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Title: Craftable LSW
Post by: kraskish on July 30, 2010, 01:03:16 pm
Simple as that. LSW could be craftable for BG 3... it has the same range and AP cost but almost 2 times smaller dmg than avenger minigun... soooooo why not make it craftable?

Avenger minigun: 8-11 (40 rounds)
LSW: 10-20 (10 rounds)
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: runboy93 on July 30, 2010, 01:13:48 pm
I think it should be craftable..
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Tomowolf on July 30, 2010, 01:14:28 pm
Totally - agree - i hate slaughtering SF caravans for this :s.
It would have 1/3 more resurcess needed than - m60 - and it would be good.
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Dark Angel on July 30, 2010, 01:15:06 pm
I say yes.
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Quentin Lang on July 30, 2010, 01:28:16 pm
While i understand why Bozar or Pulse rifle or Gauss rifle isnt craftable, i see no point why LSW shouldn't. Its not that powerful and is effective enough to be one of the most used weapons. Everyone anyway is getting loads of them trough SF caravans. 1 roll trough the wasteland and you return back to base with even 5 of them if you know the spots.

So yeah, i vote yes.
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Michaelh139 on July 30, 2010, 08:02:17 pm
LSW in certain scenarios is actually better than Avenger...

LSW bgunner and Avenger bgunner both 20 hexes from each other, Avenger bursts for 60 damage, LSW bursts for 80 damage who guna win?

Hell I saw a Rogue lsw burst one of my friends for over 100 about 30 hexes away, wha de fok?
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Crazy on July 30, 2010, 08:07:47 pm
LSW in certain scenarios is actually better than Avenger...

LSW bgunner and Avenger bgunner both 20 hexes from each other, Avenger bursts for 60 damage, LSW bursts for 80 damage who guna win?

Hell I saw a Rogue lsw burst one of my friends for over 100 about 30 hexes away, wha de fok?

Totally false, unless of critical hit. And Avenger crit make more damage than LSW crit.
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Michaelh139 on July 30, 2010, 09:47:30 pm
Totally false, unless of critical hit. And Avenger crit make more damage than LSW crit.
It was raw damage...  But since I dont use big guns personally, I'll take your word for it.
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Ganado on July 30, 2010, 11:35:00 pm
Avenger does more :)

On topic, yes, implement it, why not? It doesn't give any bad dis-balance, and it is good alternative to hunting down SF caravans, which is the only way to have it. I think every weapon, to some extent, should have crafting and PvE alternative.
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Michaelh139 on July 30, 2010, 11:39:00 pm
and it is good alternative to hunting down SF caravans, which is the only way to have it.
or buy lsw mercenaries  ;).
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: LagMaster on July 31, 2010, 09:06:02 am
i am voting NO, becose it  uses less ammo than the Adv Mini(30<120)so that is why is so used
plus:i think the animation for LSW is shorter than the 1 for Adv mini,but i am not sure
well,this is my opinion
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Mr Feltzer on August 01, 2010, 06:25:00 am
Yus Pl0x
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: gordulan on August 01, 2010, 01:40:08 pm
I'd say yes to this, despite me not being experienced with Large Weapons...
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: eBay on August 01, 2010, 03:33:37 pm
up to perks if u have the good ones avenger does twice more dmg than lsw
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: LagMaster on August 01, 2010, 08:58:22 pm
well i voted NO,but i am thinking:the only BG that uses .223 are Bozar(not in game,i thing) and LSW, so why does BGcrafters craft it?
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Crazy on August 01, 2010, 09:16:27 pm
well i voted NO,but i am thinking:the only BG that uses .223 are Bozar(not in game,i thing) and LSW, so why does BGcrafters craft it?

Because there is LSW.
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: gordulan on August 01, 2010, 09:31:16 pm
because it isn't a high-end weapon
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Nexxos on August 01, 2010, 09:37:42 pm
well i voted NO,but i am thinking:the only BG that uses .223 are Bozar(not in game,i thing) and LSW, so why does BGcrafters craft it?

Bozar is in the game actually. Even I've got one.
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Ganado on August 01, 2010, 10:01:18 pm
Bozar is in the game actually. Even I've got one.

Considering that is only Special Encounter weapon, do you really plan to use that in combat? No, therefore it doesn't count.

@ LagMaster: Your arguments against the LSW are quite invalid, because you can already get the LSW. Implementing the LSW as a craft-able weapon wouldn't change combat at all considering many people already use the LSW; it would just give those people an alternative to having to fight SF Caravans.

I'm sure many people would continue to kill SF, unless that encounter itself is changed. The stats/damage of the LSW as an argument not to make it craftable won't make a difference.
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: manero on August 02, 2010, 12:11:30 pm
Voted YES. I don't see any reason why LSW isn't craftable. Can Devs explain that? ;)
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: kraskish on August 02, 2010, 08:57:48 pm
Well I posted the topic because its pretty popular and there are not so much weapons to craft for BG. .223 ammo market would benefit as well :p
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: TheRiot! on August 02, 2010, 10:07:00 pm
i didnt know why LSW isnt craftable. This gun looks and works like M60 ( but m60 is craftable )
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: kraskish on August 02, 2010, 10:22:22 pm
i didnt know why LSW isnt craftable. This gun looks and works like M60 ( but m60 is craftable )

Ok, so in SG theres a variety. You can choose either less powerfull (cheaper) guns among guns to craft. Ok M60 is ok... just it uses 7.62mm which is hard to get not giving anything special except for big magazine size. Craftable LSW should be just a formality... seriously, players who can kill SF caravans get easy and powerfull stuff, while others or just people trying out guns wont have it at all.
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Shangalar on August 03, 2010, 08:26:04 am
Buy LSW from the confederation of Frisco, for fair prices !  ;D
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: KraftikBG on August 03, 2010, 08:40:30 am
Buy LSW from the confederation of Frisco, for fair prices !  ;D
But we want to craft him , not buy it ...
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Dark Angel on August 03, 2010, 08:57:29 am
agree with that
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: TheRiot! on August 04, 2010, 04:11:32 am
but avanger is most powerfull and is craftable/lootable ( enclave )
Title: Re: Craftable LSW
Post by: Dark Angel on August 04, 2010, 06:28:02 am
but avanger is most powerfull and is craftable/lootable ( enclave )

Hey kid , can you read?
Its About LSW , we dont talk about avanger