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Title: Political position
Post by: brad smalls on November 12, 2012, 12:51:36 am
I am a Right conservative personaly
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Eternauta on November 12, 2012, 03:13:02 am
What about Peronism, Kirchnerism...?
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: brad smalls on November 12, 2012, 03:37:59 am
The left right system aplies to all polictics i am just using the parties and political movements as examples
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Eternauta on November 12, 2012, 03:40:07 am
Is kirchnerism a left-wing or right-wing position?
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: brad smalls on November 12, 2012, 03:49:55 am
Wikipedia has it on the side tab for all political movements

but from what i have read kirchnerism is left and Peronism is center leaning right
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Eternauta on November 12, 2012, 04:10:16 am
But kirchnerism is based on the peronist doctrine, heh.

The left-right opposition is not universal, it only works in "developed" countries. Other countries such as mine can copy that opposition or follow their own political path. This was the case in Arg with peronism in the 40's and early 50's (during the Cold War, that government didn't want the country to obey any of the two superpowers), and it's the case now with kirchnerism, that is our current government.

If you ask about our current gov, a person from a trotskyist party would say it's a neoliberal, capitalist government. But a person from a neoliberal party would say it's a socialist or, in some cases, fascist government. It's not really possible to define it with such terms, or if you do you're just importing a definition from an external system.
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Roachor on November 12, 2012, 04:12:34 am
Anarchist
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: brad smalls on November 12, 2012, 04:17:59 am
Roachor that is extream left so vote far left if you did not know
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Roachor on November 12, 2012, 04:35:37 am
Quote from: brad smalls on November 12, 2012, 04:17:59 am
Roachor that is extream left so vote far left if you did not know
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Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Eternauta on November 12, 2012, 04:36:57 am
Quote from: Roachor on November 12, 2012, 04:35:37 am

Exactly my point. :P
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Slaver Snipe on November 12, 2012, 04:57:37 am
I cannot classify myself except as an individual thinker who believes all of the "great" ideologies are flawed which requires me to choose different positions based on the subject in question, I will say I dislike that you put nazism next to fascism giving fascism a very negative connotation when there are major differences between the two.
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: brad smalls on November 12, 2012, 06:44:31 am
They are examples for the areas of the spectrum and Facism is in the same area as Nasism

and the political spectrum has another dimention so its like a cross with libertarianism and authortianism so anarcism is on the same level as communism on right and left but polar oppisites on the libertaian and authatrian
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Horatio on November 12, 2012, 08:17:49 am
Social democrat.
Shall the nazi ass miscarriages arise, though, i'd go zerg communist on them like my grandfather.

Because nationalsocialism is not a choice of opinion, but a infectious, dangerous mental illness.
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Mike Crosser on November 12, 2012, 11:02:39 am
This thread is so trollable it's silly.
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Surf on November 12, 2012, 01:01:53 pm
Pretty sure this is going to end well.
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Tomowolf on November 12, 2012, 01:38:34 pm
I'm for coal, where Can I click?
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Fat Man on November 12, 2012, 01:47:45 pm
Good thing we are all from differnt countires and nobody knows wtf goes on with their parties and politics if you don't live in them ;p

I guess I would vote
left - American Democrats/Greens

But in USA I would be considered a moderate democrat I don't go left on all issues some issues I go right, but for most part I am left American Democrats as you say.

I actually think both political spectrums need to find common ground negioate and try to work on things and find agreement instead of argueing same crap over and over with nothing getting done. I don't think extreme left or extreme right is any good for anybody you need a balance of both. But maybe that is just my American thinking I really don't know anything about other countries candidates are or what big issues there are in other countries just what they call their government branches, and who currently holds prime minister or presidental position etc. Most you hear about politics in differnt countireis if its something really big and important, contributes to the world like the issue of reporters taking pictures of a wife of a royal familiy member and printing pictures of her boobs in a magizines.

But on a global scale I think its best if countries worry about their internal politics sort out their problems and if you are a supporter of one party than whatever go for it its not really a problem of what you believen in. I think free trade is better for the world than a militaristic free riegn of terror. World is better off trading, producing goods trade for other goods which they can't produce, and diplomacy should always be the first option. But sometimes issues and other factors are more complex, political system is a complex thing each country goes about things differntly there isn't a "one size fits all" approach to politics its best if each country worries about their needs and rights than some power house country getting into their business.
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Brujah on November 12, 2012, 03:27:45 pm
Military dictatorship for a few more years.



Brazil is in dire need of a war or some population control.
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Knife_cz on November 12, 2012, 04:22:20 pm
Communism is a good theory.
But impossible to be accomplished in reality.
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Roachor on November 12, 2012, 04:48:34 pm
Let's talk about something less controversial, like religion or abortion.
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Fat Man on November 12, 2012, 05:02:20 pm
Suprised this hasn't turned into a flame war yet but I think at this point we are all adjust to speaking to people from differnt regions of the world who come from differnt beliefs and live in differnt political systems. Most people in this community are respectful to eachother in that regards.

I think if this thread was PvP politics all hell would break lose ;)
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Eternauta on November 12, 2012, 06:38:09 pm
Let's see if we can start a flame war this way: which is the best form or organization for a 2238 TC PvP faction? For example, which system is better when managing faction gear? :D
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: Fat Man on November 12, 2012, 06:42:55 pm
Quote from: Eternauta on November 12, 2012, 06:38:09 pm
Let's see if we can start a flame war this way: which is the best form or organization for a 2238 TC PvP faction? For example, which system is better when managing faction gear? :D

Dictatorship for when doing pvp battle, gready and no sharing capitalism for gear. And the promise of communism for recruiting. And complete anarchy for everything else.
Title: Re: Political position
Post by: brad smalls on November 12, 2012, 10:46:14 pm
well how would a flame war start I mean we are not debating an issue so its rather hard to start a flame war