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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: jacky. on March 26, 2013, 10:22:48 am
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It isnt troll post but i would like to know when 2238 will be wiped. Tla mk2 is v good server and it is sucking away all players from other servers.
It is very stable server with nice features but i dont like walking. If devs dont want to Have 80people online they should think about wipe because 1.5year sesion is to much and as we wrote before fights are now only about pics on forum, nothing more. Think about this because u will Have empty server
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Soon.
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I hope in 2-3 months max
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Ah fuck, and i was about to gather all the BPs and find every rare vehicle.
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Jacky. J4cky rage master,when will you get it?
Wipe is pointless if there are no new features.
And it's not like the idea bucket is giving anything good.
Since player suggestions seem to have degraded incredibly.
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screw wipe, i don't wanna grind stuff all over again.
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i have everything i can get in this game. Pvp is boring when you have everything.
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Jacky. J4cky rage master,when will you get it?
Wipe is pointless if there are no new features.
And it's not like the idea bucket is giving anything good.
Since player suggestions seem to have degraded incredibly.
One day historians will looks back on the day I stopped contributing suggestions and say "this is when all hope was lost".
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One day historians will looks back on the day I stopped contributing suggestions and say "this is when all hope was lost".
You were the chosen one!
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Wipe will happen when we got an update ready which requires the server to be wiped.
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That's a great answer, and I hope there will be no wipe for some time, It's great time for some guys to estabilish their "game" there, because some players left to the TLAmk2, and left a place to gain experience in PVP.
Now small factions can try doing this, not being aware of getting asskicked by swarmers :P.
Also PVE and quests (for now) are pretty balanced and need only minor changes, so.... we're waiting for something BIG now ;- ).
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That's a great answer, and I hope there will be no wipe for some time, It's great time for some guys to estabilish their "game" there, because some players left to the TLAmk2, and left a place to gain experience in PVP.
Now small factions can try doing this, not being aware of getting asskicked by swarmers :P.
Also PVE and quests (for now) are pretty balanced and need only minor changes, so.... we're waiting for something BIG now ;- ).
This is actually the (almost) perfect time.More and more people are leaving to TLAmk2 because of it's promise of blackjack and hookers.Sooner or later they will start missing 2238.That,is the time the wipe should happen IMO.
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This is actually the (almost) perfect time.More and more people are leaving to TLAmk2 because of it's promise of blackjack and hookers.Sooner or later they will start missing 2238.That,is the time the wipe should happen IMO.
What then would wipe bring?
Still same problem remains:
Big faction will know how to get stuff, and they'll take Tree's earlier so they get free stuff.
Farming encounters like BoS or Enclave is brain crippled.
Ways to get bluerpints are annoying, not funny, and challenging.
Glow and Ares got broken and only veterans find stuff here, because they do it regulary.
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What then would wipe bring?
That,my friend,is the right question.
Since the game is begging to stagnate the new wipe will really need to be amazing for it to lure old and new players.
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<Insert random quote about server being dead/dying>
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wipe will brind 300+ people, not shity 100
i prefer 2238 than tla or requiem but now it is crap for me, no fun no goal.
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I think,this session is too long, so we have nothing other to do as pvp. Now we have all what we need so no interest to farm or craft. Not all players just play for pvp, and like killer rabbit said, wipe will bring people...A lot of players stop to play because the're is not much people on the server.
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Never El O El
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Probably sooner than never.
On the other side of the coin, if major devs decide they are done improving the server, or have no time to implement them, which give us no update/changelog, for 5 or 10 years, would they just wipe the server for the sake of wiping ? Do we need a wipe every year, or would we finally get a durable server, with no wipe ?
Wipe can attract players. But i also get that new player maybe afraid of investing their time in characters and bases, if they know it will disapear anyway. Especially if they are casual and may suffer wipe before obtaining what they need (or fulfill their goal)
Also, the post-wipe vibe has almost disapeared, as big gangs have everything (bases, high-tier stuff, lvl 24 char, etc...) within a week, and small gangs are forced to catch up quickly if they want to play in the same ground. A way around would be to nerf technology/level the first few month to keep the post-wipe vibe.
Otherwise, let's not wipe if not for big changes.
