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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: Leim on December 06, 2012, 11:47:51 am
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Its getting pretty late on in the season and we still can't find some of the high tier blueprints like:
CA MKII
CH MKII
BA
BH
Avenger
Psycho(not that it could be crafted do to lack of implementation)
why can't we find these blueprints? is there any real reason to hold them back from the crafters or are you unaware they are missing?. as it is now PvE Farming for gear will yeild better gear which puts crafters in the back seat for supplying gear. I can understand holding back BA/BH as those are unattainable atm but the others can currently be farmed thru PvE or in the case of Psycho bought from vendors.
Another thing, why can't we craft drugs? was it intentional or just lack of implementation? do we have to TC for them... was there supposed to be a gap between TCers and I guess people with a personal preference to not join in on PVP?
I just can't see a reason for having a crafting system at all this season there is no balance between the crafting and loot.
I'm just a bit frustrated with seemingly be wasting my time with the BP hunting and crafting only to be one upped by the PvE farmers, don't get me wrong I do find BP hunting/crafting enjoyable its just there is no payoff with they current game state. Please tell me there is a good reason why?
TL;DR no balance between crafting and PvE farming, please fix or atleast tell me its being worked on.
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1year and we are at 70% :) drugs and ba/ea/ncr ca are missing. Avengers and gatlings wont be craftable. But i would love to see bozars with little boost in game. 8ap aimed in eyes with brof and required 7str and 11pe and 10luck would be pain in ass byt still it is possible to do it. Or give us bozars and new amonition .50 -25%dr and -1.25 damage
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Psycho BP is obtainable, I ate one. It requires 4 chem component 5 HQ chem component and bio med gel.
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It's because devs failed horribly at the beginning of this season and haven't moved an inch to implement those since. Well at least what concerns crafting and those nasty blueprints. Don't mention it tho, some deluded fanbois will stomp you dead just for enunciating common knowledge.
If you feel frustrated, imagine how I felt when I bought BGsmith at season's start planning to go powerlevel properly with Improved flamer, only to find out that IMPF's and its MKII isn't craftable from scratch anymore and requires BPs. Then you can imagine how the frustration grew indefinitely, turning into pure rage over time, when after a month or so I found out that improved flamer and MKII fuel BP is a mythological artifact that is as real as unicorns.
...don't get me wrong I do find BP hunting/crafting enjoyable its just there is no payoff with they current game state. ...
You for real ? There are actual masochists in fonline !
In any case anything that is left to us is praying some of the ol' devs return and start working together on this like they used to. But don't bet your hands on that, since tis gonna improve nothing drastically pre-wipe. I rather hope they decide to focus on the upcoming season and forget about this rotting incurable corpse called season 6.
Providing of course uhh, that there's gonna be a next season
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If drugs were craftable, your next concern would be that some turbofarmer keeps gathering all chem comps and resources are always depleted. For example I went mining today with 49 players online and HQ minerals were depleted and the stuff isn't even super duper wanted.
Psycho BP is obtainable, I ate one. It requires 4 chem component 5 HQ chem component and bio med gel.
HQ chem comps don't exist.
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From what I remember. BA was supposed to be gained only from some NPC faction through some faction points (I'm guessing same nonsense for CAmk2, Developer is developer, Solar is Solar, but I prefer the developer), Avenger was supposed to be some ultra rare weapon, so that mostly you'd see miniguns around. Crafting/Trader table simply wasn't finished, along with the availability of certain resources required to craft items, HQ stuff.
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I used to think that devs added not all things at once to keep players interested in game. You know, all blueprints will be available near next wipe.
Providing the players will still be there. But hey what i'm saying. There are addicts, logging every since and then to maintain stuff they have.
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Avengers and gatlings wont be craftable.
Avenger was craftable in previous seasons, not even asking for gatlings to be craftable just a balance on farming vs crafting.
Psycho BP is obtainable, I ate one. It requires 4 chem component 5 HQ chem component and bio med gel.
I'd appreciate a screenshot of it on the fixboy if you could, been hunting for that bp since season start.
If you feel frustrated, imagine how I felt when I bought BGsmith at season's start planning to go powerlevel properly with Improved flamer, only to find out that IMPF's and its MKII isn't craftable from scratch anymore and requires BPs. Then you can imagine how the frustration grew indefinitely, turning into pure rage over time, when after a month or so I found out that improved flamer and MKII fuel BP is a mythological artifact that is as real as unicorns.You for real ? There are actual masochists in fonline !
not to piss in the wound that is your frustration, if you didn't know they fixed up impflamer by putting in a blueprint and added MKII fuel to the BGsmith list a while ago :/
I just like doing it because i can sit back watch tv or movies and its easy to walk away from at a moments notice, none of that I'm in the middle of a fight i need 5 minutes argggggg and no need for a group :)
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next wipe
Next Wipe, I heard next Wipe is at 1. January. Some friend told me who heard from another friends, friend.
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Next wipe, I heard next Wipe is at 1. January. Some friend told me who heard from another friends, friend.
That friend who told me that prewipe madness starts on 21 December? Or was it just BANG, "nick or password wrong"?
