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Title: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: ISAred on March 24, 2010, 12:00:58 am
What do I do when someone is camping one of the spawn points, and keeping me knocked out?
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Ganado on March 24, 2010, 12:02:22 am
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Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: ISAred on March 24, 2010, 12:02:52 am
Thanks!
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Killy on March 24, 2010, 12:14:29 am
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please, tell me where its written ?
if u mean below 0 hp then u are right
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: vedaras on March 24, 2010, 12:24:46 am
here from rules in news and announcments section:

- Maintaining someone below 0 health points, preventing him/her from respawning.
- Attacking people in respawn locations.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: strelok on March 24, 2010, 01:36:42 am
I love how they say the "wasteland" is harsh...but really the only thing thats actually harsh in FOnline are the mindless PKers. They arn't the wasteland. They are the people within the wasteland. There isn't one creature that's the least bit harsh or a place that you visit that's harsh. Maybe the Glow. But who goes there?

Most people my age (25) and over really don't want to spend their time playing this game to mindlessly kill people. It's for the young ones preferably 10-17 who love this mindless killing shit that never seems to get old to them. I've never done a raid before but it looks like a lot of fun and is not mindless killing, its territorial which I think is great.

For the Russians though - I don't think it matters if there's a 58 year old behind the keyboard...they kill anything that moves w/o saying a word...lol
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Surf on March 24, 2010, 01:57:24 am
Yeah, sadly this game is more appealing to the younger ones, like you said.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Killy on March 24, 2010, 02:20:28 am
here from rules in news and announcments section:

- Attacking people in respawn locations.


what does it mean ?

what if I stay near the respawn point (btw u mean red hexes or hospital's respawn point?) lets say red hexes in modoc and the guy who just came in is atacking me first?
there is nothing about this case.


Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: solid snake on March 24, 2010, 03:14:53 am
what does it mean ?

what if I stay near the respawn point (btw u mean red hexes or hospital's respawn point?) lets say red hexes in modoc and the guy who just came in is atacking me first?
there is nothing about this case.




the respawn location is the place where you replicate after you die. the farm house where you replicate in that room with the curtain in the doorway is one of the respawn locations. ya know, the room where people wait and breaks your legs so you can't run..
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Wichura on March 24, 2010, 04:46:43 am
For the Russians though - I don't think it matters if there's a 58 year old behind the keyboard...they kill anything that moves w/o saying a word...lol
Yeah, and all the Yankees are fat and stupid, and all they want from world is oil.
Geez man, it's really not that simple.

I can agree partially with the rest, about people's age. Partially, because I know couple people below 18 years old, who seem to be much more mature than some 25+. So it is not the "gold rule" you know. But you are right, chance to meet some frag-lover are higher, when he is under, say, 20. New generation of players comes, like it or not.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: solid snake on March 24, 2010, 05:16:08 am
all i ever hear on this board are generalizations.
it doesn't matter what age you are imo.
if your going to waste someone, then you will.
if you abuse the game, you get punished.
most of us know what we are getting into when we play this game.
i'd be nice if people played the game for what it is.
i know there are people who will never knew GTA has a storyline..  ;D
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Vanessa on March 24, 2010, 07:10:53 am
The game is full PVP for a reason. Yes, you'll be PK'ed, it's not really "mindless" because once you hit level 21, what else is there to do?

I'm not saying that the goal is to reach level 21 so that you can walk into a town and kill whoever you want, but even my gang with most people under level 10 likes to PvP every once in a while. Though, most of the time the goal is to find somebody wearing combat armor or metal armor that has a lot of HP and kill him. Because really, those guys are assholes. Especially when they shoot at anybody they think they can kill, even if they gain nothing from it.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Lexx on March 24, 2010, 08:36:29 am
Stuff

Wait, didn't you said you wanted to leave some time ago?

Strange.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: skejwen on March 24, 2010, 08:51:37 am
Most people my age (25) and over really don't want to spend their time playing this game to mindlessly kill people. bla bla
You could be surprised

For the Russians though - I don't think it matters if there's a 58 year old behind the keyboard...they kill anything that moves w/o saying a word...lol
You seem to have some problems with Russians overall...

I'm not saying that the goal is to reach level 21... bla bla
The goal is to find and report bugs...
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 02:31:19 pm
I don't care if Russians kill me half a dozen times, they are from a superior, godly stock and have a right to.

I love mother Russia!
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: gordulan on March 24, 2010, 02:46:08 pm
i don't like to deal in extremes, but please go and suck a lemon before there will be a napalm war on.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Kharaam on March 24, 2010, 03:24:44 pm
The goal is to find and report bugs...
yeah skejwen is damn right, we are beta testers right? don't complain about the games community, but about games bugs and its imbalance, don't use exploits because in this way the game will never develop to be fully playable.

about Russians? it is all about language&alphabet barrier, they are normal people, i know because i've talked to some of them, even to PKers. The truth is you can easily find assholes (sorry) in every nation playing FOnline and believe me assholes (sorry) can be found in every age too. Therefore- there is no group that can be marked as "assholes"! We just have to get used to them, they are in every MMO.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: strelok on March 24, 2010, 03:59:50 pm
What about them exploiting and not reporting that obviously? Cause it's happened over and over.

