a little dialogue with good written things off of Fallout, then these maps, that game track and a turn based fight. This is fallout for me. MUSIC HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZUOBRa0UIU
3. The Boneyard
Seriously. A city, "living" in ruins. Some small groups of scavengers, organized by a mean group of armed man. People living among once high skyscrapers. Isnt that too a climax of a postapocalyptical thingy? I found it depressing, and fitting. Also, the music! Amazing "cover" of Aphex Twins "Grass" on this, Mister Mark Morgan! MUSIC HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iEeEAjPYqk
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I choosed:
KLAMATH: I love its atmosphere in FO2, it made it look as an interesting little humble place where some Gecko hunters rounded up.
THE DEN: I simply love the den, it has some of the better quests in FO2, it has one of the best atmospheres in all the game and all the NPCs there are interesting in some way.
THE HUB: As some people has already said this is THE CITY of the wasteland, is a little trading comunity formed out of several trading "companies" and is one of the most interesting and fun places to be, it also has some good quests in it.
The music i love is the one from VC and the world map one in FOnline, idk if this was the same music in FO1 and FO2 in the world map but i simply love this track
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Modoc - The best PVP city ;D
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I like most SF, because there are few good unarmed guys (ST 10, heavy handed, bonus hth damage x3 yay)
They are good, but i win easily :P
New Reno is good place too, but too weak boxers :P (2 criticals and last one down)
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1) Vault 15 in Fallout 1
I like this because of first scavenge experience in Fallout. Search in abandoned, destoryed vault, with very own history, but also very same to my own Vault 13. 2 Vaults close together with very different fate, this was the first atmpspehere boost in my Fallout gameplay experience.
I would like to see scavenging in Fonline, very similar to this one, search for lost, destroyed abondoned vault, radioation there, enemy NPC, for pre war stuff and information about the users. We have existing Vault map (base map) who nobody uses, why not to transform it into previous purpose?
2) HUB
Because of music i heard in first few seconds, atmosphere in HUB was very different from others cities locations.. if i breathe deep in HUB, i smell start of post apocalyptic world rebuilding. Dreams of many post apo citizens tread into dust filled with brahmin shits.
It is very sad that HUB is dead city in Fonline. It is because of distance, but also nothing to do there. Enable water merchants, (and supply bases), repetable caravan protecion quests. I can imagine that if there will be repetable caravan protecion quests every half of hour, players will meet there for that purpose => chat, another centre like NCR could be created.
3) Glow
Nuclear bombardment, RADIATION, limited time, forbidden technology, mysterious secrets, jump in the story, quest for Brotherhood of steel membership => for me best moment in Fallout 1/2 game.
I miss radiation element in the game, i miss the limited time you need to finish some quest or you will die because of inner flame, i miss the scavenging, searching for secret technology.
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Hub - it looks exactly how capital of post-apocalyptic world should look. There are law forces, criminals, shopkeepers, junkies, brahmins, caravans, religious freaks ... Everything. I feel like a home there.
Boneyard - it's peaceful and calm, many cool places around (Warehouse, Library, train station), it also perfectly fits to Scavengers style I think.
Cathedral - in F1 it was the scariest place ever, with like 10 crazies on every square meter. For some strange reason it was destroyed in this era of FO, dunno why really. Give it back after wipe, "plx plx plx plx" :>
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F1: Necropolis - best atmosphere and übercool Seth
F2: Sierra Army Depot - excitement from exploration + guy in water tanks on top level
FT: Pretty much any mission till first half of the game. Anything further such as supermutants and robots pretty much fucked up the atmosphere.
F3: Since VB was never released then the answer is "none".
But I must say that F2 is really poor compared to F1 when it comes to overall feeling from the game. F1 had great atmosphere everywhere you went. F2 does not work that way for me and I have "mmo" feelings from time to time there. Like I'm doing that quest just to get that exp and reward so I can do something better elsewhere. But in F1 from the fist encounter with rats to the last moments of Master's life it was one epic journey.
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I heaby declare Junktown Stoners only!
The chillest place in the wastes, always mellow there.
(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/8516/rrrq.png)
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Navarro - I like Enklave.
Junktown - Is nice postapo city.
Enclave OIL - i Love it base! ;D
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Gecko - Ghouls, specially because there is Harold--| I just
Necropolis - Huge town of Ghouls, their leader--------| love Ghouls
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Junktown - I like junk, metal, and this kind of towns -- FOnline reason - long or not a long time ago it was a peaceful place.
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fallout 2 : New Reno, I loved the many quest there
fallout 1 : vault 13 you fight for them , you love them , you was betrayed ...
fonline : golgotha , because before going and pk at new reno we group or regroup there , very inspiring ...
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it's too hard to decide. I picked junktown, the glow and golgotha. but I love every place in the wasteland because each is unique and has a different charm. thats the thing i loved most about first fallouts. each town is completly different. whereas each town in fallout 3 was equally boring.
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I tend to like the little sleeper towns. In Fallout 1, Shady sands had a great atmosphere. I do like Modoc too, in part because of the music, it's so dreamy and nice :)
If I had a to choose a bigger town, it'll be Hub.
Oh, and not to mention Glow. Going down there for the first time was a scary (in part because of my young age at the time) and surreal experience I won't forgot :)
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Hub, Modoc & Golgotha, nuff said.
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NCR... many people there... you can chat in peace until some bomber come :) funny and cool town.
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The Boneyard (I guess you already knew it because of my suggestions) because of the urban scenery (by the way, they have done a GREAT job with those urban maps for FOnline), and the people (NPCs) which you cna find there: scavengers, regulators, followers... It was a very interesting place in Fallout 1 because of the political tensions due to regulators' opression, the scavengers who needed to avoid the deathclaws, the gunrunners (they had the best store in F1).
I would like to know why the devs decided to create a Boneyard in which the Vault Dweller had not decided to help the Blades against the Regulators (when it is obvious they followed the good karma Vault Dweller canon). Not that I am against this, but I still would like to know the reason.
Anyway, cool thread Surf!