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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Survival Guides / Game Help => Topic started by: Lacan on March 27, 2010, 04:10:35 pm
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i read something about trains; And I've never heard of this feature... nothing on Wiki for now.
Can somebody tell us more about it ? Where from, where to ? Price , limitations ?
Any info is welcome, thanks;
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to start using train go to vault city talk to doctor andrews and ask for job. He will show you a way to vc train station and give quest. Lets leave quest for now, but in train station you can buy ticket for 100 caps and then reveal other train stations on map. There are 4 train stations, 1 in VC, 1 in NCR, 1 in Boneyard, 1 in San Francisco.
You can ride between these train stations:
From VC to NCR
From NCR to VC or boneyard
From Boneyard to NCR or SF
From SF to Boneyard.
One thing you should know, that you can jump out of train in middle of ride. I think thats all you need to know.
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As nice as the quest probably is, I think these would get a lot more use if they were visible from the start, and the quest just gave you a discount.
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As nice as the quest probably is, I think these would get a lot more use if they were visible from the start, and the quest just gave you a discount.
The idea is to make the player do something to get something. This will not change. I want to get rid of the "giving players everything from the beginning". That's why Sierra is invisible by default or the toxic caves, etc... Expect something more in future.
There are three quests spread in the game world, which can activate the stations for you. You just have to do some quest (two don't even need to be finished).
That's - by the way - the reason why I was a tad amused when someone wrote, he thinks quests are shit and he ignores it. :p
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The idea is to make the player do something to get something. This will not change. I want to get rid of the "giving players everything from the beginning". That's why Sierra is invisible by default or the toxic caves, etc... Expect something more in future.
No doubt, then perhaps I'd suggest making the locations appear on the map, but the trains unrideable until they've done the quest. My concern is that people won't know that the quest (or trains) exist unless they're told about it or read the wiki.
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You can ride between these train stations:
From VC to NCR
From NCR to VC or boneyard
From Boneyard to NCR or SF
From SF to Boneyard.
That aint right :/ I was trying to go to VC from NCR, but I could only get on trains to boneyard, that then whent to SF, that whent back to boneyard then to NCR THEN BACK TO BONEYARD! Then I waited in NCR station for the boneyard train to leave... and the next train.. Guess where that train whent to... BONEYARD!
edit: Wiii finally found a train to VC... that goes in 8 hours xD
uhm I just had a little wtf moment. I talked to the conductor in NCR at 00:24 she then said that there would be a train to Vault City at 08:00. So to beat some time I move some boxes and deposited the money in NCR, goes back to the station and talks to the conductor. Then the clock was 02:00 and she said that the next train will come at 10:00 and go to boneyard... but when I got to 03:40 there was a train that.. whent somewhere, boneyard is my guess and when that whent she kept on talking about the 10:00 train so I'm just gonna wait for 08:00 to see if there will be a train for VC... brb with report :P
clock is 05:30 and now she started to talk about the 08:00 train to VC >.<
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edit: Wiii finally found a train to VC... that goes in 8 hours xD
This. It's 10pm and the next train to the NCR is 9am.
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edit: Wiii finally found a train to VC... that goes in 8 hours xD
you see :D
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The train isn't moving in circles. It is going a-b-c-d-c-b-a-b-c-...
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The train isn't moving in circles. It is going a-b-c-d-c-b-a-b-c-...
Could you make them run a lot more often? I walked to NCR and back, and my train to the NCR still hasn't come.
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The train is already very fast. Also it's 100% save travel, without any encounter.
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The train isn't moving in circles. It is going a-b-c-d-c-b-a-b-c-...
well I was more annoyed that it displayed odd times :/ Like at 00:00 it showed the train to VC at 08:00 and when the clock was like 02:00 or something it showed the train to boneyard at 10:00.
The abcdcba function I understood before, its just the timetable that messes with me >.<
btw do i like 90 science to get high quality iron ore, couse I got 80 and I couldnt gather any at the mine near VC //checked wiki, sorry for asking
//and damn please make an image for the ticket, i lost mine without knowing it xD
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Thanks for info, great feature;
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The idea is to make the player do something to get something. This will not change. I want to get rid of the "giving players everything from the beginning". That's why Sierra is invisible by default or the toxic caves, etc... Expect something more in future.
This is great idea m8!
I literally love it. I'm done with games that are easy to play. It's boring after 10 minutes. Thanks to this approach players are going have to talk about the game in game.. do quests and so on.. There will be new features to discover, not just to play.
And I've got the train earlier - I just went for a walk around the VC.
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(...) and damn please make an image for the ticket, i lost mine without knowing it xD
It is already fixed, run updater.
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And fix another feature, when you are for example in boneyard station, and you came just as train arrived, when you ask when is the next train arrives, conductor says: "the train is here waiting are you blind", but he doesnt say where the train is going, well you need to san francisco, you think you are lucky today and 50% is good enough to risk, you sit in train, ulala you are in ncr instead of sf. So it would be really cool if devs could change dialogue option "the train is here waiting are you blind" with "the train to san francisco (or other station) is here waiting are you blind" thanks for attention :>
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This is already fixed as well. Just waiting for the update.
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Thanks!
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Where is the conductor in NCR ?
