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Title: Death
Post by: TCMTroll on June 15, 2010, 07:59:38 am
Started tonight, started shoveling shit in NCR, and made a mistake trying to push a brahmin, and somehow accidentally attacked it. Got massacred in 2 seconds.

Pissed me the hell off.

Anyway, seeing how easy it is to drop dead, 2 questions:

1. When I respawned I had nothing in my inventory. Is there a chance I'd be able to run back to where I died and get my stuff back (like in Diablo 2)?

2. If you're wearing armor and have a weapon equipped, do those get lost too when you die? If so, I don't know I'm up for this game.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: GroeneAppel on June 15, 2010, 10:33:14 am
Started tonight, started shoveling shit in NCR, and made a mistake trying to push a brahmin, and somehow accidentally attacked it. Got massacred in 2 seconds.

Pissed me the hell off.

Anyway, seeing how easy it is to drop dead, 2 questions:

1. When I respawned I had nothing in my inventory. Is there a chance I'd be able to run back to where I died and get my stuff back (like in Diablo 2)?

2. If you're wearing armor and have a weapon equipped, do those get lost too when you die? If so, I don't know I'm up for this game.

You lose everything on death. This is a full loot game.

Anyway, I suggest you do quests instead and craft, they earn far more than shit shoveling and are far more interresting.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Quentin Lang on June 15, 2010, 11:01:09 am
Started tonight, started shoveling shit in NCR, and made a mistake trying to push a brahmin, and somehow accidentally attacked it. Got massacred in 2 seconds.

Pissed me the hell off.

Anyway, seeing how easy it is to drop dead, 2 questions:

1. When I respawned I had nothing in my inventory. Is there a chance I'd be able to run back to where I died and get my stuff back (like in Diablo 2)?

2. If you're wearing armor and have a weapon equipped, do those get lost too when you die? If so, I don't know I'm up for this game.

When you die on constant map (city, base, tent, place where you always can go) you drop all the stuff and anyone can pick it back. If you manage to go there quickly before someone finds it, you get the stuff back. If someone loots it all you loose the stuff. If you die in PvE in an encounter, and noone to bak you up, you loose everything. This aint casual game, its hardcore one. (Aint gonna use ''Wasteland iz harshz'')
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Orm Azzurro on March 10, 2013, 04:57:54 pm
Not casual... crazy. How am i supposed to start at all? I have literally no chance against the weakest encounters. The online version is a good idea, losing evrything on death is a bad one.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Tomowolf on March 10, 2013, 05:05:16 pm
Not casual... crazy. How am i supposed to start at all? I have literally no chance against the weakest encounters. The online version is a good idea, losing evrything on death is a bad one.
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Title: Re: Death
Post by: BenKain on March 10, 2013, 05:22:02 pm
Not casual... crazy. How am i supposed to start at all? I have literally no chance against the weakest encounters. The online version is a good idea, losing evrything on death is a bad one.

The rest of us here did it, but if you find yourself in an especially difficult place, join #TheLastLight on the forrest.net server on the IRC
Title: Re: Death
Post by: FrankenStone on March 11, 2013, 11:33:34 pm
the badest thing is that most places where u can earn lot of caps are mostly full with pks and a if u wanna get a car , its the best thing , i ve died so many times there with caps in my han because of some stupid players ... but leran to play use sandboxie for dual logs , thats all what i can say ... to keep the risk low , sad but true alone in this game u wont get rich or anything else , so deal with it ... wasteland is harsh .

TheLastLight is a good place check them out
Title: Re: Death
Post by: -Max Payne- on March 11, 2013, 11:41:23 pm
At first, create a tent. Then hunt radscorpions or mantis to xp.Craft is a good way to start the game.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Rain on March 11, 2013, 11:55:32 pm
Also,build that encourage variety are doomed to be tremendous fail.You have to rationalize very single parameter to its best.Try to use search and insert stuff like -bg builds,pve fast shooter,thrower and check out some good idea to build your character in a way he can survive proficiently.Don-t think you can do it alone.You can't.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: TKs-KaBoom on March 12, 2013, 08:30:44 am
I can  ;D
Title: Re: Death
Post by: greenthumb on March 12, 2013, 08:45:14 am
sad but true alone in this game u wont get rich or anything else , so deal with it ... wasteland is harsh .
i disagree with this quote, actualy i have not seen rich player who would earned his wealth thanks to cooperation with frends... Yes he made it thanks to alts, but alone, dualoging, fastreloging, but mostly alone...

Full loot means that you are risking what you carry on you, its fair system, and there is crafting system which allows you to earn multiple various goods nearly in safe condition , just alting and bases on strategical spots...

