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Project “Netural Ghost Farm”
Concept :
Main idea of concept will be netural territory in Ghost Farm, wich will be guarded by players. Rules will be simple, no shooting, no thiefing, no sneak.
In this area players will try to keep law, and any means of force will be prohibited, exeptions goes towards trolls, spamers, aggressive people, thiefs and suicide bombers. Later project may expand to other parts of city. Guards wount separate people on pk or anti pk, and will be aggressive only if someone will violate listed above rules and terms.
Support :
Projet request support of main pvp gans on the server, due to the danger of being wiped out by such gangs. We hope to recive conformation from such gangs, that they wount be aggressive towards this city, and also about their willing to join the guard and others means of assist towards NNR project. If most of PK and Anti-PK organizations will sing for support of this project, guards will have a chance in keeping law in New Reno.
Guards :
Main guard will consist of characters with special nicknames wich will refer to colours, such as: Green, Black, Dark Red, Raven, Light Yellow, Olive, Pink, etc. Guard can also be joineable for any player, willing to help. Small advice to people willing to support this project, to keep your second characters above the map, so if you will die guarding, you can relog and come back to fight. Ofcouse player driven guard wount be possible 24/7, and it will depend on time zone, and if no of official guard will left on 2nd street, people can take responsibility of keeping peace and neutrality there.
GM opinion :
Couple of GMs said that they will support this idea, and in future, if project will expand, it will be possible to add additional scenerys and npcs, and by other means, in within their rules
Subprojects :
Based on NNR project, it will be possible to open other subrojects inside the city, such as RP, trading groups, pit fights and etc. And NR gives much opportunity for such projects if we will manage to keep it safe We hope to make something better than NCR.
Writed by Oliver. Translated by Voland (V_guessWho).
P.S. Project will started at 17.00 on GMT 1 august 2010.
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I support the idea and I engage myself to try to defend the 2nd street but I think it will fail because of power of Raiders Gangs. They will just come in town with 15 players and destroy everything.
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...or may be will not destroy but will help... ? )
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...or may be will not destry but will help... ? )
Ha ha ha ! Man, they are raiders, so they raid and kill. If people defend a place so there is other people to attack them. This game is about surviving, killing, raiding,etc.
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Why do you want to protect the sin city? Anyway this project will fail because of escalation. You bring 3 people to defend the city. Bad guys will bring 5- You will get mercenaries to every entrance and use blacklist for enemies, they will come with mutant squad. You will set up 30 man defense, they will gather up a temporary alliance to kill you etc...
Game lacks challenges and only thing to do is PvP so we play and we kill. And when there is something like this going on it gets interesting for many people so they come to test their skills and have some fun. But eventually it will fail because its too easy to invade and ruin any kind of city defenses right now so the town will never be "PC guarded" such as NCR is thx to NPC. Also how do you want to punish thieves and find out who is using FA and who is the thief (they will provoke you just to have excuse to suicide bomb you few moments later).
Something like this was during second season in Modoc. We were fighting PKers there and even random bluesuiters and "PC citizens" were fighting with us. It was considered a guarded town most of the times. But to your project, well: Good idea - bad place - impossible to execute or maintain.
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Whats the point of this?
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But eventually it will fail because its too easy to invade and ruin any kind of city defenses right now so the town will never be "PC guarded" such as NCR is thx to NPC
Even NCR can be easily destroy by a big gang but they don't do that because if they do GMs will get angry and instant-kill them all.
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Sounds like target for PKers...wont work imo.
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Even NCR can be easily destroy by a big gang but they don't do that because if they do GMs will get angry and instant-kill them all.
Hum... No ? No we won't. And I'm quite sure none of the big gangs can take NCR right now. But that's not the topic.
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Hum... No ? No we won't. And I'm quite sure none of the big gangs can take NCR right now. But that's not the topic.
My gang can destroy NCR I don't see any strong protection.
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Then try...
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New Reno, and especially Virgin Street is taken and protected by Mordino & Salvatores Family alliance.
If you would try to set the police in our anarchy town we will destroy you.
