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Title: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Pandemon on April 04, 2010, 04:20:38 pm
How to get these things?
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: JovankaB on April 04, 2010, 04:54:56 pm
In unguarded mines.
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Public_Mines
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Pandemon on April 04, 2010, 06:20:15 pm
Is there any other place (not mine) to dig this stones? Atm. every of this city is controled by a gang which is shotting me out.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: JovankaB on April 04, 2010, 06:20:46 pm
That's the point of HQ ore - they are harder to get. You can wait until some nicer gang will take the control, you can try to sneak into the mine, or try to buy it.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Pandemon on April 04, 2010, 06:23:55 pm
So I think it sucks. Atm. nobody is able to dig this stones and this f**cking russians are not selling them. Great idea devs!
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: maszrum on April 04, 2010, 06:34:49 pm
ok we (rogues) are controling all mines , you can feel free and safe in that places, especialy in bh
but there is one problem - protection cost 50% of your digged minerals
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: JovankaB on April 04, 2010, 06:49:02 pm
See how simple is that Pandemon? If you are smart and can count, both of you will profit - lone miners and people who control the mines.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Raegann on April 04, 2010, 07:02:07 pm
ok we (rogues) are controling all mines , you can feel free and safe in that places, especialy in bh
but there is one problem - protection cost 50% of your digged minerals
You make deal ingame, so you won't shoot on sight or are we supposed to contact you somehow (please post details here or by PM) before we enter? :)
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: maszrum on April 04, 2010, 07:14:16 pm
well.. rogues are very busy people, by steal, rob, rape and killing people
but there is always one of rogue representatives near brokenhills/redding mine - akazuki, africa, dritt, linnea, walt disney

im sure they will care of you , and we will be in buissnes :)

btw, we thinking about some 1-3day abonament/ticket - on holodisks
this new mining system is really hard work !
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Raegann on April 04, 2010, 07:16:22 pm
well.. rogues are very busy people, by steal, rob, rape and killing people
but there is always one of rogue representatives near brokenhills/redding mine - akazuki, africa, dritt, linnea, walt disney

im sure they will care of you , and we will be in buissnes :)
Ok, thanks a lot, I hope I will make it to them alive. ;) Good luck, with raping especially.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Cheesus Krighst on April 05, 2010, 07:01:24 am
God damn russians are using Broken Hills and gecko mines as a toll hub or pk and loot center, if your lucky enough to get to the mines, you either get shot looted or if your extremely lucky, you get your ores and get tolled by the russian holding the mines. Then you walk out and get killed by another russian then looted. Is there a area in the MAIN MAP that we can mine for high quality stuff because they have successfully turned the unguarded mines into player slave mines, using the low leveled players or unarmed as slaves to get the ores for them.

Along with the player factions not doing their job on guarding their towns and mines either....
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: VongJin on April 05, 2010, 07:13:08 am
If u want to dug in our mines u need to agree with our rules and  if u don't, i wish u good luck in searching  ore somewhere else.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Pancake on April 05, 2010, 07:23:20 am
well.. rogues are very busy people, by steal, rob, rape and killing people
but there is always one of rogue representatives near brokenhills/redding mine - akazuki, africa, dritt, linnea, walt disney

im sure they will care of you , and we will be in buissnes :)

btw, we thinking about some 1-3day abonament/ticket - on holodisks
this new mining system is really hard work !

I am fucking tired of being killed by Akazuki.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: VongJin on April 05, 2010, 07:37:52 am
well if u want to dug ore do not enter in main, enter residental and go to mine.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Pandemon on April 05, 2010, 08:42:09 am
Whatta fuck?
I just digged in Broken Hills mine and there came 3 guys with bazooka and I have been killed. They stole everything from my brahmin and killed it.
Akazuki, I want recompensate for my brahmin.... You said you protect it wtf...
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: blahblah on April 05, 2010, 11:17:42 am
I am fucking tired of being killed by Akazuki.
Go to Gecko mine. It's empty.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Pancake on April 05, 2010, 11:40:50 am
Whatta fuck?
I just digged in Broken Hills mine and there came 3 guys with bazooka and I have been killed. They stole everything from my brahmin and killed it.
Akazuki, I want recompensate for my brahmin.... You said you protect it wtf...

