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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: vedaras on April 19, 2013, 08:35:20 pm
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Well devs said, that they want player opinions, so lets give it to them. I made a survey consisting from questions "which is better/which you prefer" type, where you chose which feature was better for you the old/older/current etc. So lets vote. The survey results cannot be shared now, but they can be turned into pdf file, so after a couple days i will make that pdf file and upload the file for the public results.
Please click on the link and vote in the survey, if devs hear us, lets express our opinion on what game we want to play.
http://pollmill.com/f/fallout-online-player-voice-nk68r7k/answers/new.fullpage
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I set most of its to either "Don`t know" or "its fine as it is now". Still Crafting one needs option: "We need something else"
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if you havent tested them all please do not select that its fine as it is, cause you havent tested. This poll is mostly made not for newbies like undeground, but for more experienced players who has tested all of the features mentioned.
Also please check this link if you see the results: http://stellarsurvey.com/Analyzer/Analyze.aspx?sid=91700
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if you havent tested them all please do not select that its fine as it is, cause you havent tested. This poll is mostly made not for newbies like undeground, but for more experienced players who has tested all of the features mentioned.
Also please check this link if you see the results: http://stellarsurvey.com/Analyzer/Analyze.aspx?sid=91700
Can't view the results,seems like I have to register to that site.
I like this idea,tho i wish there were more questions and more options.
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well it seems to be ip related, because i didint have to register myself to make that poll and i can view the results :)
talking about more questions and results: they can be added to another survey, if devs would give a damn about this one :) Also so far 19 players have voted, so keep it comming guys, our goal is to have common opinion of whole server.
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DEV gives no fuck.Dead end.
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I like this session after all the updates. They finally got it right. (most of it)
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Well guys, so far i can tell that most of the votes have several choices that have more or less same amount of votes! so we need more of your opinion.
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I like this session after all the updates. They finally got it right. (most of it)
I loled hard here. You like this session since serious pvp gangs started to play on TLA.
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Well it is unfortunate that we don't know were the Devs are meaning to go with this game, what we really need is an answer to that question, so we can begin working in their box, instead of throwing around conflicting ideas.
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damn, survey was autoclosed somehow i think, so who havent voted click here again and vote
http://stellarsurvey.com/s.aspx?u=58C0C01C-B8DA-46C9-AA39-4B46CD49E35A&
i opened it now
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damn, survey was autoclosed somehow i think, so who havent voted click here again and vote
http://stellarsurvey.com/s.aspx?u=58C0C01C-B8DA-46C9-AA39-4B46CD49E35A&
i opened it now
That one is closed too.
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ah fuck it, it says that it auto closes, when 20 responses are made, cause i didint buy that shit, wait till i will find some new survey :D
Please fill this survey, it works fine: http://pollmill.com/f/fallout-online-player-voice-nk68r7k/answers/new.fullpage
and also old players who did old survey, should do this new, it has one more question also.
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Voted.
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Is bozar a minigun or a sniper rifle
(https://i.imgur.com/Zcs89v4.gif)
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Starting to think that this wasn't such a good idea.
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These questions are rather weird.
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what questions would not be weird?
so far 46 people have voted, and from the results i see, i agree with most of the results, still just with most :) Keep expressing your opinion guys, every vote is important, the more players vote the bigger part of community will send the message of what game we want.
http://pollmill.com/f/fallout-online-player-voice-nk68r7k/answers/new.fullpage
click and vote
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I loled hard here. You like this session since serious pvp gangs started to play on TLA.
Hahaha!! Yes. that's exactly why I like this session ::) Idiots.. idiots never change.
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all of your options are
A)shitty mechanic
B)shittier mechanic
C)shittiest mechanic
D)i don't know
btw the only way to make this game better requires a time machine and the ability to convince solar to waste his time working on 2238 since he was the only competent dev.
**finished the poll, not surprisingly the majority of players don't like any of the changes introduced by jovanka and company
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what questions would not be weird?
It's pointless to ask any questions because just because players think they want something doesn't mean it's good for the game. NPC factions Reputation was thought to be cool and and interesting but it turned out hollow and easy to bypass. It doesn't matter if 200 players want something if it turns out wrong because these players didn't know the game well enough to predict the consequences.
