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Title: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: foonlinecurious on December 15, 2012, 09:51:02 pm

going to have the toughness perks, and bonus ranged damage
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8310/bgbuild1.jpg

Not sure if kamikaze is a good trait, maybe I should swap it out for chem resilient so I wont get addicted to drugs?
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: racoon on December 15, 2012, 10:04:38 pm
luck is too high
kamikaze is bad trait
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: foonlinecurious on December 15, 2012, 10:20:57 pm
Ok, il swap out kamikaze for chem resilient so no drug addiction,
and bring luck down to 3, giving me 2 points to spare, so do i put it on STR, INT  or PERception?
( oh and for perks get weapon handling)
I am thinking divide the two points between int, and perc bringing it to
STR  4
PER  7
END  10
CHA  1
INT   6 
AGI  10
LUC  3
Small frame
Chem resil
Toughness 1-2
Weapon handling
Bonus ranged dmg


ok any problems here? should i not spread out my last 2 points? maybe just stack em on PER?
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: greenthumb on December 15, 2012, 11:38:30 pm
are you gona use this alt for PVP actions only? are you gona use drugs? What weapon are you gona use ? Do you prefer tanky build or ratata build?

EDIT
use nitue.net for planing and sharing your builds.
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: foonlinecurious on December 15, 2012, 11:57:39 pm
PVP ( which was in the topic of the thread)
DRugs if i can get em, no drugs if i dont have em. ( which is the reason for chem resilient)
Probably mini guns, and rockets. ( mostly mini gun cuz I dont want to friendly fire or kill myself)
I prefer ratata with a little bit of survivability but id rather kill quicker.
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: Roachor on December 16, 2012, 02:27:22 am
chem resistant makes stims worthless and without stims you cant pvp.
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: foonlinecurious on December 16, 2012, 03:34:57 am
Dohhhh!  but I don't want to be addicted T_T
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: Ganado on December 16, 2012, 04:01:45 am
Why are you afraid of being addicted? The only thing that lasts forever is Jet, and it is pretty easy to get. Most builds aren't "sometimes" drugs builds anyway. You either are a drug build, or you aren't.
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: Brujah on December 16, 2012, 04:16:43 am
Unless you have A LOT of each drug in-game, lots of equipment (lots) and you're willing to level at least 3 PVP alts I'd advice you to stay away from PVP for now.


No such thing as being afraid to get addicted, PVP builds use drugs, period.


Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: foonlinecurious on December 16, 2012, 05:18:22 am
I was afraid of an answer like that -.-
Fine, than im a drug build, pretty lame not to be one right? the ones who own are the ones hyped up on fun-fun juice.

So considering that, is it good ? or need some tweaking still?
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: vinio on December 16, 2012, 09:38:36 am
Quote from: Brujah on December 16, 2012, 04:16:43 am
Unless you have A LOT of each drug in-game, lots of equipment (lots) and you're willing to level at least 3 PVP alts I'd advice you to stay away from PVP for now.


No such thing as being afraid to get addicted, PVP builds use drugs, period.

omg brujah 3 pvp alts?just say the truth dont be shy .10 + mb?
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: Mike Crosser on December 16, 2012, 10:53:31 am
Quote from: vinio on December 16, 2012, 09:38:36 am
omg brujah 3 pvp alts?just say the truth dont be shy .10 + mb?

This is the sole reason I don't want to get into PvP.
I mean how do you level 10+ alts without getting so sick of this game that you don't ever want to look at the desktop icon?I don't know,is it the "I need win,I need be best" human instinct,or whatever,that is driving you to waste so much time?
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: racoon on December 16, 2012, 11:49:35 am
Quote from: foonlinecurious on December 15, 2012, 10:20:57 pm
Ok, il swap out kamikaze for chem resilient so no drug addiction,


its a waste. just take another trait and just simply dont take any drugs. no addictions
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: Brujah on December 16, 2012, 02:09:24 pm
Quote from: vinio on December 16, 2012, 09:38:36 am
omg brujah 3 pvp alts?just say the truth dont be shy .10 + mb?

I never needed 10 PVP alts, unless you're counting scouts, looters and trolls among those PVP alts.
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: The DUDE on December 16, 2012, 04:58:32 pm
completely off topic but props on your santa hat abe. i laugh every time i see it
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: Ganado on December 16, 2012, 05:02:54 pm
Yep, thanks, Gob did a good job making hats for everyone.
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: greenthumb on December 16, 2012, 05:05:06 pm
Back to topic:

i planned for you M60 crit burster build since you wished ratata build, minigun is good with 3xBRD but you cant make it with survivability and ratata together, si you ll use M60.
You ll be using combination of Jet,psycho, buffout, nuka cola,cigs  and Chem reliant(not resistant) so you ll be permanently addicted to all drugs what makes you total junky but also good PVP build. You ll be using all 5 drugs which are buyable from me, dont worry it will be like 1200 caps for dose, or for one TC or for one reno action ;P.