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It could be good if they will add all armors and after fixing crafting and trading. It is quite boring now when i Have all and loot isnt So presious
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From what I remember. BA was supposed to be gained only from some NPC faction through some faction points (I'm guessing same nonsense for CAmk2, Developer is developer, Solar is Solar, but I prefer the developer), Avenger was supposed to be some ultra rare weapon, so that mostly you'd see miniguns around. Crafting/Trader table simply wasn't finished, along with the availability of certain resources required to craft items, HQ stuff.
what i don't get is if they had a plan and the dev that was working on it stopped working on it, it should of been a priority job for someone else to finish, its been long enough. crafting for the stuff the requires the none existance HQ items should be reworked to remove the need for them till the HQ items are implemented, that would be easy enough to do.
Next Wipe, I heard next Wipe is at 1. January. Some friend told me who heard from another friends, friend.
;)
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not to piss in the wound that is your frustration, if you didn't know they fixed up impflamer by putting in a blueprint and added MKII fuel to the BGsmith list a while ago :/
No worries, nothing to piss into here anymore, I've been over this for a long time. Like Grief expert David Kessler described in his five stages of grief theory, you've come to accept this season incredibad shape eventually no matter how bitterly you hoped at first. I just participate in NCR TC and make the best outta it !
Yea, I'm aware that the BP has been added, but what for ? The only proper utilization for improved flamer was powerleveling, besides maybe from being used by some PvE lunatics, but what's the use in that if you have to grind endlessly first to find it's relative rare BP or buy it from some glow scavengers for an uncheap price ? It could be as well be in china, on the moon or not-implemented at all like this.
If anything Improved flamer should be added to the default BGsmith crafttable, without requiring any further requirements (not even advanced workbenches tbh). Else I rather will continue wasting astrometric tons of 5mm and 7,62 then grind and craft for this piece of ****
Next Wipe, I heard next Wipe is at 1. January. Some friend told me who heard from another friends, friend.
Yea but a simple wipe won't change anything for good, we either need this polished up or a throwback to last season. The latter being extremly unlikely
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Come on, you don't seriously think the wipe will be that soon. :P
There will be at least a year of this drag until the serv gets wiped.
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Leim, I got that psycho BP too. Its not so hard to get when you know where to find it. As was said before,its still unuseable since that HQ components are not obtainable.
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The gathering system is almost as broken as the repair system. There is enough wrong in those areas but we keep getting updates where doors are fixed. I know the devs have lives, but I get the distinct impression the developers involved with crafting, gathering, bp's and such aren't around/have enough time, and REFUSE to let anyone else work on it. At least that's the only reasonable thing I can think of as to why these things have gone on for so long without being addressed. The bp hunting is almost laughable, but at least it was something, however when combined with the ridiculous things needed to then craft any item you had a bp for, it becomes pretty much not worth the effort. IMHO.
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Come on, you don't seriously think the wipe will be that soon. :P
There will be at least a year of this drag until the serv gets wiped.
Shh, don't spoil the fun. You have no idea what players will be believe when their desperate for something new. Go to some Shady Sands and start seriously talking about Wipe and think of some imaginary dates, time, that some developer said something on irc or whatever, players will go nuts and the side-effects are funny.
Manipulate the weak minded, it's fun. Last time rumors went on, god it was fun to read, would like to shake hands with the guy who spread them, first it was April or something, or was it much more earlier? Don't remember and then each next month there was a new date, new Wipe and new hope to crush. ;D
Wipe is not going to come anytime in close future, when you hear Wipe you got to have some mental block on it, because 99% of times it is going to be bullshit.
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wipe will be happen at the end of the year or the server does go down because of lack of money , only these 2 options are possible in my opinion , if wipe isnt comming at the end of the year then probably the server will go down in march or april rofl ...
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I don't need a wipe!
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Save toilet paper for the wipe later.
Back to the original topic, I find this session more fun without the brotherhood armors its interesting to have to wear differnt armors to prevent differnt things. Don't want to get killed by gatling laser wear mamkII or tesla, want to have defense vs the big guns wear CA or CAMKII. It has been an interesting session in those regards.
I have been asking why they haven't allowed us to craft drugs for this long I cannot believe that they would forget something this important for this long, unless they intended to make pyscho a rare and pain in the ass drug to obtian because its probably the most valued things in the wasteland at this moment.
Hell I don't like crafting armors anyways, I like the way it is at the moment with farming and repairing, and the game is that more interesting without the BA.
Lets just face it this session was rushed, all there is too it, and people who were selected to test it didn't report anything or test it thoroughly. They didn't test any PvP or drug crafting, it was just random people doing their own things and if they found a bug to their advantage they didn't report it.
It would be nice if they added the advance chemical components... although I suggest to have the old recipies but you have to BP, so we can bring back some point to this boring feature, if there is no goal to obtian the best armor to craft with a blue print at least give it a purpose to find drug bp to craft.
I generally do not like the crafting all that much, game is much more enjoyable to me with just farming and trading but if its one thing I never to seem to never trade enough for or find is pyscho, this I would like to find and craft if possible, but maybe at this point in the game its too late to implament such things and should have been fixed first month of the session not 7 months later down the road.
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Save toilet paper for the wipe later.
You just enlightened me about the true meaning of word "Wipe".
It just makes sense. This is why the timespans between wipes are called Sessions.
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I'd appreciate a screenshot of it on the fixboy if you could, been hunting for that bp since season start.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/343rash.jpg)
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(http://i48.tinypic.com/343rash.jpg)
Thanks gives me something to look for even if it can't be crafted :)