Information will help you build up a lesser or greater empire. Just keep asking and do not rage after each death.

http://chat.forestnet.org/?channels=thelastlight
Title: Re: Death
Post by: FrankenStone on March 12, 2013, 04:49:43 pm
lol u know how craftingsystem is fucked up , farming is way more attractive also stealing is better then crafting stims or ammo rofl that means just more alts ... its just boring
Title: Re: Death
Post by: greenthumb on March 12, 2013, 08:53:37 pm
lol u know how craftingsystem is fucked up , farming is way more attractive also stealing is better then crafting stims or ammo rofl that means just more alts ... its just boring

Crafting is unfinished but almost balanced i would say. Stealing is alternative to crafting , way more effective alternative , but only for few goods. And yes it becomes boring if its repeated multi-multi-mutliple times. Thats why iam trying to become efficient as much as possible, so i spend minimum time doing activites wich have to be repeated. Alts are not wrong in meaning of various specialization, those are wrong only in meaning of abusing activites/events which are not customizable for this multi-alt natured game(its mostly PVP).
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Swiatowid on March 12, 2013, 09:13:27 pm
crafting is balanced ? o.O man to have 100 5m ap u need to go to mine get that all shit u need to craft take that all to advenced wb  & aftr 1.5 h u have some ammo & if u have luck u cane kill one player using a avenger. and on thef in 4 min u cane get ammo that be inowf to kill 3 platers so where is that balance between amount & timethat i need to invest.
to craft minigun or laser rifle u to need to spend alot of time to have it  not better is go & kill BH patrol & get few of them.
crafting need to be competitive whit stealing & farming only then u cane tell its blanced.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: greenthumb on March 12, 2013, 09:47:33 pm
crafting is balanced ? o.O man to have 100 5m ap u need to go to mine get that all shit u need to craft take that all to advenced wb  & aftr 1.5 h u have some ammo & if u have luck u cane kill one player using a avenger. and on thef in 4 min u cane get ammo that be inowf to kill 3 platers so where is that balance between amount & timethat i need to invest.
to craft minigun or laser rifle u to need to spend alot of time to have it  not better is go & kill BH patrol & get few of them.
crafting need to be competitive whit stealing & farming only then u cane tell its blanced.

To get 100 5mm ap (by crafting)you need 1HQ mineral and 2 HQ iron or,i use to gather 50-60 hq stuff per one mining trip(5-10 min), then i would craft 2000 5mm ap at once ! OFC i will not go forth and back to AWB with each mineral :/, if you do so iam realy sorry :( .

Stealing 5mm ap is just alternative , way more efficient but i doubt you know most efficient ways anyway. Somtimes not even 1000 5mm ap is not enough to kill player, so your explanations are quite irrelevant. Laser rifles or miniguns, doh those weapons are crap and i would be ashamed if anybody would find and kill me on my PVP alt wielding those. Yes you are particualry right, but i guess you never tried to craft MFC or 5mm AP and our attention to most important things vanishes.

sstims are only goods which stealing is significantly better, maybe there should be changed recipe.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Swiatowid on March 12, 2013, 09:55:24 pm
yes but that 2000 take 1-2h & u dont tell me u do this in 15 min
& to steal 2000 ammo i need max 15min & its not a aternativ its way to servive & not be a mine ape
Title: Re: Death
Post by: greenthumb on March 12, 2013, 09:57:50 pm
yes i do this in 15-20 minutes, i crafted yesterday 190180AP rockets in 21 minutes, mining included.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Orm Azzurro on March 12, 2013, 11:30:07 pm
I made tents, now it's a lot better. But still. I was standing in a town, got distracted for like a minute, and next when i looked i was dead. In a town damnit. For just standing.
I know wasteland is harsh, and i like that the online version is tougher, but there is a limit. Or should be. I play to enjoy my time, not to get killed just because. These dumbos don't see, that if they keep up with randomly killing beginners (getting nothing valuable really), just make them leave.
Well. You can keep up this "wasteland is harsh" stuff and tuck your head in wasteland sand, but you will never get many players.

The rest of us here did it, but if you find yourself in an especially difficult place, join #TheLastLight on the forrest.net server on the IRC

All right, i will try. I give the game another (third? fourth.) chance. And only because i love the offline version.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Rain on March 12, 2013, 11:39:25 pm
I made tents, now it's a lot better. But still. I was standing in a town, got distracted for like a minute, and next when i looked i was dead. In a town damnit. For just standing.
I know wasteland is harsh, and i like that the online version is tougher, but there is a limit. Or should be. I play to enjoy my time, not to get killed just because. These dumbos don't see, that if they keep up with randomly killing beginners (getting nothing valuable really), just make them leave.
Well. You can keep up this "wasteland is harsh" stuff and tuck your head in wasteland sand, but you will never get many players.

All right, i will try. I give the game another (third? fourth.) chance. And only because i love the offline version.
.  Wasteland is for the best,show your self and other people you can do it,and you are not a pussy.If you become a veteran you will realize that all other games are pitiful and easy compared to this one.Then you will try to ragequit many times,never being able to do it.That day when you realize you just can t quit,that s your first real day in the wasteland.Never give up boy!If you need help,just ask the Rain idler in ncr.


Title: Re: Death
Post by: Swiatowid on March 13, 2013, 12:47:03 am
Holy words rain holy word !!! i remember my fist days nah even monts i was so rage on guys that killing me & now i play whit them almost 2.5 yer hahaha
Any bluesuit cant feal is safe even a litle bit !
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Orm Azzurro on March 13, 2013, 09:19:51 pm
.  Wasteland is for the best,show your self and other people you can do it,and you are not a pussy.If you become a veteran you will realize that all other games are pitiful and easy compared to this one.Then you will try to ragequit many times,never being able to do it.That day when you realize you just can t quit,that s your first real day in the wasteland.Never give up boy!If you need help,just ask the Rain idler in ncr.
Hmm that sounds good. So i shouldn't be a pussy with so many dicks around. :D