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Title: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: Zarecki on July 25, 2010, 09:20:59 pm
Hello! Everyone knows that Fallout 3 was realy seccsesful selled right? But I have something extreamely against fallout 3! THEY RUINED THE STYLE OF FALLOUT! . First 2 parts were made by InterPlay, but have you noticed that FALLOUT 3 was made by Bethsoft which means a totaly different creator! They made from Strategy Role Playng Game to 1st Person Shooter! I have to admit that I played Fallout 3 alot! And there were stuff that made me Disapointed, TOO EASY! I played for 2 days on Very Hard and Passed the whole game with ALL quests!*Yes I was completely nolifing 2 days*.

Now I have a question for YOU! Do you agree with me that Fallout 3 was not ment to be like that?
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: gordulan on July 25, 2010, 10:51:09 pm
fallout 3 is shit... the game is filled to the brim with bugs, and the FPS system is plagued by instapause, and then there's the oblivion sneak style, instakill crits with a combat shotgun from sneak mode, if 1 pellet hits outside of vats, they all hit, and they all get critical hits
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: Michaelh139 on July 25, 2010, 10:54:47 pm
It was too easy, But you can make it hard by limiting yourself and using mods, but as a great man once said:

"Shouldn't a good game be great without mods?"
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: Zarecki on July 25, 2010, 10:59:03 pm
It was too easy, But you can make it hard by limiting yourself and using mods, but as a great man once said:

"Shouldn't a good game be great without mods?"

Yes I saw the mods. I used some of them like adding alians and such into the game! Adding zombie appocolipse also! and yeah 14mm Pistol is sweet!

But that didnt realy help! The game was still easy and all you need is 1 good gun and thats all....
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: Michaelh139 on July 25, 2010, 11:00:14 pm
Yes I saw the mods. I used some of them like adding alians and such into the game! Adding zombie appocolipse also! and yeah 14mm Pistol is sweet!

But that didnt realy help! The game was still easy and all you need is 1 good gun and thats all....
Get the COD mod.

three-five shots and your fucking dead, but that goes with everything else in the game :P.

You will die.
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: Zarecki on July 25, 2010, 11:01:52 pm
Get the COD mod.

three-five shots and your fucking dead, but that goes with everything else in the game :P.

You will die.

HAHA THANKS =D! Now while server is off Ill go give it a try. ;]! Wana meet INGAME =D?!
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: Michaelh139 on July 25, 2010, 11:05:24 pm
HAHA THANKS =D! Now while server is off Ill go give it a try. ;]! Wana meet INGAME =D?!
Np, and sure, ncr?
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: jodwig on July 25, 2010, 11:30:23 pm
Fallout 3 would be really great game, even as 1st person shooter with RPG elements, but not made by that sick Bethesda. Many people think that Oblivion ruined The Elder Scrolls, and they used same engine to make Fallout 3 = they are just morons -.-

I'm Fallout 3 modder by myself, because I didn't like all that bullshit in game. You are playing on Very Hard, so you get doubled EXP points? WTF? They created nice, big world, but screwed 90% of the game and I fully agree with Gordulan. In my mod I tried to restore previous Fallout style. It's not that big mode, but pretty balanced IMO. Now I'm slowly working on v2.0 of the mod which is much bigger. If anyone is interested it's called "After War Mod" and you can find it on fallout3nexus.

My motto is: "once you try mods, you will never come back to vanilla" :D
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: gordulan on July 25, 2010, 11:46:51 pm
that's the only reason I got the "goty" edition, so I could shoot rednecks from sneak mode with my trusty anchorage "gary21 glitch" combat shotgun from 300 metres away, because one of the pellets will hit, no matter what, and at that distance nobody's gonna spot you if you're wearing the chinese stealth suit and have 85 sneak, hilarious really I gotta tape that and upload it to youtube, It's practically the only reason I play it at all anymore, just for TEH LULZ.
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: Michaelh139 on July 25, 2010, 11:47:57 pm
My motto is: "once you try mods, you will never come back to vanilla" :D
Fuk yeah.
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: gordulan on July 25, 2010, 11:57:15 pm
too true, would be awesome with different heights for different people as well, but that ain't ever gonna happen, the damn oblivion engine sucks, rock hard, I'd like to see so different body types as well, ain't ever seen a fat guy in FO3, and I ain't ever seen a C-cup chick, ever, and what the fuck is up with only 1 chick following you at all, and on top of that, she's hideous and will only join you if youse evil, that sucks, although, I practically, loved the ghoul you culd get, Charon was fucking awesome, just because he was taller than any standard fucker, he carried my spare T51b, the rusted us army from that quest where ya gotta shoot fuckers in the 'ead...


