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Title: New base
Post by: Fewer on March 27, 2010, 11:34:42 pm
There is description of new base call Gasstation camp
It cost 50k in Redding
So
here is bar with destilator and waterpump
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9226/screen27032010230506.jpg) (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/screen27032010230506.jpg/)
here is main building with PC 3 locker in wall,workbench,bookshelf and 1 locker
(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2982/screen27032010230533.jpg) (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/screen27032010230533.jpg/)
There is tent with 2 lockers and bed(?)
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7788/screen27032010230555.jpg) (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/screen27032010230555.jpg/)
2nd tent with locker
(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/5691/screen27032010230608.jpg) (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/screen27032010230608.jpg/)
tent for doing some meat
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4945/screen27032010230623.jpg) (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/screen27032010230623.jpg/)
plants for fiber and fruit
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9679/screen27032010230629.jpg) (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/screen27032010230629.jpg/)
4th tent with crate
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5860/screen27032010230636.jpg) (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/screen27032010230636.jpg/)


There is not brahmin pen but 10 containers (with tool board)
This can help you choose the base and i think that this is a best base
Goodbye
/sorry for english/





Title: Re: New base
Post by: Zorndyke on March 28, 2010, 03:25:51 am
thanks for your work :)  anyone have the other new bases ?
Title: Re: New base
Post by: West on March 28, 2010, 02:38:32 pm
there is no wood ?
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Fewer on March 28, 2010, 03:01:28 pm
no you must find it somewhere
Title: Re: New base
Post by: shinglaifs on March 28, 2010, 07:04:37 pm
Just a tip,
Be4 the wipe, I had experience two times that i bought a new base, move my stuff in, log out, and login another day, discover things got stolen.
Was sure there were no betrayal or someone followed any of me or my members.
And GM helped to fixed the problem, since we discovered that there are others not in the faction able to see the base on the world map.

So put Mercs, just don't assume it is safe.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Resp on March 29, 2010, 08:28:28 am
is not a bug
just be careful when buying
someone can stood behind you
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Florek on March 30, 2010, 10:46:56 am
Looking best economical base. :) Just 50k and we have fibers on north. :D
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Jack_Fr on March 31, 2010, 01:38:47 am
Excuse me but, which npc sells you this base ? My gang is looking for new bases but we didn't found this one in Redding, we have only 2 choices : 30k and 70k.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Fewer on March 31, 2010, 08:12:55 am
say him that u want that for 70k and if u havent 70k he will say you about new base for 50k
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Jack_Fr on March 31, 2010, 10:31:03 am
Damn ! I've never thought that new bases could be add in game like that. So, thank you for the information.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: JohnyT on April 02, 2010, 03:48:36 pm
Be warned, that if you want to buy this base, you have to retake the town from the controlling gang. Because they have campers and lots of guards there. Sounds unfair to me, because you even do not have a faction for the job.
Kinda sucks when you learn it the hard way... :(
Title: Re: New base
Post by: JovankaB on April 02, 2010, 03:59:14 pm
All new bases are mentioned on http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Bases page now (scroll down to the bottom of the page).

Trapper camp:
(http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/images/4/40/Base-trapper-camp.jpg) (http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/images/4/40/Base-trapper-camp.jpg)

Gasstation camp:
(http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/images/f/f2/Base-gasstation-camp.jpg) (http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/images/f/f2/Base-gasstation-camp.jpg)

Old bunker:
(http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/images/6/6a/Base-old-bunker-outside.jpg) (http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/images/6/6a/Base-old-bunker-outside.jpg)

(http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/images/3/3b/Base-old-bunker-inside.jpg) (http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/images/3/3b/Base-old-bunker-inside.jpg)
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Zorndyke on April 02, 2010, 04:04:54 pm
nice work jovanka :) thx
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Winston Wolf on April 02, 2010, 04:19:22 pm
2 questions:

Is the quest only available for people who aren't in a faction? I have a beer in my inventory but I can't give it to him.
Is the base for free after you have made the quest or do you still have to pay?
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Lexx on April 02, 2010, 04:20:58 pm
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Is the quest only available for people who aren't in a faction? I have a beer in my inventory but I can't give it to him.