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It's pointless to ask any questions because just because players think they want something doesn't mean it's good for the game. NPC factions Reputation was thought to be cool and and interesting but it turned out hollow and easy to bypass. It doesn't matter if 200 players want something if it turns out wrong because these players didn't know the game well enough to predict the consequences.
well personaly for me you are not the player whose suggestions devs should be following because your fonline vision in eyes of me is some retarded rp fallout, just personal opinion, nothing against you :)
and roachor: if you want to suggest some good mechanics, there is suggestions topic for that, in here we just try to find out, which feature in what time players enjoyed most, since joy is what we expect from a game when we play.
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It's pointless to ask any questions because just because players think they want something doesn't mean it's good for the game. NPC factions Reputation was thought to be cool and and interesting but it turned out hollow and easy to bypass. It doesn't matter if 200 players want something if it turns out wrong because these players didn't know the game well enough to predict the consequences.
This.
Funnily enough, blueprints were a thing occasionally asked for by players. Now I have seen quite many people wanting to get rid of it. Not like I blame them, the way of getting them is not that great.
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convince solar to waste his time working on 2238 since he was the only competent dev.
Wasn't solar the one who insisted that blueprints should be added for high tier gear?
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This.
Funnily enough, blueprints were a thing occasionally asked for by players. Now I have seen quite many people wanting to get rid of it. Not like I blame them, the way of getting them is not that great.
in my personal opinion blueprints arent that bad,but i think they should be used for somewhat extra rare stuff like gating laser/gauss pistol or etc which could be considered as extra bonus, and now they are used on everydays item, so they just add grinding nothing more :)
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I don't like most of the choices.
They are almost all:
*How it was a few years ago
*How it was a couple years ago
*How it was several months ago
*How it is now
*I don't know
I appreciate and enjoy almost all of the changes made by the devs. I would not want to devolve into a bygone era of 2238.
You should rename this topic as "vedaras' voice"
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Come on ved, the brahmin shit answers are manipulated ;D I could just as well write it like this:
1) Like it was in 2009, with brahmin notoriously escaping the pens and traveling to some strange places, making them hard to find.
2) Like it was until mid 2012, with brahmin making shit on a single hex most of the time, resulting in almost no shit to clean, and in the result very little xp and caps.
3) Like it is now, with 5-10 caps of reward, brahmin not escaping the pens, poop distributed evenly in the pens and more XP for low level characters than ever.
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good doctor, that is because all players have one vote, its not about your opinion, not about my opinion, its common opinion every player express, so dont make our personality more important than whole communities.
As to Jovanka - well players know the differences still, i named one choice toilet control also... the thing is that players understand, doesnt matter how or what i described.
And also keep voting guys, 79 opinions so far, the more we have, the more people will be heard so the more accurate conclusions could be made out of this.
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Guarded city, tc towns guarded with possibility after tc be somethink like sheriff. Balanced crafting, farming stealing - make it all same. Maximaly balance weapons. Give same possibility to obtain things by crafting as to farming (its weird if better armors are from easy farming than hard crafting). Make some kind of caravans, more quests, make game alive. After these big changes wipe it.
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Or just wipe this server finally, because its just frustration and violence on the players, which have another work than all day gathering shitty stuff, which are able immediately lost in a few minutes. This server is itself boring, it just depends how many people are available, without them is nothing to do, because everything in the game is boring like your poor fantasy without any advanced concept (randomness, caravanas, random attacking NPCs in cities/take over, crafting system as it was on the beggining of game,...). Personally I would appreciate WIPE only when it will be not mean correcting and testing new bugs next X-months. Without a chance!
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Use search next time.
Wipe is not the solution,you may think it is,but it isn't.
Just removing items won't work,you need to add new features as well this is the whole point of the damn wipe.
New features means new players or maybe even old players.Are you starting to get how this excrement works?
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Personally I would appreciate WIPE only when it will be not mean correcting and testing new bugs next X-months. Without a chance!
Then you missed the point.
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keep it coming guys, 92 votes so far, lets make 100 valuable opinions at least
http://pollmill.com/f/fallout-online-player-voice-nk68r7k/answers/new.fullpage
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voted
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It's pointless to ask any questions because just because players think they want something doesn't mean it's good for the game. NPC factions Reputation was thought to be cool and and interesting but it turned out hollow and easy to bypass. It doesn't matter if 200 players want something if it turns out wrong because these players didn't know the game well enough to predict the consequences.
This sums it up pretty well.
