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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Closed suggestions => Topic started by: corosive on April 21, 2010, 02:35:03 am
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I just tried using a BB Gun as a "cost effective" weapon... but I just realized that its pretty crappy... with 4 ap cost, cheap ammo and an average damage of 1-2 hp on raiders it's pretty much garbage. My fists can do way better. So I suggest lowering the ap cost of BB Guns (and implementing the old ideas of the Red Ryder BB Gun) to something productive like 2 per shot. 3 per Aimed Shot, 3 to reload (your pouring at most 100 bb's into a canister) this would make the very cheap BB guns worth something to someone... When I go mining I want a cheap ranged weapon to bring with me along with my sledge, the BB gun seemed like the perfect weapon until I used it and found out that I might as well just use my own fists or the sledge itself...
so thats it! Lower the ap cost of BB guns to make them a very cost effective ranged weapon or lets be able to craft Pipe Rifles! If this has already been said well im sorry! :p but it should have been implemented by now! lol we need a use for bb guns seriously....
oh and btw completly off topic but Police Batons (Clubs) should inflict an extra 5% chance off knockdown or knockout...
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instakills?
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Yeah 3 ap (BRoF taken) eyeshot would be fckin nice.
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I agree, the str requirement should also be 1 because it has no recoil, it's a spring firing mechanism meant for small children. As for insta kills, yeah that would be the only reason to seriously use this weapon but even at a faster shot rate it's still a 13% max chance and every hit that isnt an instalkill will do nothing so it's not a serious pvp weapon. Also it has pretty low range for a rifle.
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how can you possibly get an instant kill with a BB Gun ? All you have to do is make to so you can't get an instant kill with a BB Gun... simple...
I would just like to fire it 4 times in a round and each shot do about 1-2 everytime... just set a max damage. But the ability to shoot someone in the eye and cripple their eye is realistic but if they are covered in armour its going to be a tough shot.
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I think it would be better to make the crit to eye a lot lower and give snipers better chances for hitting other limbs so it acts less like a railgun from quake
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Leave the AP cost as it is, but make the damage 5-8 instead of 1-2. This would make the BBgun a tempting alternative to 10mm pistol for newbs because 10mm ammo is hard to make.
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i would prefer 7-8 damage, maybe even 6-9.
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Leave the AP cost as it is, but make the damage 5-8 instead of 1-2. This would make the BBgun a tempting alternative to 10mm pistol for newbs because 10mm ammo is hard to make.
It's a bb gun, the real life equivalent you'd be hard pressed to kill a small bird at ten feet.
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It's a bb gun, the real life equivalent you'd be hard pressed to kill a small bird at ten feet.
I don't know what BB guns you've been using, but my cheap run-of-the-mill pistol can shatter bottles from 10 metres. A reasonably well made rifle can easily go right through a small animal from 10-15 metres. With pellets you'd probably kill any small bird from 20 metres if you can hit it.
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I don't know what BB guns you've been using, but my cheap run-of-the-mill pistol can shatter bottles from 10 metres. A reasonably well made rifle can easily go right through a small animal from 10-15 metres. With pellets you'd probably kill any small bird from 20 metres if you can hit it.
You're forgetting how old and shitty the red ryder bb gun is, it's a toy.
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You're forgetting how old and shitty the red ryder bb gun is, it's a toy.
In my imagination it's a medium-class bb gun used for sports shooting. Also, it's crafted from wood and junk, my char can add a bit of oomph to it :p
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just lower the ap cost by 1 lol forget damage we need a cost effective gun we can shoot 50 times for cheap that doesnt break often but a damage of 1-5 would be good against rats and ants...
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Those are not casual rats - those are biggest, most badasses rats taht survived fallout - you need at last 10 mm bullet for them. BB gun is good to troll bluesuits tho.
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perhaps keep the damage low, cant kill anyone, but allow for the normal blinding by eye crit thing, with a normal one having average accuracy and the LE having high accuracy, so its expensive, non-lethal (practically) and can blind.
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perhaps keep the damage low, cant kill anyone, but allow for the normal blinding by eye crit thing, with a normal one having average accuracy and the LE having high accuracy, so its expensive, non-lethal (practically) and can blind.
Absolutly not!
It was tehre before - result - bluesuits with BB gun cripled and blinded metal armor guys with miniguns and then were chasing them and on end bluesuits killed crippled metal armored guys with miniguns. And bluesuits were generally trolling with BB gun - by shooting in eyes and crippling.