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Wipe is a lie !
Last wipe was the final wipe.
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wipe will brind 300+ people, not shity 100
i prefer 2238 than tla or requiem but now it is crap for me, no fun no goal.
What are 300 players worth, if they only stay for a few days and then disappear again?
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wpe now, becouse FODE need some new players (40 now)
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if will come wipe, so i would welcome such without months of testing bugs, but stable and then with incoming new things after each update (not corrections).
Maybe later means better.
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What are 300 players worth, if they only stay for a few days and then disappear again?
people are leaving because shity features or troll features, OR making this sesion hard ultra hard for newbiez.
crapy features :
- broken blueprints
- broken repair
- broken trading
- broken idler *but it has many defenders
- for over 1 year broken tc
- broken crafting (no one is crafting anything)
and after 1.5 year there is nothing to do and people get bored, becasue fights arent intresting when loot have same valuable as junk or fruits. pvp gangs are not playing on this serv becasue this sesion has nothing to offer. hundreds of drugs and armors and weapons. no one is doint tc for tc box because it is boring.
LEXX people are leaving this serv becaue we get bored of this sesion. i dont belive u dont have any other idea for next sesion so why dont focus on it? look at tla mk2, it had 50 players and now they have over 250. and i prefer 2238 over others rus servers but for fuck sake give us new sesion.
+bozar is special encounters
+basic bp from traders
+auction like in tla mk2
+new locations
+your ideas
*not jovB ideas, like tactic poo or removing radio dots, nor ss
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+your ideas
Dear God, no XD.
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I would like to see a wipe.
I would also like to see content added.
I would like to see merchants only sell items to players - never buy items from players.
I would very much like to see them drop that 3d model shit and focus on sprite art and incorporating Fallout Tactics' art and resources.
A man can dream.
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I would like to see a wipe.
I would also like to see content added.
I would like to see merchants only sell items to players - never buy items from players.
I would very much like to see them drop that 3d model shit and focus on sprite art and incorporating Fallout Tactics.
A man can dream.
All players would like that . But dont worry this season is about brahmin fix/update , maybe in next season.
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What are 300 players worth, if they only stay for a few days and then disappear again?
Tell me one good wipe when you didn't screw up and the server wasn't a complete mess?
Hmm, maybe that's why nobody stayed because they see a bugged, lagging game. Last wipe was a disaster, a complete failure, players from other servers come, inactive players, or active and they just see the mess you made and there is no motivation to stick around for a half year or a year to wait for you to fix anything and even then failure follows because not everything can be fixed in that time. The mess is that big.
Nobody of you seem to understand wipe necessity in a server with lack of end-game goals or anything that prolongs the players stay, creates a reason to play. Basically you fail to deliver a game where wipe isn't necessary, so excuse me that I completely ran out of things to do except mindlessly shooting players in towns and yeah ...
Polish server, do a wipe, some players will stay only because of the good quality and damage fixed of all exploits and what not, introduce something new, but not 1000 change of change-log you people can't handle after that.
Manage appropriately the game development, it doesn't have to be fast just appropriate, the changes relevant and not some cow shit for tactical shit picking off the ground and I wouldn't be here telling you anything or nobody else in matter of fact, you wouldn't have wrote what you did and this topic wouldn't even exist and so as many other.
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Yes JovankaB ideas r more then missed
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I like how people teach me on everything bad, while I just asked what sense it makes to wipe without any big game change being ready for release that would hold players for a longer time.
T-888, based on your logic, we should wipe the server every week.
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my point is this sesion is to long and it would be good if you will focus on new sesion.
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I like how people teach me on everything bad, while I just asked what sense it makes to wipe without any big game change being ready for release that would hold players for a longer time.
There's no point in wipes at all. I don't know any other mmo that deprives players from their entire possesions every 365 days or more. Imagine a wipe in EvE Online - I'm sure that would keep the people playing. Wipe is a bug and it should never happen again.
No, beta is not an excuse for wipes. If you keep a game in beta for 4 years then call it Duke Nukem 2238 already and make it official that it's not going to leave development hell ever.
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I like how people teach me on everything bad, while I just asked what sense it makes to wipe without any big game change being ready for release that would hold players for a longer time.