Its like this suggestion (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,28935.0.html) where players want something fast and effortless but in the end, it wouldnt lead to a healthy gameplay.
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Just want a server without abuse and with small obvious correction like those NPC faction who thing is a good thing to fight group of guys with BA and avenger.
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Just want a server without abuse
What abuse? You call spawning stuff by Izual for Cajuns aka TTTLA abusing? ;)
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I want a server where players get the option of getting 'insta-boosted' to level 24 upon log-in. Then we just make the char by picking appropriate skills/traits and go PVP/PVE-farming/TC/NRC idling etc. till our hearts content without all the grinding. Honestly the server would probably have a better population if it eliminated all the grinding of having to create multiple alts just to see a little pvp action/TC etc.
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I want a server where players get the option of getting 'insta-boosted' to level 24 upon log-in. Then we just make the char by picking appropriate skills/traits and go PVP/PVE-farming/TC/NRC idling etc. till our hearts content without all the grinding. Honestly the server would probably have a better population if it eliminated all the grinding of having to create multiple alts just to see a little pvp action/TC etc.
We should also get free vertibirds and gauss rifles and vindicators when we create char.For teh lulz.
Also a special stimpak that increases all of our stats by 10 and gives us 1000hp lolz.
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We should also get free vertibirds and gauss rifles and vindicators when we create char.For teh lulz.
Also a special stimpak that increases all of our stats by 10 and gives us 1000hp lolz.
Actually, it would be much better than all things until now.
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We should also get free vertibirds and gauss rifles and vindicators when we create char.For teh lulz.
Also a special stimpak that increases all of our stats by 10 and gives us 1000hp lolz.
Honestly big gangs now use merc leaders to level up. A merc leader with max followers can spawn encounters worth 20K. On top of that there is a bug with merc leaders that freeze all the critters. One can then level up another character by walking into said encounter via distress. The frozen critters are easy picking; as they don't attack back, and one can level up any consecutive chars in about 2hours using this method. So why force new players/solo players to level up in weeks, might as well make it even for all and go auto-level to 24 (maybe include an option for all the masochists). Everything else could still be done the old way i.e. you still need to build your char and still need to farm for gear in order to be able to pvp/TC etc. Might bring some fresh blood to the server with more action because right now the server is boring because you basically need a three alts- 1. slaver (for caps), 2. thief (to steal from enclave/bos), and a 3. farmer (to do the rest), just to be able to support a pvp/TC char all that require grinding. So if alts are necessity why not at least take away the grinding?
Might even see more TC/pvp action this way!?...just my 2 cents worth.
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I want a server where players get the option of getting 'insta-boosted' to level 24 upon log-in. Then we just make the char by picking appropriate skills/traits and go PVP/PVE-farming/TC/NRC idling etc. till our hearts content without all the grinding. Honestly the server would probably have a better population if it eliminated all the grinding of having to create multiple alts just to see a little pvp action/TC etc.
Not sure if trolling...
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Honestly big gangs now use merc leaders to level up. A merc leader with max followers can spawn encounters worth 20K. On top of that there is a bug with merc leaders that freeze all the critters. One can then level up another character by walking into said encounter via distress. The frozen critters are easy picking; as they don't attack back, and one can level up any consecutive chars in about 2hours using this method.
Thanks for report, I guess... I just made a ticket for this, so you don't have to bother making it yourself.
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What abuse? You call spawning stuff by Izual for Cajuns aka TTTLA abusing? ;)
Sir, you are saying bullshit. That sort of abuse never happened, not even a single time. He wouldn't have given a single 9mm bullet for free to anyone.
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I just wanna see player vs player poker clubs in the bars... THATS ALL!
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Sir, you are saying bullshit. That sort of abuse never happened, not even a single time. He wouldn't have given a single 9mm bullet for free to anyone.
Specialy not to me :P
Izual was not a TTTLA fan, not at all!
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Wasn't solar the one who insisted that blueprints should be added for high tier gear?
how well that has worked
It's just added some tedious extra steps if anything. With the recent restrictions the economy is inflated heavily from a new players perspective.
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i can give you a hint, that you can play poker ok poker client, because fonline seems more like rpg than a life simulator for me :) unless if 300 gamble would get AA all the time :)
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i can give you a hint, that you can play poker and poker client, because fonline seems more like rpg than a life simulator for me :) unless if 300 gamble would get AA all the time :)
Poker is not a game of luck, and therefore the gamble skill should take no part in it.
