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Title: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Michaelh139 on August 18, 2010, 12:58:05 am: start out with 80 HP.

have 10 PE.

100 in Unarmed.

10 APs.

(Not sure but do they or do they not level up?)

We gotta wait or 3d models prolly but why not give Dogs a weapon, like Metal Claws, or use flint on a dog's teeth to sharpen them.

Have "search for item(s)" commands. (I KNOW I KNOW FO3 BULLSHIT BUT IDC THAT WAS AWESOME)
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Nyan on August 18, 2010, 01:29:34 am: >use flint on a dog's teeth to sharpen them.

You are the most retarded person in the whole world. I mean it. I just dont even
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Cocain on August 18, 2010, 02:07:36 am: IF anything dogs should be allowed to find targets.. like choosing from a list what u wish to encounter on the wastelands, adding ( just as an example) 40% chance to do so.

heres the raw picture: by talking to the dog a list is present, u select one, like silver geckos... as long as theres geckos on that area u get a 40% chance of finding them in a "random" encounter
resources like fruits/fibers/brock flowers/xander root/junk could also be included

since im feeling creative we could also give players a perception bonus as long as the dog stays within the player original perception range
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Parowooz on August 18, 2010, 02:13:31 am: Quote from: Michaelh139 on August 18, 2010, 12:58:05 am
use flint on a dog's teeth to sharpen them.

What the fuck? How about I'll sharpen my flint on YOUR teeth? YEAH HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT?

~your beloved animal rights activist
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Michaelh139 on August 18, 2010, 02:47:31 am: To the animal lovers,

This is the fucking wasteland, if I'm some evil motherfucker that wants to get the best out of my dog's bite by sharping his teeth with a fucking rock I can do it, now please, stop your overy luvvy duvvy PETA riot on this thread, your posts will prolly get junked anyways.
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Cocain on August 18, 2010, 02:53:15 am: Quote from: Michaelh139 on August 18, 2010, 02:47:31 am
To the animal lovers,

This is the fucking wasteland, if I'm some evil motherfucker that wants to get the best out of my dog's bite by sharping his teeth with a fucking rock I can do it, now please, stop your overy luvvy duvvy PETA riot on this thread, your posts will prolly get junked anyways.

yeah im pretty sure thats not going to happened, might aswell think of other ways to improve them :P
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Wipe on August 18, 2010, 02:56:03 am: Quote from: Michaelh139 on August 18, 2010, 02:47:31 am
To the animal lovers,

This is the fucking wasteland, if I'm some evil motherfucker that wants to get the best out of my dog's bite by sharping his teeth with a fucking rock I can do it (...)

Not on my shift.

(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/383/444992w4h5ljrfhq.jpg)
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Michaelh139 on August 18, 2010, 02:58:44 am: Fine fine gawd it was just a god damn suggestion... I didn't expect everyone who plays FOnline a place where death is everywhere and people kill each other just to laugh would be so hypocritical to go apeshit over sharpening a dog's teeth jesus...

How abut their sharpening their claws if the "Claws Weapon" dosn't work out?
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Cocain on August 18, 2010, 03:04:05 am: Quote from: Michaelh139 on August 18, 2010, 02:58:44 am
Fine fine gawd it was just a god damn suggestion... I didn't expect everyone who plays FOnline a place where death is everywhere and people kill each other just to laugh would be so hypocritical to go apeshit over sharpening a dog's teeth jesus...

How abut their sharpening their claws if the "Claws Weapon" dosn't work out?

lol ur too focused on making dogs killing machine.. read my suggestion, there are other ways to make them useful
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Ganado on August 18, 2010, 03:10:43 am: Dogs definitely need a boost, that much I can agree with. How much HP do they have? 14? 28? Something around that? "Wild Dog" and "Wolves" encounters are all around better than these dogs you can buy at Junktown, and the ones in Klamath are even crappier, but even the wild encounter dogs are easily killed with one shot or punch.

I think HP needs to be boosted and damage should be boosted. I like the PE suggestion too; they could actually act as a guard dog and start to run after a person before you even see them, giving you that extra little... ~~hand~~ paw :)

Never the less, dogs really shouldn't be anything "PvP-worthy". The way I look at it, it could be a helping hand to a low-level newbie, but even if that is the use for it, it still needs to be boosted. A dog shouldn't be able to get killed by a puny scorpion.
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Cocain on August 18, 2010, 03:16:03 am: [quote author=Dishonest Abe link=topic=8083.msg70168#msg70168 date=1282093843
. I like the PE suggestion too; they could actually act as a guard dog and start to run after a person before you even see them, giving you that extra little... ~~hand~~ paw :)
[/quote]

my point exactly.. they could even negate stealth bonuses ( or at least diminish them) to be able to detect ambushes from hidden players.. for that reason alone i would get one for sure

i lost number for the times i got ambushed by players
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Parowooz on August 18, 2010, 03:41:26 am: Quote from: Cocain on August 18, 2010, 03:16:03 am
negate stealth bonuses ( or at least diminish them) to be able to detect ambushes from hidden players
Best idea so far. I would love that to see it in the game.
Title: @!
Post by: Blarg on August 18, 2010, 06:48:54 am: OMG 10 PE dogs would rock... it could help against thief's
Please Devs you know dogs have 10 PE !!1!
With the smelling
and the hearing!
and the ninja dog senses.
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Quentin Lang on August 18, 2010, 10:25:56 am: Quote
or use flint on a dog's teeth to sharpen them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFN_xuwiDW0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFN_xuwiDW0)
ahahahahahhahah... HAAAHHAHAHHHH.. MWAHHAHAHAAHA AAAH AAH AH AAAAAAAAAH!
(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9397/hahahaf.gif)