The quest just activated the base seller. You can do it whenever you want to. The beer is bought via dialog screen.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Winston Wolf on April 02, 2010, 05:41:31 pm
Im at Necropolis right now and I have a little problem. I found a ghul who knows something about the guy I'm looking for, but he moved, the dialog window closed and now I can't talk to him anymore. The other ghouls won't talk to me neither. Can I talk to them later again or can I forget the quest?
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Alfa on April 02, 2010, 06:35:39 pm
Where is the guy who give the quest please ? For the old bunker.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Frozen Mind on April 02, 2010, 06:39:43 pm
People used to buy few bases (to have safe access to resources and few more places to store equipment around the world) and because of that more of the faction names are restricted. Why not to allow factions to have up to X own places on the world map?
Title: Re: New base
Post by: lomzig on April 06, 2010, 06:51:26 am
abandoned bunker costs 500 000 is this a mistake or ...?
it seems comparable to gas station, but it sure is expensive... helluva expensive... and when you think that you could have bases all around the world and a spare outpost...

pay tell me its a bug, say it was meant to be 50k, hell, i think 60 would be ok too.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Lexx on April 06, 2010, 12:28:47 pm
The price of the bases depends on the amount of lockers and containers in the map. The abandoned bunker has a lot of them and a lot free room.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Vanessa on April 06, 2010, 12:34:35 pm
That makes no sense, the cave only has 3 containers and costs the same as the depot, and the depot has 9. And much more space.

Scrapheap has 7 and costs 70k.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Caelan on April 06, 2010, 12:37:18 pm
Maybe its because the depot is harder to defend?
Title: Re: New base
Post by: blahblah on April 06, 2010, 12:39:11 pm
It's a bunker. An abandoned frickin bunker. They don't grown on trees. Nobody forces you to buy it. The price, IMO, is adequate to the amount of prestige you get for having a big-ass bunker for your base.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: JohnyT on April 06, 2010, 12:43:00 pm
But it has very few in-base resources.
I guess, the price should incorporate that...
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Lexx on April 06, 2010, 12:47:17 pm
That makes no sense, the cave only has 3 containers and costs the same as the depot, and the depot has 9. And much more space.

Check out the Brahmins you get with the base. These have influence on the prices as well.

Beside this: The cave just has one entrance, the depot has a lot.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Wichura on April 06, 2010, 12:48:14 pm
Maybe its because the depot is harder to defend?
Why? There is only one entrance in depot's main building, same as cave. There are no windows, such as in cave. Where is the difference in defending both? Is there any hidden air-strike feature to carpet bomb whole depot?

Price of bunker is not a mistake, I checked - guy wants 500k caps, no more no less. Is it worth? Piece of luxury in the Wastes needs to be expensive. It might have chemicals source instead of second electronic parts, but what else? HQ mine on lower level? Junk barrel? Trees? Nigga, please, sometimes it is refreshing to move outside base.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: trader on April 06, 2010, 12:48:46 pm
That makes no sense, the cave only has 3 containers and costs the same as the depot, and the depot has 9. And much more space.

Scrapheap has 7 and costs 70k.

And you forgot that cave have 2 maps and depo only 1 :D
Title: Re: New base
Post by: JohnyT on April 06, 2010, 01:17:28 pm
One one more click when entering / exiting and one loading time - thats inconvenience from my point of view, not something usefull.
Btw, cave has two maps too, but it is a bit cheaper :)
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Berko on April 06, 2010, 01:29:00 pm
Hum for Cave Vs Depot, 2 small maps against 1 big, I thinks at the end they have almost the same surface (usable area)

But yeah the cave look poor if we compare it with the other 30k base (the depot)
No wood, no flint, no junk, less container but hum ..
-It may be more than 1 people to use the workbench
-We can use the first map to protect the second one with mercenary/slave (the 1st map become useless)

For the second point, it's difficult because not enough container or usable area in the second map (the cave) so we use the first map (exterior of cave) like we do with tent : deposit on the ground like an outdoor container. But with that solution it's the same as the depot, majority of our stuff is in the first map with our mercenary.