So no no way BB gun can be powrfull couse its troll gun.
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Anyone who dies to a bb gun isn't getting trolled, that's not even a term you can apply to that situation. If you die when you have a better gun with more range that's just sad.
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but its kinda true. if you could shoot a soldier in the eye with a BB gun, you could probably then run up and kill his ass, with your fists rather than the gun.
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Absolutly not!
It was tehre before - result - bluesuits with BB gun cripled and blinded metal armor guys with miniguns and then were chasing them and on end bluesuits killed crippled metal armored guys with miniguns. And bluesuits were generally trolling with BB gun - by shooting in eyes and crippling.
So no no way BB gun can be powrfull couse its troll gun.
you cant fire blindly with a mini gun and waste every thing around you along with the BB gunners?
Leave the AP cost as it is, but make the damage 5-8 instead of 1-2. This would make the BBgun a tempting alternative to 10mm pistol for newbs because 10mm ammo is hard to make.
i fail to see the joke there.
and to who ever said that they needed a cheap weapon for self defence while mining.. buy a .44 of some kind and have a clip or two.. thats all you'll need unless you want to shoot PKers along the way.
but its kinda true. if you could shoot a soldier in the eye with a BB gun, you could probably then run up and kill his ass, with your fists rather than the gun.
oh, and i'd like to see that, guy in combat armor dying to a blue suit with a BB gun and his sharp finger nails..
cheers all.
-Ulrek-
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Ulrek I bet you never saw bluesuit commando with BB guns in action didynt you?
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bb guns need a practical perpose tho
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bb guns need a practical perpose tho
Theres plenty of rats in the wasteland...
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bb guns need a practical perpose tho
You can train battling with those with your freinds in your base. Tadah - here is practical purpose of BB gun.
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you cant get xp that way how is that training ? and 1-2 damage at 4 ap is crap for killing rats your better off using your KICK
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Ulrek I bet you never saw bluesuit commando with BB guns in action didynt you?
its minigun vs tiny gun.
and "bluesuits" unless i am mistaken means unarmored people, vs minigunners.
unless they have insanly high health than they'll only be able to take a few bursts at that.
you cant get xp that way how is that training ? and 1-2 damage at 4 ap is crap for killing rats your better off using your KICK
better yet by a crappy mauser.
You can train battling with those with your freinds in your base. Tadah - here is practical purpose of BB gun.
i agree, thats probally all the BB gun should be useful for.
you cant get xp that way how is that training ? and 1-2 damage at 4 ap is crap for killing rats your better off using your KICK
he meant shooting your friends at your faction base.
cheers.
-Ulrek-
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you can gain xp fighting your friends in your depot ? ???
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you can gain xp fighting your friends in your depot ? ???
try it.
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The weapon is more or less a joke/rp gadget, it shouldn't be taken too seriously. Lowering AP cost is pointless. It'd be nice to have a LE BB gun tho.
Btw - air rifles are not all toys people make them out to be, they were used in warfare (not extensively because of production costs) and are being used for hunting and pest control. And yeah, hitting a man in the eye even with a 13J "toy" would probably kill him and surely blind him.
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The red rider can barely break skin, blinding makes sense but not much else.
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a cop here in NZ got killed with an air rifle.
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for a while i heared they made a real "minigun" airsoft gun, would blow holes in you if you got shot with it under 6 feet or so i think it said, or was it 12.. can remember, but basicly a point blank shot with the thing would go right through you, saw a guy using one in a youtube video of a little BB gun war some people had in scotland i think it was.
cheers.
-Ulrek-
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corosive whats with this obsession about exp? I meant you can simulate PvP fight with this BB gun to practice clicking on moving targets etc.
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corosive whats with this obsession about exp? I meant you can simulate PvP fight with this BB gun to practice clicking on moving targets etc.
i get off on it okay?! geez...xp is great tho im not going to craft bb's to waste for no reason caps run the world and the more you have the more shit you get... anyhow they just need a practical purpose and Rp crap isn't a good enough excuse any idiot can get drunk and pretend.... if i wanted to play a game and pretend id be fucking autistic but if they arent going to be worth using ditch em or change em if the item has no use then your wasting valuable item space and cant see the potential of the item... they can atleast replace it with (or add) the pipe rifle... thats pretty much everything the bb gun should of been if it used 10mm... but seriously tho devs the bb gun needs a purpose aside being used as currentcy
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BB gun is way better than the pipe rifle.