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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Closed suggestions => Topic started by: Hololasima on April 01, 2010, 08:50:42 pm
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It will be really helpfull if you will add craftable chests or small boxes to game. For example only one per player.
Simple wood chest is one of most simple thing on world so i think that its not too big problem have craftable chest in game.
If you dont have space in tent, dont want taking items from ground in all base, or you want have order in your things so chest is best solution for you !
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good idea Hololasima ;)
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Adding "something static" to the map will reload all map, so you'll lose all your mercs and items in a tent. As far as I know. Without reloading whole location it's impossible to add static objects. May be I'm wrong.
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I dont mean static object. I mean simple chest what you can pick from ground to inventory and put somewhere where you want and put item to it.
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I dont mean static object. I mean simple chest what you can pick from ground to inventory and put somewhere where you want and put item to it.
May be easier to add "backpacks" or "bags" or something? But it was suggested many times and very long time ago.
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Maybe. I mean chest to tents and bases. Nobody can say that it will be useless thing.
It will be very usefull and helpfull to everyone.
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Maybe. I mean chest to tents and bases. Nobody can say that it will be useless thing.
It will be very usefull and helpfull to everyone.
But tent is unlimited already. You can store all materials inside or outside tent, but not in crate. The same with armors. Crate has enough weight capacity already.
But again... chests/shelves/refrigerator/crate/pot = static object. I don't think it's possible to spawn it and don't reload location, so you'll need to get all your items from your tent location/crate somewhere, and only then "install" your chest or something. But again, I don't know on 100% if it so or not.
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It is possible with workbenches, so why not with other lootable objects ? Afaik, backpacks could be exploited by duplicating objects in it or sth like that
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backpacks could be exploited by duplicating objects in it or sth like that
Are you sure on 100%? Even if you do. Much changed since first beta test or something. I think this problem can be solved, even if it existed.
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Adding "something static" to the map will reload all map, so you'll lose all your mercs and items in a tent. As far as I know. Without reloading whole location it's impossible to add static objects. May be I'm wrong.
Before the wipe, we found a pickable locker. We put the locker in out base, and the second we put in the middle of ncr market. No map reloads, no item disapearing and such. Stored items in that locker also didnt disapear so technicaly it should work.
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You are enjoying when you must go there and take bilion things from ground where you dont see number of this item and etc. In chest you can stock for example only resources or something, better than on ground.
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You are enjoying when you must go there and take bilion things from ground where you dont see number of this item and etc. In chest you can stock for example only resources or something, better than on ground.
Because of you server is overloaded ;p
Don't store billion of crap. Sell it or drop in NCR or, better, on wrold map, or don't even pick up, or just disassemble everything is disassembleable. Why do you need that 435238954 10mm pistols? 3475864 deteorated leather jackets? 94858564 shotguns? 345839 flamers? I don't have crap at my tent (only items from unlucky "followers" from NCR who died in "Exit Grid", so I can't pick it up...), I have only items I will use, other I drop/disassemble/sell/throw at someone.
buy caravan.
Omg, he is a genius.
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It will be really helpfull if you will add craftable chests or small boxes to game. For example only one per player.
Simple wood chest is one of most simple thing on world so i think that its not too big problem have craftable chest in game.
If you dont have space in tent, dont want taking items from ground in all base, or you want have order in your things so chest is best solution for you !
buy caravan.
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Why ? Why i cant have my own new chest ? Why i must go to NCR and buy caravan ?
Seems that every simple solution for something is everytime bad.
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Caravan ? Imagine 10+ caravans in base, parked randomly - yes, its a mess.
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How hard is it to make yourself a wooden bookshelf? And how hard could be something like chest? 1x hammer, few nails, some wood, 30 minutes of work.
Such "furniture" ideas were here many times before yes devs never really responded to any of them. Dunno why they avoid it so much. It simple, usable, will not harm anything (simple restriction to allow to drop chest only in bases/tents should do the trick) and it would make organization so much easier. You claim this is the faction mod yet you seem to ignore even those most simple requests that faction members have. ::)
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One thing is the duplication bug. Search for "bag" and see it's mentioned there as well.
Another thing is, I'm afraid, more organization = more crap.
Now some people don't hoard millions of items in their tents simply because it becomes a mess fast. With craftable containers, everyone would gladly have hundreds of items neatly sorted never to be used again.