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Where is the conductor in NCR ?
female in metal armor
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As if there only is one female in metal armor in NCR? :P
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As if there only is one female in metal armor in NCR? :P
train station is near ncr not in.
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And she's the only female in metal armor there. But you could also say "in metal armor and with yellow pants".
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The train conductor is still wrong; at least in NCR.
When the train's not here, she tells you for example : "it goes to Vault city";
if you ask when the train is here, you can ask : "where is it going next ?"
The conductor always answers the wrong way around : "its going to Boneyard"...
While it's the same train.
Now I know where it's going by doing reverse psychology ; It's working I guess :)
EDIT : This is only really happening when the train is headed for Vault city. When the train is headed for Boneyard, she gets it right !
+ conductor in Boneyard train station mixes it up when the train is here and its going to NCR : "its going to San Francisco"
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The train conductor is still wrong; at least in NCR.
When the train's not here, she tells you for example : "it goes to Vault city";
if you ask when the train is here, you can ask : "where is it going next ?"
The conductor always answers the wrong way around : "its going to Boneyard"...
While it's the same train.
Now I know where it's going by doing reverse psychology ; It's working I guess :)
EDIT : This is only really happening when the train is headed for Vault city. When the train is headed for Boneyard, she gets it right !
+ conductor in Boneyard train station mixes it up when the train is here and its going to NCR : "its going to San Francisco"
i can confirm this information :>
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Why chars with 1 CH cannot start the quest in VC? Dont tried Mentats yet but i could bet you need another Dose to buy the tickets...
Most new quest i tried you need no CH, why here? It is an important feature that everybody should have access to.
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psst,
you just need to get someone to bring you to train station, and then take train. Stations you visit by train become visible on World map.
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This works as well. But jumping the quests is silly, imo. You loose xp from that.
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i cant use the train!
After the message "you sit down in the train...."
I get " You need aditional ticket for your companions"
But i havent companions with me.... :P
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This works as well. But jumping the quests is silly, imo. You loose xp from that.
Isn't it like 200xp?
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None of the so called train introducing quests gives only 200xp.
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None of the so called train introducing quests gives only 200xp.
300 per station then? Maybe 400?
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You don't get xp, if you visit the station per se. You get xp for the quest.
Also 2 of 3 train introducing quests are not very hard. So don't expect to get 3000 experience points. And don't expect 2000xp for a Nuka Cola.
/Edit: Just checked it again. Every of these gives at least 1000xp. One even gives much more under special conditions.
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you get 100 exp per station, and 400 exp and 5 stimpacks once you return, its written on wiki :>
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Don't trust everything in the wiki. Beside this, it's only one of three possible quests.
Additionally, my quests have various rewards, depending on special conditions, which are not named in the wiki.
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Don't trust everything in the wiki. Beside this, it's only one of three possible quests.
He means he increased the reward and didn't tell us. Shhhh.
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Why the only original train station of FO2 in east Reno don't have a connection to the NCR railway system. (of course NCR does not yet have control over Reno) But it would make perfect sense and also the ambition of NCR if the train goes round trip from VC-NCR-BY-SF-Reno-VC for the 1 valuable train.
Perhaps it is up to the player to finish some quests and close up the great railway circle.
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He means he increased the reward and didn't tell us. Shhhh.
No. For the silly ones: I mean that the reward written there is wrong since a while. And it's not the only one. Additionally to this, we don't want to have 100% exact quest descriptions in the wiki, as it just leads players to "level up tutorials". If we would want this, we could simply add thousands of "bring me x and I give you lotsa xp"-quests.
Why the only original train station of FO2 in east Reno don't have a connection to the NCR railway system.
It's rundown and not in working condition.
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He means he increased the reward and didn't tell us. Shhhh.
nah i did quest myself reward written in wiki is correct :>
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No. For the silly ones: I mean that the reward written there is wrong since a while.
nah i did quest myself reward written in wiki is correct :>
Oh. Well.
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You really got 5 stimpaks?
/Edit: That's what a part of my file says:
(http://www.imagebanana.com/img/1ihbsz1l/thumb/Bild1.png) (http://www.imagebanana.com/view/1ihbsz1l/Bild1.png)
Oh. Well.
/Edit²: That's not all possible rewards, btw. There are some more stat based variables.
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That's what a part of my file says:
Your file that definitely hasn't already been changed twice already today, right?
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Yes. It's not touched since shortly after the wipe.
Anyway, I don't have to discuss this with you. I know that parts of the wiki is wrong, if you believe it or not, is not up to me. Taking a break now and will not be very active in the next time, so. See ya later.
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yes i really got 5 stimpacks. its 100%, he even gave a short dialogue about medical supplies.
By the way Lexx small suggestion, i see you like when players need to discover locations. Make Navarro hidden, and discovered through salvatore or something. Even the chosen one couldnt see this base!
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Ok, checked it again and found a error in one dialog node. Will fix it for the next update.
About Navarro, we will see.
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Wiki is fulfilled with correct informations, but not all the informations. That's all ! =)
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this table works great man. But conductor is buggy. We went on 00:00 to ask when is next train in vault city train station, and he said that its on 9:00. But it arrived on 3:00 as written on table...
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Yeah, he also sometimes show destination incorrect but with table you should have no problems with getting to where you wanna go.