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Title: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Dylan Fraser on June 22, 2010, 05:19:43 am
There's a guy named Metal standing at the entrance of the bazaar.  Every time I enter, he shoots me dead and the guards don't react.  I'm not vilified.  Only reason for this I can see is that he's idolized...

Although he's killed me about four times.  Shouldn't that decrease his rep to a point where he's no longer idolized, preventing him from killing me again?
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Hertz on June 22, 2010, 05:32:54 am
i saw you shoot a guy named forrest than he came up and busted yo ass lol
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Dylan Fraser on June 22, 2010, 05:36:30 am
i saw you shoot a guy named forrest than he came up and busted yo ass lol

I killed Forrest, then got killed by the guards.  I came back to NCR on a separate instance and then Metal killed me without repercussions, and then killed me several more times in this same manner.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Hertz on June 22, 2010, 05:38:31 am
i beleive you lose protection after so much killing,stealing,trolling etc..not confirmed
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Dylan Fraser on June 22, 2010, 05:40:30 am
i beleive you lose protection after so much killing,stealing,trolling etc..not confirmed

Way to assume xD
I killed a tent follower twice.  I never stole from anybody at all, so I would never have lost protection.
And trolling?  Come on.

At any rate, protection SHOULD come back after death.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Michaelh139 on June 22, 2010, 05:43:22 am
He's hated not vilified is what he's trying to get at.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Dylan Fraser on June 22, 2010, 05:44:58 am
He's hated not vilified is what he's trying to get at.

The guards shoot you on sight if you're vilified, don't they?
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Nexxos on June 22, 2010, 05:58:48 am
The guards shoot you on sight if you're vilified, don't they?

If you are Hated, anybody can shoot you without the guards reacting.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Dylan Fraser on June 22, 2010, 06:35:37 am
Really...  I see.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Michaelh139 on June 22, 2010, 06:37:49 am
If you are Hated, anybody can shoot you without the guards reacting.
as unupdated as the wiki is....  that is false, my profile was constantly on the verge of vilified (Hated) but whenever i was attacked I was stil gaurded.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: gordulan on June 22, 2010, 06:39:23 am
i guess that once again there's an issue with the AI...
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Dylan Fraser on June 22, 2010, 06:40:03 am
i guess that once again there's an issue with the AI...

It was just that one guy who was able to shoot me, though.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Michaelh139 on June 22, 2010, 06:40:12 am
i guess that once again there's an issue with the AI...
Theres always a damn issue with the AI.....
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Michaelh139 on June 22, 2010, 06:40:36 am
It was just that one guy who was able to shoot me, though.
Ah ah ah, he was the only who tried.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Dylan Fraser on June 22, 2010, 06:43:26 am
I think I recall Forrest shooting me and getting gunned.  Although that was before Metal started killing me.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Michaelh139 on June 22, 2010, 06:43:48 am
I think I recall Forrest shooting me and getting gunned.
oh... I didn't notice that then.  Meh.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: RavenousRat on June 22, 2010, 07:10:16 am
If you are Hated, anybody can shoot you without the guards reacting.
Hahaha, if what you said was true then I should be dying at NCR everyday by idiot punchers and other scum. I was hated at NCR most of time month ago and everytime someone punched me (every 5-10 minutes while I was standing there), guards killed him.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Ganado on June 22, 2010, 01:03:39 pm
This is just a bug that I've noticed too. I punched a guy to death once in NCR, but guards killed me, and when I re-spawned and came back to NCR, I still got the message that said "You've caused troubles in this town. The guards will not protect you". So I died again and then I became unprotected.

To solve your problem, if it still occurs, try dying in a different way this time. Like, punch an NCR guard or blow yourself up. I'm not saying this will work but I have a good feeling it will.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Sheepify on June 22, 2010, 03:04:27 pm
Just to be difficult:

Why should a flag resulting from a hostile act reset immediately after death, instead of requiring an invisible countdown waiting period?

Which, in fact, could be stackable.

And take real long time to clear.

Unless you bring the guards whole crate of booze.

And fresh hookers. With a random risk of getting a severe rep penalty if, despite of all your efforts, they are not...  8)
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Michaelh139 on June 22, 2010, 08:46:14 pm
Just to be difficult:

Why should a flag resulting from a hostile act reset immediately after death, instead of requiring an invisible countdown waiting period?