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Such "furniture" ideas were here many times before yes devs never really responded to any of them. Dunno why they avoid it so much. It simple, usable, will not harm anything (simple restriction to allow to drop chest only in bases/tents should do the trick) and it would make organization so much easier. You claim this is the faction mod yet you seem to ignore even those most simple requests that faction members have. Roll Eyes
I responded always to them. But to repeat it again: I totally love the idea and want it as soon as possible. Craftable chairs, tables, houses,... But it's simply not possible to solve this in a good way in the actual state of the engine. We could make such things possible, but not without a humungous big shitload of work, which has to be done at least twice. And then, when we can do this in a easy way with new engine features, we would need to revert everything and do the work again.
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One thing is the duplication bug. Search for "bag" and see it's mentioned there as well.
bug = unwanted feature = will get eliminated
Another thing is, I'm afraid, more organization = more crap.
Now some people don't hoard millions of items in their tents simply because it becomes a mess fast. With craftable containers, everyone would gladly have hundreds of items neatly sorted never to be used again.
Thats the worst "argument" I've seen here on forums man :D.
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For what we need craftable chairs and tables ? Chest is HELPFULL idea. Chair ??? Absolute off-topic and crazy.
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For what we need craftable chairs and tables ? Chest is HELPFULL idea. Chair ??? Absolute off-topic and crazy.
Man everything like this is +1. If we could actually sit in chars and use a table (play cars, have beer on it etc) in future thanks to 3d models than it would be awesome.
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Maybe in future with full 3D models. But right now ? ...
Dont forget, Chest is HELPFULL idea !
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+1 to craftable containers.
Two wipes ago I had a desk in my tent. I don't know where it was from, I bought it for 1k caps from a player, took to tent and placed on the ground. It worked perfectly as container, no missed items from the ground, no strange things going on, no map reloading.
I don't know much about technical issues and how hundred of crates will behave placed all around on one base map, also something could change in that matter from this time.
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Why ? Why i cant have my own new chest ? Why i must go to NCR and buy caravan ?
Seems that every simple solution for something is everytime bad.
why you have to get everything for free? you want it you have to ability to get it but you still making shitty suggestion.
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why you have to get everything for free? you want it you have to ability to get it but you still making shitty suggestion.
Its not shitty suggestion its suggestion that makes sense. Now every gang has either brahmin parked everywhere or tons of items on the grounds or both. This is a faction mod yet factions has 0 option how to manage their stuff, separate good stuff from bad and somehow limit access to good stuff for new players. Thats the worst thing about everything. You take just 1 wrong guy in and you are done. He brings few friends and caravan and your hard work will be gone in a second. Yeah like thats possible in real life when 1st day noobie gets access to the top secrets hidden in safe/vault of the company he works for.
As I suggested months ago I would love possibility to hire some NPC that will work for you at certain gang hideouts. Something like banker at Redding. He would talk to you and through barter you would open an account in your base where you would put all your stuff and manage who will have access to your acc and who wont. Also something like general armor/wepon/ammo/drug store could exist there and only trusted members and higher ranked officers would have acces to it. Lets say that such item store should be limited in total item/weight capacity that could be boosted vie buying new lockers through our npc. So you buy yourself an outstanding base which would support such npc banker feature (caves and low hideouts should not have it) and you buy yourself some extra item storage space so in final you could store like few tons of materials there.
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whats the difference between brahmins parked and boxes instead of them ?
And if you want to have everything in same place drop same items on same ground hex.
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whats the difference between brahmins parked and boxes instead of them ?
And if you want to have everything in same place drop same items on same ground hex.
Man please stop responding here or I will have to be rude. You see Lexx likes the idea and thats good but still you will keep posting such nonsense post of yours for what? Whats the reason of your posts? You don't want this game to develop or you want to get deeper into some developers a**?
Sure we can take brahmin or caravan or drop stuff all around the ground but that has massive cons when it comes to gang management and growth. If you are that blind them I will tell you why we want craftable containers and furniture:
- you can scroll through them like in inventory
- you can have more stuff in smaller space (cows, caravans, leaving stuff on the ground takes enormous amount of space)
- you can lock them
- you can manage your gang supplies with more ease
- it can lead into more sophisticated stuff like crafting barricades, holes and bridges, or eventually some storage system like I've suggested etc.