"rant over, I have released the demons, this place is clear now"
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: Zarecki on July 26, 2010, 01:46:05 pm
Fallout 3 would be really great game, even as 1st person shooter with RPG elements, but not made by that sick Bethesda. Many people think that Oblivion ruined The Elder Scrolls, and they used same engine to make Fallout 3 = they are just morons -.-

I'm Fallout 3 modder by myself, because I didn't like all that bullshit in game. You are playing on Very Hard, so you get doubled EXP points? WTF? They created nice, big world, but screwed 90% of the game and I fully agree with Gordulan. In my mod I tried to restore previous Fallout style. It's not that big mode, but pretty balanced IMO. Now I'm slowly working on v2.0 of the mod which is much bigger. If anyone is interested it's called "After War Mod" and you can find it on fallout3nexus.

My motto is: "once you try mods, you will never come back to vanilla" :D

You understand the whole problem for me is that they took the good Idea of Original Developers and tried to Upgrade it. Althou they only ruined it
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: jodwig on July 27, 2010, 01:33:24 am
You understand the whole problem for me is that they took the good Idea of Original Developers and tried to Upgrade it. Althou they only ruined it

Yep, but they didn't want to upgrade it, they just used Oblivion engine (Gamebryo or something like that) and made Oblivion with guns using Fallout concept. And now people for first 2 Fallouts are working on New Vegas, but still on that ugly Oblivion engine, so even if it will be better than FO3 (although I don't like that Cowboy style...), it can't be compared to previous Fallouts...
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: Eternauta on September 25, 2010, 08:36:00 pm
I do play Fallout 3. Something I like about it are the elements of pre-war American culture: various items (books, cleaners, etc.), company buildings, Cold War-inspired propaganda posters... But when you actually stop and think that it is supposed to be a Fallout game, well yes, you kinda get a litte dissapointed.

While I was playing I kept asking to myself: where the hell have SPEARS gone? Why the hell are there some bounty hunters called "Regulators" who think they have more authority than anyone else to shoot you in the face but at least fight the raiders and shit... when we all know the Regulators were the opressive policemen of Adytum? Why do they use the same name? And what's with the leaders of the Slavers? were those pimp clothes really necessary? And what the fuck is a food sanitizer?? it magically makes food better?

That's what Fallout 3 is in a nutshell: a WTF game. It's unplayable without mods, it's easy and, in my opinion, the only skills really worth spending point on are Small Guns, Lockpick, Repair and Science. That goes against Role Playing elements.
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: avv on September 26, 2010, 09:23:23 am
Combat was basically bang bang, stimpak, stimpak, bang bang, stimpak stimpak. Especially against super mutant overlords. One of them ate 21 frag mines. I made a goddamn mine field in vault with narrow tunnels and he just charged through them. All the enemies ever do is charge and attack. They never try anything else and their reactions to getting shot is ridiculous. I crippled super mutant overlord's every limb, torso and face and he still kept coming.

Another issue are the dumbass npcs. They all have the same look in their faces and the same body type. Nobody is fat, slimmier, taller or shorter. Everyone is the same with differend face but without facial expressions. When I sold that stupid kid as slave he shouted at me with angry voice but had totally emotionless face.
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: borse on September 29, 2010, 04:36:53 am
Get the mod that lets you have followers like in fallout 1 and 2 :D
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: SmartCheetah on September 30, 2010, 10:51:05 pm
The only good thing about bethesda and their engine used for fallout3 and oblivion is that it's easily moddable. And community which is creating so called "plugins" is amazing(if not most amazing of all modding communities) as well. That's what I love.

Everything else? Shit, garbage and maggot decorated vomit.Their games are unplayable without mods. Morrowind&Pirates of the Caribbean were last titles I liked from their stable(but I had to use dozens of plugins as well)
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: Mr Feltzer on October 03, 2010, 07:17:26 am
I Agree, If There was No Mods I Could Easily Create Or DL And Play.

Fallout 3 = Goes to the Bin In a Split second
Title: Re: Fallout 3, Ruinder Classic
Post by: TommyTheGun on October 03, 2010, 09:25:48 pm
I wouldn't say that F3 is a shit due to the engine. It's just retarded cause it's not G'old Fallout climate, interesting missions and characters anymore. So you can see everyone - not only 10 char sprites, right? Still i think that those few pixels were much more interesting then super detailed 3d people that have nothing interesting to say. Even if liam nesson is your dad.

I say - get me a group of the best modders, 3d creators, and some oldschool, pretty wise (or should i say - not retarded enough to create plot as stupid as the one from F3) writers. And that engine, with GECK can hold wonderful game - maybe not as good as old Fallout with turn based fight, but with really good postapo climate. Oh right - voice actors would be great - but it shouldn't be a problem as well.

The only thing about Bethesda I really appreciate is that they are creating modding kits good enough to show them that a bunch of modders can create much better game then developers themselves.

I mean - come on. How would you feel if there was at least one character as interesting as .. let's say - Sulik in F3?