Don't worry about it. They're douchebags, it's their thang.

Go to Gecko mine. It's empty.

Well, I don't go to Broken Hills just for the purpose of mining. The merchant there has a great amount of caps most of the time. I don't even cause trouble when I go there. All I do is run for the merchant for a really quick 20 second talk, and bam, a group of dicks kill me.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Wichura on April 05, 2010, 11:49:08 am
Go to Gecko mine. It's empty.
+1

Or wait until "controllers" will go sleep. They have to sleep sometimes, I hope :>
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Pancake on April 05, 2010, 11:51:19 am
+1

Or wait until "controllers" will go sleep. They have to sleep sometimes, I hope :>

Yeah, I noticed they're all Russian/Europeans, so I go on when it's like, 12 A.M. for them. It totally works.

But, I mean like, god damn. This is getting so frustrating. As soon as I enter Broken Hills, I get laser-rifled and my metal parts are taken away in a zip. (Happened to me 3 minutes ago.)
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: virus341 on April 05, 2010, 12:04:53 pm
Yeah, I noticed they're all Russian/Europeans, so I go on when it's like, 12 A.M. for them. It totally works.

But, I mean like, god damn. This is getting so frustrating. As soon as I enter Broken Hills, I get laser-rifled and my metal parts are taken away in a zip. (Happened to me 3 minutes ago.)
You should just talk to them first. ATM they take 25% of res you have, thats fair enough, coz of the distance between BH and NCR, its pretty easy to get some ore or minerals fast.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Pandemon on April 05, 2010, 12:12:15 pm
25% is low indeed. But notice that they don't protect you, maybe they are able to kill ~10lvl with little gun. But when came 3 guys with bazooka and sniper rifles they all were dead (in which I and my brahmin). So I am still on vote to make guarded HQ mines.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: virus341 on April 05, 2010, 12:17:19 pm
25% is low indeed. But notice that they don't protect you, maybe they are able to kill ~10lvl with little gun. But when came 3 guys with bazooka and sniper rifles they all were dead (in which I and my brahmin). So I am still on vote to make guarded HQ mines.
I suggest you not to try farming ore with brahmin untill you have someone to watch your back. And yes, they wont protect you against bigger gangs, but some random bastards with smg and 30 bullets wont kill you. Guarded HQ mines are lame. (and yes, I am the one who dig, not the one who gang miners, but still guarded mines would kill all fun)
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: blahblah on April 05, 2010, 05:14:08 pm
Well, I don't go to Broken Hills just for the purpose of mining. The merchant there has a great amount of caps most of the time. I don't even cause trouble when I go there. All I do is run for the merchant for a really quick 20 second talk, and bam, a group of dicks kill me.

Guess why the merchant has a lot of caps? Because nobody trades with him because they die.
Why, WHY, do you keep going there? They kill you every time, get a laugh, and get your items. A normal person would just say "fuck that place" and not return.
That's why I don't go to NCR anymore. Hub is so much better. And the same with Gecko mine.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: JustGreat on April 05, 2010, 06:08:08 pm
The problem is there are not enough PKers in unguarded mines, you should see the alt fest going on when the Europeans are sleeping. The way I see it, the PKers prevent people from using alts to gather HQ materials. Also if you are not willing to defend yourselves what is the point of trying to acquire HQ materials? The result would be the same if you did have good gear or not.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: VongJin on April 05, 2010, 07:16:15 pm
Whatta fuck?
I just digged in Broken Hills mine and there came 3 guys with bazooka and I have been killed. They stole everything from my brahmin and killed it.
Akazuki, I want recompensate for my brahmin.... You said you protect it wtf...