The first and last warning was set now.
@Oliver
Check PMs...
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Why do you want to protect the sin city? Anyway this project will fail because of escalation. You bring 3 people to defend the city. Bad guys will bring 5- You will get mercenaries to every entrance and use blacklist for enemies, they will come with mutant squad. You will set up 30 man defense, they will gather up a temporary alliance to kill you etc...
That cant be said better.
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Im Support this project and want be in it. :)
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Oliver perfectly know the consequences wich will be revealed in time.
The point of this project, atleast, make something different than another ffa event.
If you implying that there's nothing to do expet pvp, the problem is with you, because if person really wants to do something, he will do it. Players do define quality of gameplay too, but refuse to take responsibility for their actions.
So either you can keep praying on your pvp, or do something else.
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If you implying that there's nothing to do expet pvp, the problem is with you, because if person really wants to do something, he will do it.
People can RP in WoW too and they can setup local defenses and act how great their Ashenvale Druid Defense group is. But they won't because the game does not support such actions. Why do you keep thinking that FOnline is something like Fallout PnP? Yes you can do whatever you think of and if its not supported by the game itself then simply act like it is or create your rules... yeah but this don't work even in DnD Online and it certainly does not in FOnline. The game is limited by its content which is apart from PvP slightly above none. Don't expect people to RP in MMO. 1 out of 1000 will but the rest enjoys PvE, PvP, quests, features and such much more than pretending something.
And if you have not noticed if you want to protect the town or its part, then you have to kill to do so ergo its another PvP "project". It could have some value if its not posted on forums and if the defended town has something to offer for players but none of it is the case of this event of yours so I think it will quickly fade away. Nothing like I'm against it, no its otherwise. I root for you but only the fact that you have announced this at forums makes its target for PKers.
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Once and for all.
I understand that you like talking, and talk about things wich were not mentioned at all.
I haven't say we refuse pvp, also nowhere mentioned that it's RP project.
The point of project is not to provoke for more pvp action, we have tc and mines for that already. Project being started simply because people either dotn enjoy tc pvp, fed up with ncr or any other obvious reason.
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This is the kind of thing that normally evolves organically in games. People go to places where there's stuff to do. Once there's more content, it won't be so big a problem.
I support your efforts. But there's a reason places like this aren't populated yet, and trying to force it won't keep it going forever.
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well I am curious if this project will work at least for some time... and if it will, then may be our Trading company will be interested in joining the project and open a trade branch in Reno... but first we have to know, the streets are safe... so prove yourself...
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Then try...
isn't it the case that gaurds start spawning rapedly when NCR is under attack?
I believe they call for caravan help, oh do they keep spawning forever or does it end?
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isn't it the case that gaurds start spawning rapedly when NCR is under attack?
Yes, it is. But let them try ;)
Anyway, this is not point of the topic.
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This is the kind of thing that normally evolves organically in games. People go to places where there's stuff to do. Once there's more content, it won't be so big a problem.
I support your efforts. But there's a reason places like this aren't populated yet, and trying to force it won't keep it going forever.
Im afraid this man is right.
Still i wish you luck in your project.
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We will change location of this project. Now this is Ghost Farm.
List of gangs who said "yes" :
TTLA
RDA
VSB
Alliance of Shadows
West Side Necromancers
NRA
"no" :
The Crazy Barbarians
BBN
BBS
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well, at least it will be better for defending...
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I am will speack whith Lexx about add on this place second exist. Then will be 1 enterance and 2 exists.
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But what is the interest in defending ghost farm ???
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And why should the Red Dot Army protect bluesuits?
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But what is the interest in defending ghost farm ???
The brahmin shit of course! :)
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And why should the Red Dot Army protect bluesuits?
They will betray them of course...
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And why should the Red Dot Army protect bluesuits?
You dont understand, we can say yes to help realise this project if its really needed.
If it will be made we will be bad pk raiders ; / but we wont attack this place so specially because TC is more important.