But .. it's a cave! If we love it we pay it :)
Title: Re: New base
Post by: MR_YUCK on May 07, 2010, 10:44:50 pm
Be warned, that if you want to buy this base, you have to retake the town from the controlling gang. Because they have campers and lots of guards there. Sounds unfair to me, because you even do not have a faction for the job.
Kinda sucks when you learn it the hard way... :(

Can you please explain in detail?
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Sius on May 07, 2010, 11:44:43 pm
I find hideouts kinda badly executed feature. It has few main problems:

- base = gang
- you can't own multiple bases under 1 gang name
- you can't choose (or at least specify) the area where you want your base

Bases are not worth the money not even a little bit. You don't know what you are buying (newcomers won't know what the hell the depo is or what it offers and there is no way how to find that out ingame other than buy it or hope that some kind soul will tell you). And even when you know what you are paying for you can only guess where it will spawn. Simple thing in dialogue such as:

A: "Ah you are looking for a hideout for you and your friends eh? I might have just the right thing for ya! Recently I've discovered one nice little cave myself. Its east from here, just about 6 kilometers away. Very well hidden in mountains. Or maybe you would like something more settle, hmm?"
B: "Tell me more about the cave you've discovered."
A: " **telling price/containers/base size/position/resources info** "

And if trapper don't offer base in location that you desire you can always come back later and try if he has not discovered anything new, that might have attract you more.

Anyway its these 3 problems that cause every gang base to be the same, making the expensive ones literary worth nothing. Even with the worst base you can keep players/stuff safe, have place to craft, create gang and only real difference between bases are resources they offer. Lockers are useless since you can't put much in them and even all containers from all base types together would not supply enough room for stuff that regular gang (=5+ active members) needs for every day life.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Vindict on September 01, 2010, 12:09:19 pm
yeah, you should be able to buy a base with specified location without having a faction. also, you should be able to form a gang without buying a base
Title: Re: New base
Post by: gordulan on September 01, 2010, 01:52:17 pm
specially with the new movement system...
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Elvis on September 28, 2010, 09:11:00 am
 If you do buy a base for yourself, don't just add people, Really trust your friends. One of my longest base users, stole everything more then once, and there was no way to tell it was her, she did this for over a year. you can't trust anyone.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: SIGISMUND on March 13, 2011, 03:27:59 pm
I got tha bunker recently man I was so excited when I first got it I was like wow, but I was very dissapointed cuz none of the resources written on wiki are available.The bunker in my opinion its just a bigger underground tent nothing more.Atleast the location was good its 5 squares bellow Necropolis.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Lexx on March 13, 2011, 03:41:47 pm
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none of the resources written on wiki are available

Explain. Nothing changed with the bunker, so everything should be there.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: SIGISMUND on March 13, 2011, 03:48:25 pm
I can't get electronic parts tryed mining nothing.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: TheGreenHand on March 13, 2011, 06:26:38 pm
I can't get electronic parts tryed mining nothing.

That's wrong, the bunker has both.  You can only mine at a few of the rock piles up front.  And with electronic parts, there's a computer to gather them in the medical area (if it were a vault) and one somewhere else.  The map should be right on wiki.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Vaimortal on March 13, 2011, 07:12:02 pm
I find hideouts kinda badly executed feature. It has few main problems:

- base = gang
- you can't own multiple bases under 1 gang name
- you can't choose (or at least specify) the area where you want your base

Bases are not worth the money not even a little bit. You don't know what you are buying (newcomers won't know what the hell the depo is or what it offers and there is no way how to find that out ingame other than buy it or hope that some kind soul will tell you). And even when you know what you are paying for you can only guess where it will spawn. Simple thing in dialogue such as:

A: "Ah you are looking for a hideout for you and your friends eh? I might have just the right thing for ya! Recently I've discovered one nice little cave myself. Its east from here, just about 6 kilometers away. Very well hidden in mountains. Or maybe you would like something more settle, hmm?"
B: "Tell me more about the cave you've discovered."
A: " **telling price/containers/base size/position/resources info** "

And if trapper don't offer base in location that you desire you can always come back later and try if he has not discovered anything new, that might have attract you more.

Anyway its these 3 problems that cause every gang base to be the same, making the expensive ones literary worth nothing. Even with the worst base you can keep players/stuff safe, have place to craft, create gang and only real difference between bases are resources they offer. Lockers are useless since you can't put much in them and even all containers from all base types together would not supply enough room for stuff that regular gang (=5+ active members) needs for every day life.

This man speaks the truth.

I have played MMO's for years now and there is one thing i have learned , less random game means .... well it is much better.
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Lexx on March 13, 2011, 07:33:09 pm
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This man speaks the truth.

Is he jesus?
Title: Re: New base
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 13, 2011, 07:34:09 pm
Is he jesus?
The one and only son of god!  :D


...Or that mexican "virgin" in the back of the bar...