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Why would you (or did you) join the army of your country? Or why didn't/won't you?
Leave your opinion here. :)
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German Bundeswehr? Anytime.
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my friend from Finland said he was conscripted into service where they kept him and some other kids in a forest for couple of months. now they pay for his housing or something like that. sounds really cool beans except the part about being kidnapped and all.
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Risk my life for low pay to murder at the behest of corrupt politicians to placate their corporate masters? Only a fool would agree.
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No, the reason why is because in reacent years Australia has been involed in american wars that is not in Australia's best intrest to fight (Iraq Afganistan Vietnam Kosovo East Timor)
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I don't want to be responsible for any murder. Joining an army is already ideologically murder for me.
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Risk my life for low pay to murder at the behest of corrupt politicians to placate their corporate masters? Only a fool would agree.
bu-bu-bu-bu- YER CUNTRY! YE CUR, SATAN HATH YOU! BEGONE VILE WHORE!
and so on... :P (just in case, I'm being sarcastic)
But I must ask you, what if you got conscripted? If you don't agree they pretty much either execute you or... well awful stuff.
I think I'd rather put a bullet my own head before I let anyone force me to kill. If I kill it's going to be my choice.
The fact that my country still has the conscription laws in effect tells me my country ain't worth fighting for.
So no, I would not join the army, unless the pay got better at the very least.
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I signed up for basic military training (2 months in a military camp) at the end of those 2 months I could get a contract with the army and become a regular soldier + they'll pay your university + officer exams. If I get that contract I probably ain't gonna sign it, got some other plans, but if my plans fail, army here I come.
Reasons why I signed was if some big shit arises and my idiotic country gets involved and begins drafting all males from age of 18, its better to have some military training than none. IMO all males should finish some sort of military training, they don't have to become soldiers, just so they know something if war ever happens and they are drafted.
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When I got 18, I was already a trainee, this excludes you from mandatory military service in germany until you're done. When I got my job-degree with 21, mandatory military service was removed in germany.
But I would not want to join the military anyway. The only time I would pick up a gun for the bundeswehr is when our country is really threatened (inside the country, border - which will only happen if china begins world-conquering). But not to drive around the ocean hunting pirates or getting killed in the middle-eastern deserts.
Also If you kill a man/woman, you take a away someones father/mother, son/daugther, brother/sister, friend or lover. I don't want that to happen to me, so I would never do it to another human.
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No, I would not as army is obsolete institution and waste of money.
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You mad, bro? Never!
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No conscription in Canada
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I was considering this option two years ago, but that is it.
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I was considering this option two years ago, but that is it.
You should consider again.
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You should consider again.
He found out the enemies weren't naked holding pipe rifles
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I'm too weak and squishy to actually hold a real life 3d gun.
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No conscription in Canada
Wrong, technically.
Conscription happens in canada when it's 'needed'. Such as world war 1 and 2.
Only reason conscription isn't more common (Modern times) is because there's more than enough volunteering it isn't necessary.
Gov can still conscript you whenever they want to... they just don't need to yet.
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In Australia Conscripts are banned from fighting overseas but cause of a loop hold in WW2 they had to fight in Papua and in Vietnam they found another loop hold so maybe I am not sure
PS. I would join to kill some commies/muslims
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PS. I would join to kill some commies/muslims
(http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/smiles/hmmm.png)
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joking ofc
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What's wrong about killing muslims/commies anyway?
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What's wrong about killing muslims/commies anyway?
If you're using a high-power rifle without any compensator the recoil might hurt.
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Nope! I considered it when I was an 8 year old of course but according to my high school's career results top 10# I'd make a much better Officer of the Law, or Corrections Officer, or Po-roll Officer or a Social worker or a garbage man. I'd much rather help people than you know... invade there fucking country. No offence to anyone who was in the service.
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I might join U.S. Marines after high school :P
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In my country the military used to be mandatory for everyone when they finnished highschool, but they changed that law now. I would defenetly join the army if I can't have anything better to do. Every male in my family joined the army, so I guess it would be my turn too. I would also have no problem killing people for my country, if I had to.