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(http://i37.tinypic.com/2l8hsaf.jpg)
Sorry ,but i think, its to late for changes. (41 players)
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Poker is not a game of luck, and therefore the gamble skill should take no part in it.
and this is the reason, why it shouldnt be in rpg game.
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and this is the reason, why it shouldnt be in rpg game.
you say that "SKILL" should take no part in a game where reaction time and swift mouse clicks in real time PvP combat isn't a factor?
Lol bullshit man.
Texas Hold'em deserves to be in the game without the use of a "gambling" skill affecting anything.
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Sorry ,but i think, its to late for changes. (41 players)
Glumer we understand how you feel.
I mean how can we not?Since you keep blabbing this bullshit non stop.
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Glumer we understand how you feel.
I mean how can we not?Since you keep blabbing this bullshit non stop.
so you think facts about numbers of players are bullshit are you blind? Your intelingence is worst then tripletrolls. If in March was there about 216 people and now these numbers dropped on maybe 70, so what? you think its cause its outside nice weather? Then please genius explain me how its possible that another server obtain same numbers which other server lost. Most of people leaved when new update came its about 186 people and after few days you cannot find anyone there.
Jovanka never ask players on forum on how game can be. And now she asking in two threads so she know it now too. If she live on South yes its nice when she spawning you skins, and shits on bases or tents but she must work for all if she is main developer. She lead that project, project which can has great player base, great potencial. But now...
Im not only pvp, i love crafting but in these days is shitty after last wipe.
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Oh the player numbers are down?I didn't notice.
Apart from the most obvious reason most players decided to leave because of the stealing nerf.
But what I don't understand is why didn't you predict this?Aside the 10+ threads and 100+ posts about SS being OP there was also devs word that it might get nerfed.
You could have just stolen about 500 and you'd have been set for about a month.
By that time crafters would have mass SS auctions.
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Oh the player numbers are down?I didn't notice.
Apart from the most obvious reason most players decided to leave because of the stealing nerf.
But what I don't understand is why didn't you predict this?Aside the 10+ threads and 100+ posts about SS being OP there was also devs word that it might get nerfed.
You could have just stolen about 500 and you'd have been set for about a month.
By that time crafters would have mass SS auctions.
What? Super stimps are op? Where you get it? Have you ever been in some real pvp? I used 2k of ss per month. I have a lot in bases but i dont see any point to play cause there is more which have tons of it and new players are now in bad situation cause they cannot get more than we have. But there is like always no balance, Devs dont do balance they only nerv totally something.
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& where is part about thiefs in this?
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What? Super stimps are op? Where you get it? Have you ever been in some real pvp? I used 2k of ss per month. I have a lot in bases but i dont see any point to play cause there is more which have tons of it and new players are now in bad situation cause they cannot get more than we have. But there is like always no balance, Devs dont do balance they only nerv totally something.
Well if you started looking outside of butthurt threads and the gang issues subforum you would have noticed that there were many posts about hot SS was overused.
And that any chap with half a brain can survive against 3 people because he sticks a needle up his ass.
My opinions on this topic is no longer the same but I still don't like the whole system.
& where is part about thiefs in this?
Replying to this would be like telling a someone he shouldn't stab himself because he can get hurt.
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Well if you started looking outside of butthurt threads and the gang issues subforum you would have noticed that there were many posts about hot SS was overused.
And that any chap with half a brain can survive against 3 people because he sticks a needle up his ass.
My opinions on this topic is no longer the same but I still don't like the whole system.
Replying to this would be like telling a someone he shouldn't stab himself because he can get hurt.
if not ss, then all fights would last like 1 minute maximum, thats why they were buffed some time ago in first place :)
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Poker is not a game of luck, and therefore the gamble skill should take no part in it.
Gamble skill?
This would help in poker, as it is not a game of luck.
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Gamble skill?
This would help in poker, as it is not a game of luck.
How would you suggest the gamble skill alter a game of no limit texas hold'em?
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How would you suggest the gamble skill alter a game of no limit texas hold'em?
Depends on how automated it is.
The more player input, the more it is about the skill of the player.
If it were just "click to get result", then you could run that off of Gambling skill rating.
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good job vedaras ! ;) I'm looking forward to seeing our ,,voted changes,, inGAME. Keep doing this work.