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Title: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: RJ on April 29, 2010, 05:39:34 pm
Main point of this idea is to give other players more informations about your action. Right now everything that is about manipulaiting in inventory (like drinking nuca-cola, using jet, eating fruit or arming bomb) is presented as ONE animation. This can be solved in three ways:

1.  You get floating text about your head that exists for adjustable ammount of time (just like with damage indicator) with possibility to turn it on/off.

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6778/actionsn.jpg)
(of course color could be diffrent, this example was done in-game by using .E)


2. You got message in console what someone is doing with possibility to turn it on/off.

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2474/consoled.jpg)
(Thanks for screenshot - Wire)


3.. Mix previous points. (1. and 2.) with possibility to turn on/off each one of them.

Note: in orginal Fallout there was console information about what each of NPC is doing (if he is using psycho or jet or whatever else) also in New Reno you could see message above prostitute head "using jet".

All of those options should be available to be turned on or off.

This way you no longer will have to find out if someone is arming bomb or just changing something in his inventory. It's wrong if you have no idea what other player is doing and it's quite big issue with this game. Entire system could be based on perception (the higher PE from higher distance you know what other player is doing) but it would be great also if it wouldn't be. Decision is up to devs.

Please. Make sure you voted in a poll above. Also if you don't like this idea, please, write why.
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Izual on April 29, 2010, 05:43:27 pm
As I said in the (very) old topic of this suggestion, this would be great (I voted for way 1) ; however maybe that with 3D era we'll have different animations ?
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Surf on April 29, 2010, 05:45:01 pm
I totally support it and voted for option 3. :)

I don't know if the engine supports it, though.
But it would be really a great enhancment.
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Wire on April 29, 2010, 05:46:43 pm
Version 3, because theres more options to choose.
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: vedaras on April 29, 2010, 05:47:08 pm
as i remember we had messages like these in f2 and i also want them in here :>
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: DrapiChrust on April 29, 2010, 05:47:50 pm
A small little thingy that can make world a bit better 8) Very much for it

1 and 3, a little more for 1
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Quentin Lang on April 29, 2010, 06:16:39 pm
Voted for 1 but 3, of course, is also fine. Its just that the textbox usually gets spammed more than enough and more text down there aint that required.
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Sius on April 29, 2010, 06:26:37 pm
This could lead to creation of new "class". Something like a spy or such. With high sneak skill he could mask his actions as something else like "setting up a trap" into "drinking nuca cola"... definitely +1.
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: kraskish on April 29, 2010, 06:41:07 pm
Voted for 1 but 3, of course, is also fine. Its just that the textbox usually gets spammed more than enough and more text down there aint that required.

Definitely agree with Quentin. On peak hours in NCR you wouldnt see it anyway xD
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Sius on April 29, 2010, 06:47:31 pm
Well textbox need some serious boost anyway. Keeping everything in one small window can't make it into the final game version. Some tags for combat messages, chat filters etc are more than needed here.
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Arry on April 29, 2010, 07:09:38 pm
+1 It's a very good idea :)
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Wire on April 29, 2010, 08:16:17 pm
Quote
. Some tags for combat messages, chat filters etc are more than needed here.
theres already filter for chat and combat messages.

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1827/filterandetc.jpg)
1st makes chat window bigger
2nd turns off combat messages
3rd turns off all caht messages (/w /o /e etc)
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Rejfyl on April 29, 2010, 10:19:35 pm
As i said in previous topic, i like this idea :)
+1
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Gatling on April 30, 2010, 12:19:29 am
Definitely like, though how it's done might be left ultimately to the engine and what it'll agree too.  Let's hope the 3D era opens new doors.
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: DrapiChrust on May 02, 2010, 05:15:29 pm
Only the 'abovehead' message should be in the different colour than the standard '.e' text, so that one couldn't mislead people by arming a bomb and saying '.e uses stimpack'
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: corosive on May 02, 2010, 09:25:45 pm
im voting for it in general... how the heck does this engine work anyways? its not a f2 clone is it ? it sounds like a completely new and unique system that just LOOKs like fallout2 that would prob answer y some of the basic things from f2 arent in fonline like the using jet thing in the chat window or this time out for barter
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Surf on May 02, 2010, 11:35:46 pm
Jep, it's a new engine made from scratch. The FO2 content is just added. With enough afford and manpower it's also possible to make a whole new game with it. ;)
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Gargols on May 04, 2010, 01:20:03 pm
I probably go with 3 because I actually just like the first Idea, however, being able to TURN it OFF and ON (In seperate Ways) is just better.
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Kharaam on May 04, 2010, 01:53:11 pm
+1 for the number 3. Bombers still would arm bombs before going into NCR...
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: gordulan on May 04, 2010, 02:47:43 pm
wouldn't they be able to arm a bomb and have a uses  stimpack ready just to disguise the thingy, or maybe even asdasdasaasasadasad? Because the latest chat message overwrites the text above the charachter, it was like that with me and thief and blocker tags prewipe, except i screamed,: "you suck", "you all suck", or "this game sucks", almost always managed to get out of the area without being kashizzled by a bored lvl21 anti-pk
Title: Re: I spy with my little eye... what others are doing!
Post by: Wipe on December 11, 2011, 09:23:45 am
Implemented, configurable via FOnline2238.cfg (see wiki page (http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/2238#VerboseActionHead)). No changes in GUI - yet.