So why on earth we should stick to current situation, when its not suitable even for smaller gangs that don't PvP at all? Just because you could say we can already store our items in something locker-like like brahmins or caravans? Man you are truly THE King of the wasteland.
Edit: 2 vedaras: I will simply ignore you from now on since you talk only nonsense.
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Sure we can take brahmin or caravan or drop stuff all around the ground but that has massive cons when it comes to gang management and growth. If you are that blind them I will tell you why we want craftable containers and furniture:
- you can scroll through them like in inventory
- you can have more stuff in smaller space (cows, caravans, leaving stuff on the ground takes enormous amount of space)
- you can lock them
- you can manage your gang supplies with more ease
- it can lead into more sophisticated stuff like crafting barricades, holes and bridges, or eventually some storage system like I've suggested etc.
gangs have bases with shitloads of lockers so i dont see a problem in here neither. Tents are made not for gangs and if you are keeping whole gangs stuff in your tent then its your own problem.
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gangs have bases with shitloads of lockers
:o man, you have never been in gang base, have you? ;)
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Vedaras, sorry but you know shit about playing in a gang and bases. What bases lack most are lockers and storage units. Also your perfect solution with brahmins and caravans has flaws - brahmins can be accessed by only 1 character and caravas were mentioned before. Seriously, stuff management in bases is a big problem, thus I support Sius´ idea
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The more expensive the base, the more lockers. There is a reason, why we didn't added many to the less expensive bases.
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whats the difference between brahmins parked and boxes instead of them ?
And if you want to have everything in same place drop same items on same ground hex.
+1 to this.
If you really want, you can ask a GM to magically change the brahmin's skin to a locker :p
Lexx is for decorations and customising maps, not adding chests.
And if you want to have item control, then have a tent that's only for the high-level officers of your faction. Or get some trustworthy players to guard stuff 24/7 in shifts. Wasteland is harsh, ha!
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So next good idea will vanished ? Beacuse we have brahmins ?
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Really good. Maybe i can try stop posting my "stupid" suggetions.
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So next good idea will vanished ? Beacuse we have brahmins ?
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Really good. Maybe i can try stop posting my "stupid" suggetions.
I think we will have some better item management in future. Because limiting bases with hard coded lockers is just... pointless. No matter how many lockers are there it will never slow people down in bringing items to the base and keeping them there so adding craftable lockers will do only one thing -> better item management for factions. Nothing more nothing less. Anyway even with craftable lockers if there is not something like gang vault or locker log, then it will be still nightmare to bring new people to the gang because when something vanishes you can never tell who is behind it.
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Nevermind. Some "player" who stay in safe town all day say something here and after this suggestion will be destroyed.
Beacuse we are only bad cheaters and want all thing so easy and free. And they are players who know how play better than others.
Not matter that someone want change something to better.
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Nevermind. Some "player" who stay in safe town all day say something here and after this suggestion will be destroyed.
Beacuse we are only bad cheaters and want all thing so easy and free. And they are players who know how play better than others.
Not matter that someone want change something to better.
You're taking everything just black or white. Of course there are some people how seem to dwell just in the NCR and doing nothing elese, but I think this is the vast minority. Of course, the NCR is a trading centre - but not everyone who stands there for a couple of minutes is staying the whole day. And also not every player who is into PvP is a Playerkiller/Griefer, or is using bots etc. ;)
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But for some "smart" people we are only PKs who must using bots and cheats to easier game beacuse we "dont know how play" and they "know". I want one helpfull thing in game and omeone tell me "You dont know how play, you just want everything for free".
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There is no way to "play the game". Every player draws his own pleasures out of the games experience. ;)
So, I don't think there are so much people around here just standing in NCR all day etc.
But anyway, this is getting offtopic.
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So next good idea will vanished ? Beacuse we have brahmins ?
Did you even read what I wrote? We wont add such stuff now, because of two reasons:
1. If you think the box in your tent isn't enough, get some people and buy a faction base. The more expensive the base, the more lockers and containers.
2. We cannot add such kind of containers in a 'simple' way right now, due to engine limitations and other funny stuff. So even if we wanted to (we got something similar in closed beta test many months ago), it doesn't work very well and produces bugs.
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Its ok. This suggestion can be locked.