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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: Frosti on January 02, 2010, 09:00:56 am
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Anyone know if this weapon was nerfed? In my opinion it do way too low demage then it suppose to do.
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Considering the range that the player has to be at with the enemy is quite low, this Big Gun should have been the least nerfed out of all, imo. I don't know if they have/have not nerfed it though.
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I think that they should actually increase the parameters (up the damage) if they want to see it used for anything other than bluesuit-murdering.
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Well, 10mm pistol isnt as strong as assault rifle and laser pistol is not as strong as plasma rifle. Maybe it could be tweaked a little, add some damage, but not every big gun have to be devastating weapon.
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Flamer is easy to create. One can say, it's the "start weapon for big gunners". The improved flamer with advanced flamer fuel should be a lot better.
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Flamer is easy to create. One can say, it's the "start weapon for big gunners". The improved flamer with advanced flamer fuel should be a lot better.
+1 for the last sentence, but 10 metal parts for crafting the basic flamer is a bit too much imo. It means 20 Iron, and for those who haven't a faction outpost, and can't carry a lot of stuff, it's dangerous because of the obligation to go in a town for the workbench, then go back to one's tent for taking new Irons, then go again to the town, etc. Maybe that will be good if the flamer costs less metal parts, or if it gives more XP.
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So by words of Lexx I conclude that normal flamer was nerfed but Improved Flamer with Improved Fuel works as intended.
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Considering how useless the flamer was it seems pointless to nerf it. You can't use it in pvp because of the low range, it's expensive to make, the fuel is one of the most complicated ammo types to produce and you're basically a melee character so you take a lot of damage. That and it has one of the slowest animations so real time isn't a good option.
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Flamer was not useless before. In OBT2 it was even one of the most used weapons, because it could even crit. Power Armors (which was a must-have). But I personally agree, that it could be a little bit stronger now.
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because it could even crit
So now my Flamer do 15-30 dmg and CANT crit :'( oh devs whaaaaat you have dooooooooneeeeeee
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Im of the opinion that because of the low range of the weapon it should be a bit stronger. maybe only a little bit on the normal plamer, as you said bg beginner gun, but defiently improved flamer should be unerfed
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Yeah, it'd be nice to see people using flamers. As a more general note, the it would be worth working out what guns nobody bothers with and start tweaking accordingly.
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it'd be cool to see or think up a pyro build though the flamer is fairly easy to make
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So now my Flamer do 15-30 dmg and CANT crit :'( oh devs whaaaaat you have dooooooooneeeeeee
I think it can crit. I just did something as 49 damage critical to Regulator.
And yes, I think for the range the damage should be a little better. But it is good starting weapon and as long as you have a stable income of fruit, the ammo is no problem (ofc, faction base or at least tent is a must).
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Flamers can still crit, they just cant be aimed.
Improved Flamer doesn't need to be "unnerfed" because it was never nerfed to begin with ... its still pretty great.
The normal flamer could indeed do with a little nudge upwards for its power, even for the starter weapon for big guns its a bit of a pea shooter.
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Flamer damage right now is very low. It does 30-50 damage and 50-80 if critical. People with 200+ hp go with miniguns which deal 200~500 dmg. So flamer is useless.
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flamer is not a killer . never was , its just good here and there coz it doesnt spreed bullets like minigun so it can hit multiple targets in line for its said damage... if i rememebr right it was good vs floaters while minigun wasnt ><
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Flamer was a one-hit kill weapon some time ago. It was even able to eat power armors.
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The problem is there is no improved flamer or mark II fuel. Why they require lvl 3 big guns smith is a mistery for me. It's like putting it on par with avenger and LSW, nuts. Standard version is imo to weak right now, even in encouters.
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Standard version would be just a little bit too weak (maybe 10/15 more damage should be better) if we could have a really powerfull MKII flamer. The standard is for the beginners so not too strong but the second should be high powerfull has LSW etc... But with is low range, even more damage.
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the flamer is a start up wepon:it can be made whit no profesion or tools requirement,i think is has a good quality-matherials balance
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flamers are awesome for lvling:D cheap and fun:) yee
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Exactly, I remember me leveling in Pre-wipe, Man, that was easy! Now, I have gone to Small guns due to their big range and still bursting fun.