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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: Mike Crosser on March 29, 2013, 01:29:03 pm
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Before I start,I want to make it crystal clear that I know some of the weapons are already unbalanced or just plain useless,but sorry if I want to see something new implemented.
Here it goes:
A new small gun assault rifle with medium/small range (less then an assault rifle)
Not very useful from afar but at closer ranges it can hit pretty good,1hexing for example would be one of it's stronger uses.
This might give some chances and uses for two handed SGs in PvP other then crippling.
Also no need for a new sprite or anything(inventory or otherwise)
(http://www.falloutwiki.com/images/a/a6/Tactics_ak47.png)
The Fallout:Tactics AK47
edit: also 5mm ammo for it
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But wouldnt it be just a combat shotgun with different ammo and without knockback?
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But wouldnt it be just a combat shotgun with different ammo and without knockback?
Yes,but with (hopefully) better damage,and higher range.
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penetrate perk and 20-30 ammo per burst and it won't be like a shotgun :P
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Yes,but with (hopefully) better damage,and higher range.
If you ask for range, we're again at Assault Rifle. And with slightly higher Damage it would be a FN FAL.
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If you ask for range, we're again at Assault Rifle. And with slightly higher Damage it would be a FN FAL.
Again I say,close range,high damage,not a shotgun.
Yes I know it's confusing.
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Again I say,close range,high damage,not a shotgun.
Yes I know it's confusing.
What's confusing is the "no new weapons" policy on 2238.
And i'm trying to fit the AK47 somewhere between AR and CS, to make your suggestion more convincing.
Because i think when it comes to weapon game mechanics, it's time for numbers and some comments from PvPers, but alas as the devs are allergic to new weapons, i just can wish you luck with this suggestion, Mike.
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i think this suggestion is useless.
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Devs will never "balance" the current guns so lets add some variety and add new guns and stop attitudes like this.
i think this suggestion is useless.
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sure let's add some more weapons nobody will ever fuckin' use. how useful.
what's the point of adding new weapons since the existing weapons are so poorly balanced it's a joke?
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i think this suggestion is useless.
Your Useless
Anyway, I +1, I would love this for slaving.
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Your Useless
*you're.
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Not 5mm but 7.62!!! And range of 32/40.
12/36 per burst with damage +1 from single bilet Than assault rifle. 7.62 is much better ammo Than 5mm
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Actually, we don't really need new weapons. Re-balancing the existing ones would be good enough, just to make SG usable in PvP actions.
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I agree with Dark. Why add a whole new AK-47 weapon when the AK-112 Assault Rifle, for example, could be reworked?
Apart from that, I love the idea of a new "SG stormer" PvP class.
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Here it goes:
A new small gun assault rifle with medium/small range (less then an assault rifle)
Not very useful from afar but at closer ranges it can hit pretty good,1hexing for example would be one of it's stronger uses.
This might give some chances and uses for two handed SGs in PvP other then crippling.
Also no need for a new sprite or anything(inventory or otherwise)
(http://www.falloutwiki.com/images/a/a6/Tactics_ak47.png)
The Fallout:Tactics AK47
edit: also 5mm ammo for it
first of all it's NOT that hard hitting. its roughly the same as an m-16.
second, it uses 7mm, not 5mm.
ak's are the guns used by people who cant get REAL guns, not professionsal.
now, if you cut the cost, damage, range, and relaibility to half that of assault rifle, you might be onto something.
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ak's are the guns used by people who cant get REAL guns, not professionsal.
Hrmpf. Snort. AHAHAHA!
Excuse me! *wipe tears* this is one of most stupidest comments i heard about AKs.
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first of all it's NOT that hard hitting. its roughly the same as an m-16.
second, it uses 7mm, not 5mm.
ak's are the guns used by people who cant get REAL guns, not professionsal.
now, if you cut the cost, damage, range, and relaibility to half that of assault rifle, you might be onto something.
I wasn't really going for realism with this.
And since this is the wasteland real guns aren't really available only the crappy ones remade from old parts and junk(in theory anyway) so the AK should fit.
As for the "current weapons need balancing"
Well there have been past attempts to do it but all of them seem to have failed,since all of the changes to any weapon either screw up the balance for others or just ruin the weapon.
So I figure instead of screwing with that balancing thing again just add a new weapon that is useful for a certain scenario.
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Hrmpf. Snort. AHAHAHA!