http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=7386&pass=lolo

EDIT:

for healing you ll be using tons of SS of course, which are buyable from me too ;)
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: vinio on December 16, 2012, 05:06:14 pm
bah not so difficult to make 10 pvp alts.especially for experienced players.and brujah i may exaggerate a little for the 10pvp alts but i know and u know that already many players have them in their arsenal.
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: foonlinecurious on December 16, 2012, 06:56:20 pm
Quote from: greenthumb on December 16, 2012, 05:05:06 pm
Back to topic:

i planned for you M60 crit burster build since you wished ratata build, minigun is good with 3xBRD but you cant make it with survivability and ratata together, si you ll use M60.
You ll be using combination of Jet,psycho, buffout, nuka cola,cigs  and Chem reliant(not resistant) so you ll be permanently addicted to all drugs what makes you total junky but also good PVP build. You ll be using all 5 drugs which are buyable from me, dont worry it will be like 1200 caps for dose, or for one TC or for one reno action ;P.

http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=7386&pass=lolo

EDIT:

for healing you ll be using tons of SS of course, which are buyable from me too ;)

I get it, use your build so i have to buy your stuff :P
Are you sure the 6 str is necessary ? is that so i dont have to waste a perk on weapon handling?
is 210 big guns enough? o.o
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: greenthumb on December 16, 2012, 07:06:08 pm
Quote from: foonlinecurious on December 16, 2012, 06:56:20 pm
I get it, use your build so i have to buy your stuff :P
Are you sure the 6 str is necessary ? is that so i dont have to waste a perk on weapon handling?
is 210 big guns enough? o.o

yes iam sure 6ST is necessary if you gona use all those drugs, yes you ll better use first perk for +5% crit , also 7ST you ll got with drugs what will be useful if you decide to carry also RL(with rockets) not only M60. yes 210% BG is enough to 94% Chance to hit on 35 hexes with M60(ofc drugged)

And yes if you ll be unable to get drugs yourself you ll have to buy them from other players(if you ll have only this build you ll be unable to get any drug)
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: foonlinecurious on December 16, 2012, 08:28:11 pm
ok someone said 5 luck is too high, then your telling me to use 5 luck.
now you people are just confusing me =/ 
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: Cyber Jesus on December 16, 2012, 08:58:05 pm
Try this (http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/development[/url) build

Looks like this when on drugs (Psycho,beer and cigs)

Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: Roachor on December 16, 2012, 10:02:57 pm
http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=7393

This is what a mans build looks like.
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: greenthumb on December 16, 2012, 10:18:56 pm
Quote from: foonlinecurious on December 15, 2012, 11:57:39 pm
Probably mini guns, and rockets. ( mostly mini gun cuz I dont want to friendly fire or kill myself)
I prefer ratata with a little bit of survivability but id rather kill quicker.

Quote from: foonlinecurious on December 16, 2012, 05:18:22 am
Fine, than im a drug build, pretty lame not to be one right?

since curious fonliner decided to have "ratata build" also drugged one, he should use potential of 14 AP used with maximum efficiency(M60,BROF,Crit, more crit,spray and pray,better crit)

if somebody told you 5LK is too high that he was probably joking, becouse luck is never high enough. You have to choose priority, i believe  for your build its like this:
1.Max AP (10AG-1buffout+1nuka)
2.Max HP (10EN since you cant get high bonuses from perks which are used for AP purposes)
3.7ST (6+1psycho+2buffout-2jet)= no malus for BG ,influencing your chance to hit
4.5PE influencing your range of sight(35 same as range of M60)
5.3IN is choosed becouse its lowest value which allows you to imrpove BG skill(210%) high enough to have maxed chance to hit in your max range (35hexes~94%ChanceToHit)*
6.LK(basicaly all remaining special points = 5)you should also use small frame since you can carry 2 weapons with enough ammo for 1 hour fight with only 52-60 carry weight
7.CH=1 :)

@cyberjesus: flaws (or why i think your build might be still improved)
1.too high CW -> small frame
2.you have 6 hexes larger range of sight than range of any "burst BG"
so yeah you are efficient with RL too, but you cant build flawless burster then.
3.6ST!!! you are missing 1ST to obtain lowest value for all BGs ( its like you got only 182% BG skill) -> add 1 Special Point from small frame trait to ST
4. you are not using maximum bonus from drugs (buffout, nuka), if you would you could have at least LK3(LK is important if you are being crithit, if you got LK1 gauss sniper might bypass your armor for over 40% -> practicaly 1 shot would be over 140dmg and probably KO)

and maybe most important thing is that this is not "ratata" build but "tanky" one, what is opposite of what curious fonliner wished ;)

@roach:
what drugs are you using?
what weapon are you using?
is it PVP alt?
why you got 55SP unused on you build? :P


guys if you are sharing you build please give us some description too, like drugs, weapons or other gear...
Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: foonlinecurious on December 16, 2012, 11:19:18 pm
I like your build greenthumb but I really REALLY don't want to be PERMA addicted to all drugs o.o
so what would you suggest in place of chem reliant?  is jinxed useful? XD
all of the other traits kind of suck XD and fast shot does not effect burst weapons.
the only other ones id consider were kamikaze, but apparently not that useful for PVP.
Metabolism looked good for healing but gain we're nerfing the drug effects.

Title: Re: This build ok for pvp? ( another big gun question)
Post by: greenthumb on December 17, 2012, 10:45:48 am
if you are serious about doing PVP with this alt(if you mean TC or soem team actions in new reno) you ll use him only for that, so once your team decide to go for PVP you use all drugs -> and enjoy that. But you lll be not using it for PVE or other activities.

Anyway you become junky only if you use drug first time, if you ll not use any drug you ll be quite good BGunner also for PVE, then once you earn some drugs and superstims - you simply stockpiled all stuff for PVP -> then you can make you fighter start using drugs