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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Closed suggestions => Topic started by: maorys on April 14, 2010, 01:07:38 am
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I would like to see STEN gun in FOnline, he could be avialable on lvl2 gunsmith,mats maybe equal to smg, and ammo 9mm ball,that wil make 9mm ammo usefull.
BTW that was easy to make and reliable sub mashine gun and implementing it in game probably would not be a big problem(thats what I am thinking) he was in fallout tactics and I sen it in f2 mod Vintage weapons.
also adding katana to crafting table would be nice,requirements for example 150% meele skil,5 good mp,3 metal parts, 1 wood,1 fire geckon pelt,5 fibers.
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and a sword sprite set
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Well there is this big change to 3d coming so I guess that modeling these weapons should not be a problem. But I guess the devs would like to keep the tools of destruiction as close to original f2 and f1 as it is possible. I do like the idea of implementing Sten into this post-apocalyptia. It was one of the most easy to make weapons. And just as reliable as AK-47.
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No need new weapons in game. We dont have balanced original weapons, so no need.
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my point is sten is easier to make than for example assult rifle(in real life i mean) and it was in fallout tactics,and vintage weapons mod for fallout2, and bringing him to FOnline would make some use for 9mm ammo.
btw katana (or even wakizashi which was in original fallout2) would balance meele weapons,there is no much to craft in this area.And I am not saying it would be easy to craft 150 meele thats prety high requirements
I know thats wishfull thinking,but thats only a SUGESTION so maybe somebody from devs would consider that, if not now maybe later onbut game would not lose its balance from addnig 2 more weapons,or maybe some weapons could be crafted after completing quest and obtaining plans,something like in f3
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omg omg katana should do 50-100 damage and penetrate armor due to its superior nipponese craftsmanship omg omg
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please, don't tell me you're serious, a broadsword would take down a katana any day when in the middle ages, the folding process that the smiths used was used to mainly strengthen the weapon to acceptable terms due to the crappy materials they had just so that the samurai would have a reasonably sturdy sword, and that's why europe kicks ass.
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Thats oe big lie.
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prove me wrong, simple as that, aside from that a knight would be able to kill off a samurai because of the superior armour they own, not to mention the shield, which can be used as a weapon as well as protection from the yumi (japanese longbow)
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Yeah, there is a lot of "magic" around katanas due it's popularity in our subculture.
But that don't mean, that they were only sharp stick. There was different technique in creating swords, giving them more power. And what I heard, that unquality iron ore is one of urban myths and it's not so correct.
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Fuckyes, the postapocalyptic katana would balance the PA out, since it's made from adamantium, ROFL.
But actually, by editing sledgehammer frames, you could get decent sword animations.
But fat chances with that - 2238 doesn't need frame artists anymore, am i right?
Man, i just can't wait for the Cvet's SDK.
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Yeah, there is a lot of "magic" around katanas due it's popularity in our subculture.
But that don't mean, that they were only sharp stick. There was different technique in creating swords, giving them more power. And what I heard, that unquality iron ore is one of urban myths and it's not so correct.
please tell us more, expert on katanas
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In b4 katana shitstorm.
You can't add new weapons, because devs want 2238 be as falloutish as possible. And that also means no robot crafting, no cyborgs, no asian culture references if they don't like it. Because it's their game, they even pay money for it and they won't comply to requests of sole people, (moreso if the request don't get effusive DO WANT of users) but of those of the community as the developers see fit in.
That's my humble opinion.
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i never used word I WANT in my SUGESTION.....
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DO WANT means massive support of the idea by users. Internet slang.
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In b4 katana shitstorm.
You can't add new weapons, because devs want 2238 be as falloutish as possible. And that also means no robot crafting, no cyborgs, no asian culture references if they don't like it. Because it's their game, they even pay money for it and they won't comply to requests of sole people, (moreso if the request don't get effusive DO WANT of users) but of those of the community as the developers see fit in.
That's my humble opinion.
I agree with you, but wasn't there a wakizashi blade or some sort in FO2? ;D
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I agree with you, but wasn't there a wakizashi blade or some sort in FO2? ;D
mhm and well... a wakizashi is used in pairs with either a katana or a tantō... soooo technically if you want to be fully realistic there should be a katana/tantō ingame that you use together with the wakizashi BUT this ain't a realistic game and I don't think that the devs give a rats ass about adding some new weapons so I can get an orgasm from asian culture in fallout, but to answer your question: yes there was a wakizashi in fallout.