Excuse me! *wipe tears* this is one of most stupidest comments i heard about AKs.
Tell it to the Russians.
Oh, and reduce the damage on burst to a third. Accuracy.
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Offtopic:I don't get it,you some backwards yonkey donkey redneck 'merican patriot,cause you kind of talk like one?
Since the AK is widely considered the best assault rifle in the world for it's high reliablity in the battlefield and not to mention that it's relatively cheap to make.
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ak's are the guns used by people who cant get REAL guns, not professionsal.
You obliviously have no idea what you are talking about.
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To defense of TU, the AK clones cant be really considered quality in comparison to IzhMash.
Nevertheless, the design is widely spread.
Even Americans like it, you know "never jams, never break, never hit anything from 500 yards."
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Offtopic:I don't get it,you some backwards yonkey donkey redneck 'merican patriot,cause you kind of talk like one?
Since the AK is widely considered the best assault rifle in the world for it's high reliablity in the battlefield and not to mention that it's relatively cheap to make.
I'm gonna skip the name calling.....
But the Russians said itherwise shortly after sfghanistn..... saw it on cbs back in the 900s
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Ok,point proven.Back to topic:
I just thought of another reason for implementing this
we could then use this image that surf made as a splash screen
(http://www.abload.de/img/akbrqki.png)
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But that might be as well the AK-112, commonly known as Assault Rifle in Fallout.
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To defense of TU, the AK clones cant be really considered quality in comparison to IzhMash.
Nevertheless, the design is widely spread.
Even Americans like it, you know "never jams, never break, never hit anything from 500 yards."
EXACTLY!!!!!!
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How about plasma gatling?))
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/668/plasmagatling.png)
I suggested it 2years ago,but seem's like nothing will change anyway)
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Piwuer's wet dream. Like APA as a prize. So it can never happen.
Oh wait....
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(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/668/plasmagatling.png)
Or sniper avenger!
(https://i.imgur.com/rb0zV.png)
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How about plasma gatling?))
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/668/plasmagatling.png)
I suggested it 2years ago,but seem's like nothing will change anyway)
keep dreaming ;D
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Or sniper avenger!
And how to you intend to burst-sniper properly without pushing the enemy back first?
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2522/fuckupl.png)
Fucking noobs these days...
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(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7549/pulse.png)
What about pulse gatling? (lol)
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This may seem obvious to others,but I just noticed that the avenger is a combination of the gatling and regular minigun sprite.
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(https://i.imgur.com/qVP1SP0.png)
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Not sure how the stats on this are any better than the current assault rifle.
http://www.nma-fallout.com/fallout_tactics/items/AK-47.shtml
It might be nice though to have some buff on Assault Rifle and FN FAL in comparison to say, Grease Gun and p90. Both of these latter guns have a overly strong burst capability with no disadvantage of using two hands (i.e. the assault rifles are more vulnerable to arm cripples).
Also might be nice to have some buffs to Sniper Rifles used by players, maybe some perk to add base damage. Or perhaps...perks for specializing in a single weapon.
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And how to you intend to burst-sniper properly without pushing the enemy back first?
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2522/fuckupl.png)
Fucking noobs these days...
We NEED this ingame ! Make AVV's and T888's wet dream come true!
(https://i.imgur.com/qVP1SP0.png)
Does it have scoped perk ?
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And how to you intend to burst-sniper properly without pushing the enemy back first?
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2522/fuckupl.png)
Fine idea, but why even burst with those petty 5mm bullets, if you could do it with AP rockets?
(https://i.cubeupload.com/NpguNk.gif)
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Fine idea, but why even burst with those petty 5mm bullets, if you could do it with AP rockets?
(https://i.cubeupload.com/NpguNk.gif)
OMG 40 ap rockets with eatch burst.its gona be very expensive to use.
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Fine idea, but why even burst with those petty 5mm bullets, if you could do it with AP rockets?
(https://i.cubeupload.com/NpguNk.gif)
And we are officially off the rails....
It cool and all, but silly.
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You don`t say?
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Fine idea, but why even burst with those petty 5mm bullets, if you could do it with AP rockets?
(https://i.cubeupload.com/NpguNk.gif)
AP rockets?
I didn't want to bring the heavy artillery into this but...
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8821/sledgenokia.png)
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You don`t say?
Actually I do...
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It is all silly and moot, including op... Though the scoped avenger-launcher is fricken awesome.