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Problem is, as of today, sending your army to another country is not necessary for many countries. Germany for example focuses on protecting economic borders(trade routes on the ocean for example) and help allies in the middle-east with the Bundeswehr. That's not worth killing a man for your country in my opinion.
In my opinion killing in self-defence is only justified if your own life(while at your country, not on tour with the army boys) or family/friends/neigbours are in great danger (ZOMFG russian invaders! *Sorry old german joke*).
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In my opinion killing in self-defence is only justified if your own life(while at your country, not on tour with the army boys) or family/friends/neigbours are in great danger (ZOMFG russian invaders! *Sorry old german joke*).
Yeah, but the problem is you can't assess the danger when you're under duress and have no information about the attacker's true intentions. That's why most of the civilized countries allow it, at least on paper.
Besides I don't really understand why people think about doing combat tours in conflict zones when they talk about joining the army, even if you want it and live in a country that actively takes part in NATO operations the odds are high you're never going to go overseas unless you join special forces. Most developed countries including the US have their militaries just to sort of be there and look tough to keep their citizens safe and scare would-be aggressors, it's not like conducting operations is their primary focus. I mean aside from the Middle East there isn't a whole lot of warfare going on in the world.
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If army wasn't associated with an organization, government or a country - sure.
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Canadian conscription happened but they barely managed in ww2 it would never happen today. That and our multiethnic population has no ties to other peoples conflicts. Any gov't that suggested conscription would fall.
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canada's maple syrup cannister shot bombs helped the Allies defeat the gigantor and pimped out Panzers of the Wehrmacht by making thier treads all sticky and deliscious. no blood was ever shed.
except those russians.
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If you're using a high-power rifle without any compensator the recoil might hurt.
The satisfaction of desired bloodshed will make up for it.
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T-888 won't like IRL PVP no Fast Relogg
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He will just scream "spawn muties" :) or he will stick his needle standing in front of rpg :) hehehe...t-888 in army?;) That would kill fo2238 :)
And back to topic...Fuck no polish army is like live museum...:)
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You'd dislike when you'd found out that you are not authorized to open fire unless given previous order.
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T-888 won't like IRL PVP no Fast Relogg
Never considered the dangers of health.
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Being a 2238 pro badass wouldn't make you an army bad ass.
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Being a 2238 pro badass wouldn't make you an army bad ass.
Obviously.
To be honest, i have no idea what is it like to be in war and hope, not ever to experience it or let experience anyone else, for God's sake.
Of course it will be harshly different from peaceful boredom at duty.
All i know, that is a trauma and noone have the better idea, no matter the talking, than the one soldier having experienced it firsthand.
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Screw that..
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Screw that..
And why?
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Think it's funny when people say they would join to protect their country or 'inside borders', when a country is just a strip of land and imaginary borders. It's like dying for pair of expensive brand shoes.
No direspect to the puny humans on planet earth that continue to have stupid conflicts.
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Well I am from murica soooo no. Why would I want to fight corrupt wars against innocent people and risk dying for nothing. Also I am lazy as hell and wouldn't make it past any kind of training lol.
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Id say killing for your country goes out the window in real combat, if you were in heavy combat with risk of death, you wouldnt be thinking about how proud your making your countryman, you would be more worried about your own squads survival.
Like andr3az said:
"In my opinion killing in self-defence is only justified if your own life or family/friends/neigbours are in great danger."
Only a fool loves war or someone who has never experienced it.
Notions of loyalty and honor go out the window when you see half your mates face ripped away by a bullet and if you do not have a strong mind for what you may witness in a time of war, it can fuck you up.
If I had to join the army I would. But id be a different person having survived it.
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I did.
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And why?
Wars we have in our days are for oil and other resources. not for freedom or capitalism..
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Wars we have in our days are for oil and other resources. not for freedom or capitalism..
War for profit is the very essence of capitalism
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join army to get a job is nothings particular :)
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I'm an engineer, not a soldier.
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I'm an engineer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8hvyjZWHs
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I wouldn't join my countries army.
Because we always get displayed as madmen in movies.