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Title: critical miss/ew-jinxed?
Post by: JEBUS on December 24, 2012, 12:31:50 pm
so i've been playing with a few jinxed alts for a while but their all had 10 luck one small guns, one throwing and one ew and i have noticed that their is diffent levels of critical miss punishments for each type, which i thought was based on luck and not what type of weapon using
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with small guns i only dropped my gun or lost ammo
with throwing i only threw a dud or dropped my throw weapon 
with ew i almost every time, drop my gun, hurt myself, and lost turn all at once? same 10 luck is this normal? is this a bug? dose critical miss severity also factor with weapon type and not just luck? is this the right place to post this question? dose any one know how it factors with big guns, will Josef ever come out of the coma?!?!?!?!?

http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Luck
Title: Re: critical miss/ew-jinxed?
Post by: Enzotainment on December 24, 2012, 12:40:06 pm
so i've been playing with a few jinxed alts for a while but their all had 10 luck one small guns, one throwing and one ew and i have noticed that their is diffent levels of critical miss punishments for each type, which i thought was based on luck and not what type of weapon using
ie
with small guns i only dropped my gun or lost ammo
with throwing i only threw a dud or dropped my throw weapon 
with ew i almost every time, drop my gun, hurt myself, and lost turn all at once? same 10 luck is this normal? is this a bug? dose critical miss severity also factor with weapon type and not just luck? is this the right place to post this question? dose any one know how it factors with big guns, will Josef ever come out of the coma?!?!?!?!?

http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Luck

Missing with an EW is more severe than missing with SG or BG. Even with 10 luck, many misses will be crit misses and you'll see more turns lost and weapon drops than you're used to with SG ;)
Title: Re: critical miss/ew-jinxed?
Post by: Boon Lived on December 24, 2012, 12:54:36 pm
Depending on the weapon is what happens when you critically miss.

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same 10 luck is this normal? is this a bug?
Luck lowers the chance for a crit fail, but im not sure it does too much in deciding what happens.
The chance you have to critically fail could also have an effect on it, so Jinxed may play a part on that too.

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Missing with an EW is more severe than missing with SG or BG. Even with 10 luck, many misses will be crit misses and you'll see more turns lost and weapon drops than you're used to with SG
I beleive thats because Energy Weapons have more effects than regular guns. A laser rifle will blow up on you but a BB gun wont.

Do grenades have a chance to explode on you? I thought i saw something like that before.
Title: Re: critical miss/ew-jinxed?
Post by: Cyber Jesus on December 24, 2012, 12:57:00 pm
Do grenades have a chance to explode on you? I thought i saw something like that before.
No but they have a chance to miss and explode right near you which is basically the same.
Title: Re: critical miss/ew-jinxed?
Post by: JEBUS on December 24, 2012, 01:35:04 pm
aw, so that is normal.... why is that normal ?_?    seems like a weird way to balance ew wpn's if that is why it is like that. so jinxed+ew=impossible/ very very bad build? dose chance to hit go beyond the stated 95%, even at 95% it seems like you miss more then 1/20 shots

from wiki
 Luck stat in combat

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When pulling the trigger all luck provides is higher critical hit chance. When you're on the damage receiving end your luck just affects chance to not receive bypass (higher your luck - lesser chance to receive bypass). Also when you critically miss lower luck means more severe critical miss.
is dropping weapon and losing turn the least severe critical miss for ew, why isn't it lose ammo OR drop weapon like sg and im guessing bg ' bg based on Enzotainment statement'

in reply to Boon Lived
from wiki
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The more a weapon is deteriorated, the more it has chance to score critical failure when shooting.

There is 1% chance per 5% deterioration for a miss to be upgraded to a critical miss.
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i also have jinxed which bumps it up to 50% chance every miss + wpn deterioration/5=chance to critical miss

not really sure if wiki is correct or not

Title: Re: critical miss/ew-jinxed?
Post by: TKs-KaBoom on December 24, 2012, 10:04:28 pm
KaBoom!  there went another laser rifle in your hands!  Ah, such fun!
Title: Re: critical miss/ew-jinxed?
Post by: Roachor on December 25, 2012, 03:15:20 am
Yeah the crit fail for bg, ew and nades are the worst. Fyi a nade can explode in your hand.
Title: Re: critical miss/ew-jinxed?
Post by: JEBUS on December 25, 2012, 07:42:07 am
how dose crit miss work for burst? in fact can i get an explanation of bursting, as i thought that the stated chance to hit affects each bullet in a burst and not the whole burst, is that true? and if it is true when you miss based on each bullet how dose crit miss affect that? as long as one of the bullets hit it won't be a miss right? i cant find anything about in wiki
Title: Re: critical miss/ew-jinxed?
Post by: TKs-KaBoom on December 25, 2012, 08:05:23 am
how dose crit miss work for burst? in fact can i get an explanation of bursting, as i thought that the stated chance to hit affects each bullet in a burst and not the whole burst, is that true? and if it is true when you miss based on each bullet how dose crit miss affect that? as long as one of the bullets hit it won't be a miss right? i cant find anything about in wiki
Um, just play the game and you will easily "figure" it out....