Which, in fact, could be stackable.

And take real long time to clear.

Unless you bring the guards whole crate of booze.

And fresh hookers. With a random risk of getting a severe rep penalty if, despite of all your efforts, they are not...  8)
;D








yes
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Tomowolf on June 22, 2010, 08:55:13 pm
OMG you (all newbz and others) won't change like a "war war never change" change the fucking city and everything will be okay !! zomfg you don't understand t hat NCR is central city of california but when it is teh biggest and players come here you would know that this is place for:
thiefs, noobs, gms, sbombers, adventure serachists,!111oneone.

BTW i even check this city when i need to go to workbench like 1 time a day and it is maximum state!!! Change this city to Junktown or Hub and you will be pleased.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Dylan Fraser on June 22, 2010, 09:57:25 pm
OMG you (all newbz and others) won't change like a "war war never change" change the fucking city and everything will be okay !! zomfg you don't understand t hat NCR is central city of california but when it is teh biggest and players come here you would know that this is place for:
thiefs, noobs, gms, sbombers, adventure serachists,!111oneone.

BTW i even check this city when i need to go to workbench like 1 time a day and it is maximum state!!! Change this city to Junktown or Hub and you will be pleased.

This really isn't the topic.  There was a single guy who seemingly knew that he could kill me repeatedly.  And he did so.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Hertz on June 23, 2010, 07:08:20 am
actually dylan,i saw you run up to forrest and burst him,so i blasted you.i figured you were tagged (dead man lol) and jus killed you on sight

Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Dylan Fraser on June 23, 2010, 08:42:13 am
actually dylan,i saw you run up to forrest and burst him,so i blasted you.i figured you were tagged (dead man lol) and jus killed you on sight

How does that make any sense?  If I burst Forrest, the guards kill me.  Me becoming unprotected isn't even in the equation.  Not to mention the fact that I had died several times and was killed in the same manner.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Michaelh139 on June 23, 2010, 08:50:21 am
How does that make any sense?  If I burst Forrest, the guards kill me.  Me becoming unprotected isn't even in the equation.  Not to mention the fact that I had died several times and was killed in the same manner.
Didn't any one notice the part where he also killed this poor newbie right before he left via exit grid?

37 hp shovel and leather jacket :/.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Forrest on June 24, 2010, 12:56:23 am
How does that make any sense?  If I burst Forrest, the guards kill me.  Me becoming unprotected isn't even in the equation.  Not to mention the fact that I had died several times and was killed in the same manner.
do you have really bad karma with ncr?
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Ganado on June 24, 2010, 12:58:24 am
do you have really bad karma with ncr?

If he is Vilified then guards would shoot him on sight, and if he was Hated or better, then he should be protected after death.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Dylan Fraser on June 25, 2010, 08:28:19 pm
If he is Vilified then guards would shoot him on sight, and if he was Hated or better, then he should be protected after death.

Funny story, I know a guy whose vilified, yet the guards don't shoot him.  Something is broken here.  Also related to this, is my post about caravans attacking you when you're at antipathy, yet not when you're hated.
Something is wrong, here.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Marko69 on June 30, 2010, 01:38:33 pm
i beleive you lose protection after so much killing,stealing,trolling etc..not confirmed

I confirm this, you are flagged as dangerous 30 minutes or 1 hour after you commit a crime in town.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: abegade on June 30, 2010, 02:58:05 pm
Fact is that shit happens if u act like a moron troll everytime  8)
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Ganado on June 30, 2010, 03:46:02 pm
I confirm this, you are flagged as dangerous 30 minutes or 1 hour after you commit a crime in town.

He meant that he thinks that once you do X amount of bad things in a guarded city, you become unprotected even after death. This is not the case.
Title: Re: I'm Being Repeatedly Killed In NCR
Post by: Dylan Fraser on July 01, 2010, 01:51:09 am
He meant that he thinks that once you do X amount of bad things in a guarded city, you become unprotected even after death. This is not the case.

They don't seem to get it, Abe.
Instead of addressing what is clearly a glitch, they just spout,
"Serves you right for doing X"