Imo its rather better place for "pk's" because it s hard to do something bad in ncr now ;)
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Why ghost? but under it you have nice place :)
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Megan Fox speacking right about their sight on Ghost Farm..
First problem in this project, that we must have able defend this plase. This able can be, if all big gangs will say : "ok, we will not attack this place". But when BBN tell "ok" and after do agressive motions, then we need in new more defend-able location. We can defend 2nd street from TCB and polish part of Rogues, but not + BBN.
And last, if you want help come in this place even in bluesuit mode and walk or speack. For new neutral place need cityzens.
P.S. Sorry for my obviously bad english.
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Is the project running right now? and btw, why dont you try to run this project for example in Broken Hills? TTTLA was controlling it quite frequently and with help of other gangs it could be possible to hold it, or not?
Anyway, I try to visit Ghost Farm some time and I will see how safe it is...
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Becoase TTLA killing PKs in BH at the sight. Ghost Farm try to be by place where is anti-PKs dont killing PKs and where is PKs dont killing anti-PKs.
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Becoase TTLA killing PKs in BH at the sight. Ghost Farm try to be by place where is anti-PKs dont killing PKs and where is PKs dont killing anti-PKs.
It will be rather hard to make i can say impossible ;)
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Possible, if all will understand, that except PvP may be any intresting projects and other things.
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But what's the sense of coming to Ghost Farm where is nothing useful? Just to watch? This way I can watch NCR or Hub for example.
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1. Brahmin's shit
2. Ore and minerals
3. Worckbench
4. Encounters whith brahmins nearly.
5. Encounters whith robbers (jet) nearly.
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But what's the sense of coming to Ghost Farm where is nothing useful? Just to watch? This way I can watch NCR or Hub for example.
it depends on players if this project will live or not... they can make it a meeting place to RP, trades or whatsoever...
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To dig a brahmins shit? ;)
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what about underground?
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and may be Puzan can organize there some melee pit fights events :P
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Say me for how long they can do it Enzo. A hour? Maybe two.
Saw that armed guys in NR about a hour ago? I think they could crash guards of those ghost farm in some minutes.
Don't understand me wrong, I dont want to make this project down but I think it's useless and too weak as for now.
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But what's the sense of coming to Ghost Farm where is nothing useful? Just to watch? This way I can watch NCR or Hub for example.
I'm breaking the First Rule, but hell, if any quick-trigger-guys will come there to pwn n00bz, we need to find a new spot anyway.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img842/6572/fightclubghostfarm.jpg)
Imagination is the limit.
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and may be Puzan can organize there some melee pit fights events :P
Nah, if its Oliver from The Nordic Marauders gang( russian guild)then i think all its will be just a dreams , and empty talks because its will be verry hard work to make peoples trust them in security questions , to bad reputation :-\
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I am from Nordic Maradeurs ? Are you crazy ? I am know their leader in real life, but i am have war whith them now. :)
I am have my own really small (5-6 guys) gang and on this moment we doing only duels in RT and some others useless things, becoase we try to contain all our old maters.
Edit : We will start protect Ghost Farm across 1-2 days, becoase i must be not in my town small time.
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My gang can destroy NCR I don't see any strong protection.
Yeah, just try it.
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My gang can destroy NCR I don't see any strong protection.
I think that you can´t , they have somewhere in city about 1000 Soldiers that are ready to fight.
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I think that you can´t , they have somewhere in city about 1000 Soldiers that are ready to fight.
Its mostly just that there are so many police officers in the city walls, and when there is alot of npc gaurd deaths, they come running out... or is it they come but if its quickly resolved they just go straight back?
*looks nervous around*
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This topic is about Oliver Project . Please talk about it , Not about ''how to claim NCR city'' ..
I think when everybody will meet on irc and next in game with full stuff and safe underground. it can be funny think ;)
Well.. we should try
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God damn it Wichura! Why I didn't know about that?! Me and my rotten luck!
I'm breaking the First Rule, but hell, if any quick-trigger-guys will come there to pwn n00bz, we need to find a new spot anyway.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img842/6572/fightclubghostfarm.jpg)
Imagination is the limit.