And I have no doubt that there will be new weapons in the future after the 3d is fully implemented and the old weapons have been tweaked a bit more.
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I agree with you, but wasn't there a wakizashi blade or some sort in FO2? ;D
Yeah, there was a Wakizashi, in Reno i believe. I was referring to katana, though.
We shouldn't be fussy abouth Japanese stuff then. Bring in the Lancea Longini! ;D
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Yakuza in Fallout 2 had wakizashi
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prove me wrong, simple as that, aside from that a knight would be able to kill off a samurai because of the superior armour they own, not to mention the shield, which can be used as a weapon as well as protection from the yumi (japanese longbow)
lol european warfare was a guy in a tin can flailing around with a metal rod, the japanese would have destroyed them. Bamboo and steel is way more effective armour since you can move in it.
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uh the sten gun is pretty much the grease gun isn't it ? its like that ww2 german gun isnt it ? and the katana thing should just be the ability to craft yakuza blades.... id say bring in the weapons from fallout tactics if anything man they looked the same in the interface didnt they? ....
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Katana in the game? Ehh that doesn't sound realistic because it takes quite some work to make such a sword and I don't think that the people after a post apocalyptic war would still have the knowledge to make it. Not to speak about the fact that its in America and lets be honest how many Americans even now know how to properly make a Katana...
Now offtopic: About Samurai's vs European warriors, look at it from this side the reason why Europeans were so heavily armored was because they moved in formations and acted as almost indestructible walls. Trust me those Samurais would not come close to killing a Spartan Phalanx or Roman testudo formation. Against those arrows didn't work and you had to come close to fight them. And a Spartan spear is always longer then a samurai sword, and I seriously doubt those light weight armors would hold a spear penetration.
Plus on a side node by the time Katana was available Europeans already had basic handguns and canons. And if we look at the overall military efficiency the largest empires were always of European origin. Be it in the pre-christian era, middle ages or even gunpowder era.
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offtopic Bah, I'll beat you all by bringing in the mongolian riders! Their arrows would make shishkebab out of both the samurais and the european heavily armored troops.
stengun
(http://warrelics.eu/forum/military_photos/firearms-ordnance/33942d1239664199t-sten-gun-mk1-mk1sten2.jpg)
grease gun
(http://www.defendingthetruth.com/members/tadpole256-albums-interesting-picture496-famous-grease-gun.jpg)
BUT I say as corosive, bring in weapons from tactics (yes i enjoyed FoT very much, poor story but the gameplay was good, just sad it was so linear)
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nice sten you can make one of those on your kitchen table,and sten was british,was produced in underground factories acros all europe durning ww2.
Crafting long blade is certainly more dificult than making plasma rifle,or minigun so i am starting to build one of those(i mean plasma rifle:)
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Well, In my opinion you can forget about katana. We have already Wakizashi Blade in the game which can be used as a sword you described. Just it is not implemented.
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ok forget about stupid idea with japaneese swords. so how do you get wakizashi if is not implemented???? ???
what about sten or more guns? any chance for that
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omg omg katana should do 50-100 damage and penetrate armor due to its superior nipponese craftsmanship omg omg
SAMURAI VS KNIGHT SAMURAI VS KNIGHT SAMURAI VS KNIGHT SAMURAI VS KNIGHT
*takes a bow*
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technically if ur guna add a new gun to fallout based on ww2 u might as well just add every single gun in the world and just assume they survived the blast...
fallout is uh like 50's pulp fiction iisnt it ? the bombs fell in the 30's or 50's destroying everything so all the tech was based off the old school 30-50's shit and watever they could discover with that techology 1000 years later ... so ww2 didn't rly happen as we think it did .... sooooooo would the sten gun exist? would it be fallout to add ww2 guns? (btw tommy gun is like end of ww1 gun) it mite be fallout to add ww1 guns and crazy hand made guns ala metro lol ... but errr big big question...
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As Hololasima said, old weapons need to be balanced (And there's so much to do in balancing weapons already) before implementing new ones. This is really not a priority right now.
And for the katana, it's simply not possible right now, for the same reasons - there are already tons of useless melee weapons - and also that there's no sprite that fits it yet.
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