Seriously, what the fuck? Do you even know how do teeh look and consist of? You cant fucking sharpen them; it would result in dawg loosing all his teef....
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Nyan on August 18, 2010, 12:44:25 pm: well, Christopher Walken did it in Sleepy Hollow.
(http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/sh_059Walken.jpg)

but hey, that's Christopher Walken
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: kraskish on August 18, 2010, 05:37:54 pm: What about a mortar dog? The dog would carry a mortar on his back and fire it up with the use of his tail! That would make dogs useful!

But really... 80-100hp, 4 attacks per turn (robodog had 110 hp in F2 and 4 attacks per turn). They didnt level though.
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Alvarez on August 18, 2010, 06:03:28 pm: Dogs having 150 Outdoor, so you could get a useful travelling companion warning you about encounters.

I mean, how difficult could it be?
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Chiko on August 18, 2010, 06:05:59 pm: Quote from: Alvarez on August 18, 2010, 06:03:28 pm
Dogs having 150 Outdoor, so you could get a useful travelling companion warning you about encounters.

I mean, how difficult could it be?

Thats somehow one of the best ideas so far! I like it and it could be helpful for beginners too.

Chiko
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Nyan on August 18, 2010, 06:08:50 pm: http://guarddog.50webs.com/index.html
prepare yourselves
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Ganado on August 18, 2010, 06:09:43 pm: Quote from: Nyan on August 18, 2010, 06:08:50 pm
http://guarddog.50webs.com/index.html
prepare yourselves

Can you like, stop spamming, maybe?
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: TwistedIndoctrine on August 18, 2010, 06:12:18 pm: What about the ability for a character with high doctor skill to surgically remove the dogs vocal chords and to clip the dogs nails regularly making them high stealth high perception killing machines in PvE?

Can we use buff out and psycho on dogs?

It'd be cool if you could get more than one type of dog too. For example the little girl or whatever in New Reno(? I forget where the second dog vendor is) sells bloodhound and saintbernard friendly mutts or something - ridiculously high perception stats and outdoorsman. And seeing as companions don't gain perks with levels it'd be nice if it was possible to set we could just give them some perks by default such as strong back, pack rat, ranger, explorer, scout maybe you know stuff to make them good utility animals.

Meanwhile dude down in junk town sells mean pitbulls and doberman mutts (yes mutts in both cases, lol at pure breeds in the wastelands) who they make fight to death out behind bizmo's for fun and money. Give them roughly average perception (by dog standards) reasoning their nose, ears, and eyes are all a little roughed up along with the rest of their faces from the hound fighting ring but give them really high strength and agility. And like wise if its possible to give them perks by default give them toughness twice, Faster Hand to Hand Attacks, and either the heavy handed trait or bonus HTH damage a time or two.

Bam two different types of dogs for two different types of companions. Some guys want a loyal buddy for finding stealthers and chasing off theives for them, while others want freaking Dogmeat the junkyard dog who eats danger and craps victory.
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Alvarez on August 18, 2010, 06:23:13 pm: Quote from: TwistedIndoctrine on August 18, 2010, 06:12:18 pm
It'd be cool if you could get more than one type of dog too.

I second this.
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Quentin Lang on August 18, 2010, 07:04:46 pm: Anti tank dog, craft dynamite, buy dog, combine dog with dynamite in fixboy. VOILA!
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: kraskish on August 18, 2010, 08:39:28 pm: Quote from: Quentin Lang on August 18, 2010, 07:04:46 pm
Anti tank dog, craft dynamite, buy dog, combine dog with dynamite in fixboy. VOILA!

Thats what we call a war meat!

I also think there should be a division:

aggro, tank dog - robodog (looks most probable as armored) would have stats like metal armor mk 2

scout dog - increases your outdoorsman by 50%

blind-man dog - increases your PE by 1-2 (up to 8 )

slaver dog - increases your PE in caves by 2 (you hear sounds, or your dog tells you who dwells in the cave)

feral dog (or the unlucky dog from fallout 2) Luck 1 and if the luck was 1 the encounters are 100% bigger, may come with jinxed

attack dog (hound?) mostly concentrated on attack, usual 100 hp and 4 attack per turn,
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Alvarez on August 18, 2010, 10:30:15 pm: I wonder, if there's a bigger chance of implementation of all of this, if i start to make different dog colours.
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Parowooz on August 18, 2010, 10:31:10 pm: There are already some diffrently colored dogs posted on NMA, fully animated and stuff.
Title: Re: List of dog upgrades. -make em useful.
Post by: Alvarez on August 18, 2010, 10:50:58 pm: Quote from: Parowooz on August 18, 2010, 10:31:10 pm
There are already some diffrently colored dogs posted on NMA, fully animated and stuff.

Yea, good ol' X'il.

Tho, i mean not colour variations, but such as ripped german shepherds. Or maybe dalmatians.