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Title: An error?
Post by: Gimper on May 20, 2013, 12:43:17 am
OK, well I got a warning last time I posted this, but hopefully a few edits will not get me another warning. I was hunting NCR army, with my 3 luck farming character. I took down a few soldiers, and then a hunting rifle npc shot me in the head for EXACTLY the remainder of my HP, and bypassed my armor?!? This is a glitch or no? If insta-kills are available on players, I suggest to change that because there is no way a simple hunting rifle should deal 154 damage, even with a crit...  I thought 3 luck resisted bypasses, but I guess not.
Here is my proof.
Title: Re: An error?
Post by: MrWillsauce on May 20, 2013, 01:15:17 am
Headshot crits can take you down to 0HP, regardless of the weapon used or how much damage it does.
Title: Re: An error?
Post by: Gimper on May 20, 2013, 01:18:46 am
Yesyesyes but I thought 3 luck resists armor bypasses. Normal head crits (AFAIK) cannot take you to 0.
Title: Re: An error?
Post by: MrWillsauce on May 20, 2013, 01:21:02 am
Evidently they can.
Title: Re: An error?
Post by: Gimper on May 20, 2013, 01:34:35 am
Nope. As in the picture, it was indeed a bypass. Not a normal head crit.
Title: Re: An error?
Post by: Kanly on May 20, 2013, 01:47:22 am
Your armor deterioration?

Remember a legend tell that with armor under 50 you have a 25 to get a bypass and under 25 you get a 50 of bypass
Title: Re: An error?
Post by: Furior on May 20, 2013, 01:54:28 am
3 luck doesnt make you inmune to armor bypass...it just reduces the chance. Anyway, that fucking hunting rifles used by NCR patrols are stupidly OP. They can easily troll you and kill you, and if you beat them you can only get that crap, useless in our hands.

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Remember a legend tell that with armor under 50 you have a 25 to get a bypass and under 25 you get a 50 of bypass
Thats true but when that kind of armor bypass happens, nothing is shown in the message box, just a higher damage.
Title: Re: An error?
Post by: Swinglinered on May 20, 2013, 03:09:29 am
The hunting rifles are special when used by NCR Army?

Title: Re: An error?
Post by: Gimper on May 20, 2013, 04:20:07 am
Helmet 84/86 armor 69/73. Its total BS.
Title: Re: An error?
Post by: falloutdude on May 20, 2013, 05:20:02 am
All npcs can get crazy criticals even with shitty guns like 10 mm and hunting rifles. A farmer once got me from 90hp to 0 with a pipe rifle. Npcs are OP!
Title: Re: An error?
Post by: Swinglinered on May 20, 2013, 07:22:49 am
It would be great if they would put in "JinxMob" and "Po Folks" encounters.

JinxMob would be Jinxed Kamikaze Molotov grenadiers and Po Folks would be Heavy-Handed Kamikazes with spiked knuckles. 1 in 5 of each would be a 10 Luck, 200+ SG skill sniper with pipe rifle and AP ammo.

Would be fun, especially if they came 7-15 at a time, with a 30% chance of both groups appearing together.

Loot would be pocket lint, beer, jet, food items/misc, nuka, cigs, and flowers (all 3 kinds).

They would be dressed only in rags, except occasionally (1 in 4 encounters) led by a "Messiah" who would be one of those hermits with a ripper and mad criticals.

Title: Re: An error?
Post by: Mayck on May 20, 2013, 11:29:15 am
Only way to do such damage with Hunting Rifle is to score an insta-kill. Insta-kills can still happen, though they are pretty rare, because man of steel or bonehead or high endurance basically nulifies the chance to recieve it.
Title: Re: An error?
Post by: Mike Crosser on May 20, 2013, 01:35:46 pm
Quote from: Kanly on May 20, 2013, 01:47:22 am
Your armor deterioration?

Remember a legend tell that with armor under 50 you have a 25 to get a bypass and under 25 you get a 50 of bypass
Wasn't that changed?
Title: Re: An error?
Post by: C.H.A.R.L.I.E on May 20, 2013, 03:26:09 pm
3 luck is pretty low. I've posted the bypass %chance graph before, but here it is again:
(http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s604/DogsAtCards/OkCYR_zps23fb9dc7.png) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/DogsAtCards/media/OkCYR_zps23fb9dc7.png.html)

As you can see, with 3 luck the NCR army has about 20% chance to bypass you on critical hits.

Anyway that insta-kill supports my theory that luck does indeed affect critical power (the kind better criticals give). It seems to me that below 5 luck gives bonus to enemy crit power. Ever tried playing a 1 luck character? They receive far more severe critical hits, even to groin and other body parts that is suposedly a constitution roll.


C.H.A.R.L.I.E

Title: Re: An error?
Post by: -Max Payne- on May 20, 2013, 04:12:29 pm
Yes dont do shiting char with 2-3 luck, and be staunt that you have insta-kills, try to farm enclave with an unlucky big gunner you will die at the first encounter.