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Title: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Alvarez on April 10, 2013, 12:31:35 pm
Or better know as MP2A1.
(http://www.falloutwiki.com/images/7/70/Tactics_uzi.png)
AFAIK, there was a suggestion about decrafting 9mm ball ammo into gunpowder, but is somewhere on the page 15 already.
So, i suggest another way of utilizing the enormous amounts of 9mm ammo looted from raiders - give it them back en masse, as a burst!
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Spotty on April 10, 2013, 12:37:33 pm
I second that.

Need a way to waste ammo.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: LostSoul on April 10, 2013, 12:43:36 pm
Yes please.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Dark. on April 10, 2013, 01:00:37 pm
Devs have to rebalance the existing ones, then, they should put new weapons.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Mike Crosser on April 10, 2013, 01:19:31 pm
Devs have to rebalance the existing ones, then, they should put new weapons.
This argument is one of the most annoying things on this forum.
Dude,this will in no way screw up the balance,this is just a cool way to get rid of the mauser ammo.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: LostSoul on April 10, 2013, 01:21:26 pm
This argument is one of the most annoying things on this forum.
Dude,this will in no way screw up the balance,this is just a cool way to get rid of the mauser ammo.
+1
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Alvarez on April 10, 2013, 01:47:50 pm
Devs have to rebalance the existing ones, then, they should put new weapons.

The Uzi can copy the stats of Greasegun and 9mm ammo is weaker anyway.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: BenKain on April 10, 2013, 05:35:24 pm
Yeah, that would be cool as hell... I wouldn't need to grab a random assortment of ammo for my slaver. Just use the useless crap!
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: falloutdude on April 10, 2013, 06:10:56 pm
devs will never balance weapons. add new weapons so atleast there is some variety of weapons in this game. I would love to see all the weapons from tactics in fonline 2238. Other servers like TLA are badass because they have alot of weapons and variety.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Tomowolf on April 10, 2013, 06:18:41 pm
Still, if guns aren't balanced, adding more guns, could cause bigger variety of characters, not just Avenger tank/crit SG sniper/crippler and gatling tank/crit and sneakers with gatlings...
1. Balance LMGs to be more accurate and have bigger range than miniguns.
2. Buff up str req for miniguns-they're already deadly at close range.
3. Add new shotgun ammo, increase sg burst range.
4. Add new support and more or less usable guns (bolt rifle for hunting animal skins, m79 to be supportive SG (6str req), Bigger pistol variety, smaller and bigger assault rifles, buff up FN FAiL).

Pretty simple, but those are just dreams, let's wait for another update.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Mike Crosser on April 10, 2013, 10:19:27 pm
Other servers like TLA are badass because they have alot of weapons and variety.
I hope you don't mean those alien dual plasma blaster bollocks cannons.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: DeputyDope on April 11, 2013, 01:06:53 am
Still, if guns aren't balanced, adding more guns, could cause bigger variety of characters, not just Avenger tank/crit SG sniper/crippler and gatling tank/crit and sneakers with gatlings...


how the hell is adding more guns to the already unbalanced existing ones could cause an even bigger variety of characters? this crap doesn't even make sense.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: falloutdude on April 11, 2013, 04:18:18 am
how the hell is adding more guns to the already unbalanced existing ones could cause an even bigger variety of characters? this crap doesn't even make sense.
how is never balancing the current weapons going to make the game better?
play on other servers and then come back to this game and realize that the variety of weapons and builds are so low that its pathetic. Add new weapons adds the benefit of making new builds to be specialized in a weapon. for example making a build specialized  in using a grenade launcher.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Wind_Drift on April 11, 2013, 06:17:14 am
The current selection of weapons will never be "Balanced", whether or not something is balanced is an opinion that is different for every person.  That's why it's a stupid argument, because it's impossible.  Make some of you happy, the others will complain.  Make them happy, others will complain.  Make them happy... yeah, there's no pleasing you guys.

However - it would take less than 30 minutes to add a 9mm SMG and fit it into the game world, and has already been pointed out would in no way negatively effect (in reality, or your perception) the "balance" of currently existing weapons.

All that would happen is there would be mass complaining that Dev's are "wasting their time", instead of making you happy.

So, plus fucking one to this suggestion.  This is why I suggested it a while back...
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: dskpnk on April 11, 2013, 12:57:16 pm
I think, there are so many more priority than adding a 9mm smg, for example increase laser, but yes, more weapon needed (don"t cry bla bla unbalanced, it's a beta, so it mean things need to be tested !)
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Haraldx on April 12, 2013, 04:04:32 pm
At best it would just give us an automatic mauser or something of that sort. Doubt we really need this.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Senocular on April 12, 2013, 04:08:00 pm
We need this to burst people in NCR.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Alvarez on April 12, 2013, 05:09:16 pm
At best it would just give us an automatic mauser or something of that sort. Doubt we really need this.

If, then make the Mauser a silenced weapon, so sneakers could use them. I'd rather burst away all those 2000x 9mm ammo i never crafted.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: LostSoul on April 12, 2013, 11:07:11 pm
TLA has all the weapons we could ever want. I'm confused as to why some aren't just brought right over..?
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Brujah on April 12, 2013, 11:28:44 pm
The thing is that the mauser itself is underused, I don't think even the nubbest of nub uses it after he's capable of killing critters with greases or shotguns.



TLA has all the weapons we could ever want. I'm confused as to why some aren't just brought right over..?

2238 sticks with canon weapons, this has been discussed a few times by earlier similar suggestions, it might change later but for now I'm pretty sure it won't happen.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: LostSoul on April 13, 2013, 12:45:17 am



2238 sticks with canon weapons, this has been discussed a few times by earlier similar suggestions, it might change later but for now I'm pretty sure it won't happen.

For a game that prides itself for the PvP over the story/narrative/quests and such... does having weaponry canon to the story really MATTER?

Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Mike Crosser on April 13, 2013, 12:07:26 pm
For a game that prides itself for the PvP over the story/narrative/quests and such... does having weaponry canon to the story really MATTER?


Because the BFG9000 doesn't really fit the fallout world.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Brujah on April 13, 2013, 12:10:21 pm
For a game that prides itself for the PvP over the story/narrative/quests and such... does having weaponry canon to the story really MATTER?

I don't know, go get butthurt over the truth to devs, I just repeated what they told me a few months ago.
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Alvarez on April 13, 2013, 06:46:25 pm
Because the BFG9000 doesn't really fit the fallout world.

BFG9000 is what i suggested, right, Mike? I suggested a shit-tier burst weapon for 9mm ammo, with a slight hint to option of having the shit ammo dismantled to Gunpowder in some kind of machine. But it seems we can't have that.

If we can't have ammo dismantled (this option is available on TLA), so we could at least spend it on molerats leveling. And this is what my suggestion is about. :P
Title: Re: Uzi, the 9mm SMG
Post by: Mike Crosser on April 13, 2013, 08:37:12 pm
BFG9000 is what i suggested, right, Mike? I suggested a shit-tier burst weapon for 9mm ammo, with a slight hint to option of having the shit ammo dismantled to Gunpowder in some kind of machine. But it seems we can't have that.

If we can't have ammo dismantled (this option is available on TLA), so we could at least spend it on molerats leveling. And this is what my suggestion is about. :P
I was trying to explain to LostSoul why his argument was bullshit.This may not be canon in the fallout universe but don't forget that one of the strongest appeals for this game is the fact that it is based on one of the best RPGs in the last twenty years.


Your suggestion is good,and I believe there should be many different weapons that are or can be canon.