we can't protect u when we are not in BH...
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: VongJin on April 05, 2010, 07:30:17 pm
25% is low indeed. But notice that they don't protect you, maybe they are able to kill ~10lvl with little gun. But when came 3 guys with bazooka and sniper rifles they all were dead (in which I and my brahmin). So I am still on vote to make guarded HQ mines.

well yes shit happens sometimes, but most of the time mine is safe. U just got bad luck.


and if u don't like to have business with us we can just shoot u on sight, without any conversations.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: VongJin on April 05, 2010, 08:06:05 pm
and 1 more rule: we have rights to kill every1 on sight in main street so if u going to BH for mining u better enter in residental or south side, so stop complaining about *i got killed in general store* or something
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Pandemon on April 05, 2010, 08:08:42 pm
I am complaining about that you can't protect anyone in mine if there is only one guard with 2 dicksucking mercs. Especially when this guard is Akuzaki with laser/plasma pistol... I suppose that she was there when came 3 guys with bazooka but she died in first shot.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: VongJin on April 05, 2010, 08:19:58 pm
I am complaining about that you can't protect anyone in mine if there is only one guard with 2 dicksucking mercs. Especially when this guard is Akuzaki with laser/plasma pistol... I suppose that she was there when came 3 guys with bazooka but she died in first shot.

as i said before: shit happens.

too many stupid complains.... maybe we should get back to old style of work in wich u will be killed near mine after u dug some ore... hmmm.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Pandemon on April 05, 2010, 08:24:32 pm
Then you will lose a lot of stones ;)
But it's your decision, I can always make some alts to dig there and you wont know my names so you will have to close it for everyone which wont you do
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Cheesus Krighst on April 05, 2010, 10:15:52 pm
Heres an idea, how about nobody goes to the Broken Hills mines and see if they're stupid enough to stand in the mines for days waiting for a noob to come and work as their mining slave?
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: JustGreat on April 05, 2010, 10:22:56 pm
Heres an idea, how about nobody goes to the Broken Hills mines and see if they're stupid enough to stand in the mines for days waiting for a noob to come and work as their mining slave?

Vae victis ;p
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: virus341 on April 06, 2010, 03:05:01 am
Heres an idea, how about nobody goes to the Broken Hills mines and see if they're stupid enough to stand in the mines for days waiting for a noob to come and work as their mining slave?
Would not work. Too many players for such an industrial action, who dont read this topic, or just dont care about 25% rent.
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: VongJin on April 06, 2010, 06:10:15 am
Heres an idea, how about nobody goes to the Broken Hills mines and see if they're stupid enough to stand in the mines for days waiting for a noob to come and work as their mining slave?

heres an idea, how about to place a bunch of agressive mercs in every mine exept BH? people will be instakilled and forced to go BH...
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: lomzig on April 06, 2010, 06:55:36 am
man... whats the problem with bh?

you run in, dig 4 ores / 7 minerals - run out, if asked for bounty - wait a minute and give 1 or 2 pieces away for not getting killed.

when i got killed by an ass inside, i was emorage once, got a frickin shotgun and went back on him... good he was afk waiting for a timer... i shot him, then kicked him and shot again, and kicked again, despite that cartman sid that shooting guys in a dick is lame... twas good. and revenge is good. get couple ninja suicide burst guys and wtfpop all the campers (and some full miners for extra loot)
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Candy on April 06, 2010, 08:28:57 am
that is why you need a gang. I always go mine HQ stuff at redding with my gang armed, no need for bullshit "tax". If we see anybody holding a gun, we kill em. Most of the time we have control of the mine for about 10 minutes which is enough for every1 from my party to max out the gathering timer and go back to base and we can use em for the rest of the day. If all else fails i log on to my bomber pretending to be mining ore..
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Deathmann on April 06, 2010, 01:54:03 pm
Protected mines will just support farming resources.. so the price is still holding up and that's good :)
Title: Re: HQ Minerals and HQ Iron Ore
Post by: Enerccio on April 06, 2010, 02:14:09 pm
VongJin
I am noob miner so can you put all your rules (like where to enter the city of broken hills etc) and where to mine to get HQ ore and minerals, please