T-888, based on your logic, we should wipe the server every week.
I think people saying that they dont need HUGE changes and new features, they want new session with just few fixes here and there. Players want already to play stable server without bugs, they dont want new features which will bring much bugs again...
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T-888, based on your logic, we should wipe the server every week.
Based on my logic it should periodic until there isn't need for a wipe and every week is just an exaggeration. I'm not talking about updates which are impossible otherwise, but wipe is quite necessary to uphold some game play quality and again until it is not needed, but as I previously stated there isn't anything that holds players, there is no end-game goal and no, purely just some random stuff that gives us no more options for what to play or how to play is not going to make players stay. They will just come check, oh yeah few cool features, get bored of them and go away. Think town control, not in mindless pew-pew direction, but as an activity which provides some reason for players to play.
I guess you will throw more blunt statements and I'm just wasting my breath here as the game hasn't really ever improved, it just has been floating just barely above the water all the time and I don't expect you or anyone else here to suddenly understand your mistakes or ever again be motivated to do anything worthwhile with this project other than toy with it.
I like how people teach me on everything bad, while I just asked what sense it makes to wipe without any big game change being ready for release that would hold players for a longer time.
Uh no, you didn't say that, you are just throwing some careless and bold statements.
There's no point in wipes at all
I've seen wipes happen in games where their needed and there are games where their simply not needed, and 2238 is the game where wipe is a necessity due to how the game is designed.
I think people saying that they dont need HUGE changes and new features, they want new session with just few fixes here and there. Players want already to play stable server without bugs, they dont want new features which will bring much bugs again...
Exactly. Quality, stability, performance is key, not raw amount of content or how much shit you can count in the server someone calls features, because it will not count for anything if the game is lagging, is bugged and all the good solutions wasted. Good example was the new town control system they implemented a while ago, so much potential, but they just scrapped it, because nobody from them could present a working and stable version, it is so sad ...
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i must agree with skycast.
make good fixes and few small/med features.
chage bp system, change repair system, fix trading system, add auction system, give us new perks, rise level cap up to 28, give us new weapons and armors (you can change range, damage) like bozars, pulse rifles, pulse pistols or new weapons like in tla mk2, remove mercs and replace them with followers, add possibility to get resources from encounters like electronic parts, junk, metal parts using proper tools,change tc maps and tc zone, open v13 for pvp, and many others features you have in your head.
This session is too long and pvp players have nothing to do. I like this serv but if it won't hange we will stop playing it. Nr is empty, no one is doing tc...serv is dying
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Maybe now is a good time to add content, since players have gear to blow on new quests and storylines.
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i wonder when will devs start announcing this game anywhere. i found a same type of game (mod for single player game).. for fucking pokemon from gameboy with textures in 16x16 where all you can do is training pokemons.. and it has professional site, commercials and there is like 5000 players online if not more. it's free either. all you need is proper commercials to bring players to this game.
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all you need is proper commercials to bring players to this game.
Professional commercials cost money.
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Pokemon has tons of players because its a more popular franchise and its a better game, not because of adverts. Wiping won't fix the fact fonline isn't worth playing because the drastic changes needed will never come. You might get players back for a day until they see its the same crap as before. As for stability, its not really an issue. If the server still lags with 50 people online its not due to the cache.
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both games are fan made mods for single player games. fonline is much better. but it doesnt even have trailer video or anything except simple blog with last note from 1,5 year ago
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all you need is proper commercials to bring Bethesdas Lawyers to this game.
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This game is not new players friendly. Jovb is making this game even harder so u have ur answer.
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dont see any reason for wipe cause its instrument for adding real changes. But if they arent prepare you want to make wipe to get 500 people for maybe 2 weeks into game? They dont play cause game look like now look so after wipe game will be same so maybe this 500 its impossible to get there.
One question why you use too many forum accounts jacky? Cause ragemaster is banned?
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Holy jesus, this thread again? Move along, nothing to see there. You must be insane to think that after four years someone here will listen to players... those that did are long gone.
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Oh... It's THIS thread again... Guess I'll just walk away and hope someone locks it...
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There was similar player with similiar posts, grim - zilions nicks on forum, zilion ragequit posts.
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screw wipe, i don't wanna grind stuff all over again.
This.
If they're going to wipe, they should make it so that we require less builds and boring bluesuit levelling post-wipe to get stuff.
Sure running around with spears and raider loot is all fun and games, but in the end we're all greedy bastards who want dozens of bases filled with stuff and that will never change.
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There was similar player with similiar posts, grim - zilions nicks on forum, zilion ragequit posts.
I tried to get answers from devs if there is any hope for wipe in next months. I typed it isnt troll post but it happened again. Please lock this
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Wipe is like celebration to me
ps:Brujah your avatar is sick, bro I like
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Something i realy need to have explained is why PvP becomes for certain people uninteresting once you can't grief over opponents equipment anymore asuming said opponent has roughly the same amount of stuff horded in bases next to every town.
How does this affect you decissions, makes you even leave the server?
There should be more PvP not less. I just don't get it. You should be glad to see more action instead you start your mindless grinding on the next server all over.
It's even more hillarious than casuals hoping for the game to change by a simple reset.
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Problem is you dont have any reason for fighting cause you fight for tc locker for what? All have full bases and after two months of new session it will be same, must be some change in game after it - wipe.
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Yep, wipe is just a brief temporary solution to all our "problems" and should only be used if it's REALLY necessary to add some extremely neat new features.
Solution as usual for every game is moar places, moar st00fz to do and moar everything in a regular time period.
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The reason to fight is for me always the same: to fight.
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Maybe the issue should be mobilizing current player base, rather that bringing new people around. If they're gonna stick to playing fonline single player nothing will change. Apparently majority of people playing 2238 are casual players that can't afford the time required to gather gear needed to participate in pvp. Seems like the treshold is set to high, and these people will just avoid interaction with other players, because they have too much to risk. Ideally if you have 2 hours of free time for playing at the evening you should be able to spend most of it on interacting with other players with some minor time wasted on farming. Obviously, right now its not the case. If you're new player you're gonna loose your stuff frequently, and if obtaining it takes most of your time, well you'll just probably resign before you will get the grasp on how the things work. Besides, players outside big factions have almost no access to drugs, other that cigarettes.
100 people is more than enough to have fun, but some changes need to be done, to allow more players to partcipate fully in what the game has to offer.
tl;dr - reduce grind to utilize the more casual part of the playerbase and bring more people to the game
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I allready said that, more friendly game for newcomers = more people. But devs want to make this game even harder and harder for solo and newbiez. Pvp gangs will always get their stuff no matter what so they should think how to inprowe game for "Ncr idlers"
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It isnt troll post but i would like to know when 2238 will be wiped. Tla mk2 is v good server and it is sucking away all players from other servers.
It is very stable server with nice features but i dont like walking. If devs dont want to Have 80people online they should think about wipe because 1.5year sesion is to much and as we wrote before fights are now only about pics on forum, nothing more. Think about this because u will Have empty server
I guess,SOON.
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DEV's we're waiting for a wipe to crawl out of our caves and unleash chaos and hatred to spread it across the Wastes.
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DEV's we're waiting for a wipe to crawl out of our caves and unleash chaos and hatred to spread it across the Wastes.
And please tell me what will that wipe bring?Other then the eradication of all items.
What?New features?What features?
New players maybe?Perhaps but there is a lot of crap being thrown at this game everywhere and the whole lack of advertisement is kind a bullet to the knee.
Old players back?Nope,since they all seem to be stuck and TLAmk2.
So honestly,whats the point?(other then the eradication of all items)
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wipe server
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CS, why you're bitching so much? We Klamath City Rockers got few experienced players and mostly newbies and we can start timer with 10 people, and you so pr0 player cannot gather few others to do the same?
You're just a noob and forum fighter with no future, get lost.
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Killing guards seem's to be fun for bored gm's but looks like they are too lazy to clean their own shit after that...
Maybe killed by guards in NCR for no reason is fun too for them...
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Holy jesus, this thread again? Move along, nothing to see there. You must be insane to think that after four years someone here will listen to players... those that did are long gone.
Im still here so that means....
Still, so very fucking true, T888, you go keep wasting your breath for all of them, they seem to give a shit and all