Also, I dont have a problem with Russians...I'm actually a little Lithuanian which is quite close. I'm just saying that every time I see some guy with the name HDSDDHSJ, he never says anything and shoots you down...even when you come back in a bluesuit to see if you can get your shit back...gunned down for no apparant reason, no roleplaying or anything. And might I add that it all happened in the middle of Junktown. Beta huh? Shit like that should have been fixed the first week the game was available.

And I'm sorry but isn't there a Russian server TLA? Go there.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 04:02:51 pm
Lithuania may be close geographically, but the two cultures are pretty much incompatible.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Kharaam on March 24, 2010, 04:04:40 pm
TLA is a different game to be true. It is not other FOnline.

about getting killed... does a psychopats need a reason to kill you? or explain why he did? consider the world of FOnline full of savage psychos- it is Postapocalyptia's true face,people has gone mad after the bombs were dropped. No rules! No goverment! Cannibalism, raiders, robbers, pressgangs, mafia... kill or get killed! or find some group of people that will help you...
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Roachor on March 24, 2010, 04:19:13 pm
Yeah, sadly this game is more appealing to the younger ones, like you said.

do we have any stats on that? I can't really see anyone younger than 20 knowing enough about f2 to want to play, most younger guys won't play something that looks this dated.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: RavenousRat on March 24, 2010, 04:24:34 pm
do we have any stats on that? I can't really see anyone younger than 20 knowing enough about f2 to want to play, most younger guys won't play something that looks this dated.
I'm younger than 20, and I've played F1 when I was little child. ;p (can't remember exact date, but it was in the same year, when Fallout appeared in my country 1998-2000, I can't remember)
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 04:25:46 pm
I'm younger than 20, and I've played F1 when I was little child. ;p (can't remember exact date, but it was in the same year, when Fallout appeared in my country 1998-2000, I can't remember)
No wonder you're so fucked up.

I'm kidding.

I'm only 20, but j'adore le Fallout.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: strelok on March 24, 2010, 04:48:24 pm
I'm younger than 20, and I've played F1 when I was little child. ;p (can't remember exact date, but it was in the same year, when Fallout appeared in my country 1998-2000, I can't remember)

Ok so you say you're younger than 20 so I'll just say 19. But probably not. Probably younger.

Anyways my point is that if you played fallout 1 12 years ago you would have been at most 7 years old? Playing a game that violent and one of the only that you could murder children? Did you parents or guardians or foster parents see what you were doing?

Just wondering...
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Surf on March 24, 2010, 04:50:09 pm
Come on strelok, I agree on some of your complaints, but now you're nitpicking. ;)
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 04:50:41 pm
How do you pick nits?
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Roachor on March 24, 2010, 04:52:20 pm
lol OMG U KILL KIDS!!

Yeah I'm sure the shock of watching a 12 x 6 pixel child die will scar them for life, along with the graphic text box insinuating how they give crappy bjs in new reno and got fired.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 04:53:58 pm
The sooner a child learns of his own mortality the better. Far too often kids die because of idiotic things. We in the West need to produce more smart kids, not less.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: RavenousRat on March 24, 2010, 04:55:02 pm
Ok so you say you're younger than 20 so I'll just say 19. But probably not. Probably younger.

Anyways my point is that if you played fallout 1 12 years ago you would have been at most 7 years old? Playing a game that violent and one of the only that you could murder children? Did you parents or guardians or foster parents see what you were doing?

Just wondering...
I've never kill any children in that game, till 2002, only once, when one of that damned little demons stole all my ammo in Den, and I played without save/load (if die, start new game), so, I've killed that damned child just to get all my ammo again.
Also I don't find Fallout more violent than GTA, I think now alot kids playing this game.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Roachor on March 24, 2010, 04:55:04 pm
How do you pick nits?
(http://thezenmonk.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/rhesus-monkeys-grooming.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 04:56:13 pm
I had not realized that we had devolved into Rhesus monkeys. :'(
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Roachor on March 24, 2010, 04:57:35 pm
I had not realized that we had devolved into Rhesus monkeys. :'(
Nit or NIT may refer to: The egg of a louse ยท Head lice

nitpicking = head lice removal
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 05:00:29 pm
We have pesticides for nits, these days.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: strelok on March 24, 2010, 05:10:41 pm
Children need to maintain their innocense and oblivousness to the real life "harsh world" for as long as possible, I think. It is the kind of world that most people hope for that will never actually exist.

It's kind of like having a pet. It has never lied to you, never killed anyone (hopefully), robbed anyone etc. etc. (cann't wait for the jokes on this one)

It doesn't matter if the kid is pixelated, it's the concept and principle of it.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 05:14:22 pm
Why do children need to maintain their innocence? They should be raised with warfare and high-culture in mind. Soft kids create soft cultures - it's why we're in decline and pretty much fucked.

Fallout maintains its excellent, dark atmosphere with killable children. It's as socially realistic as you can get. Plus, ESRB ratings are in place for a reason, and Fallout has always been M for mature.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Surf on March 24, 2010, 05:18:18 pm
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They should be raised with warfare and high-culture in mind.

I know it's OT, but WTF? You want every kid to grow up as a potential soldier?
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Roachor on March 24, 2010, 05:20:22 pm
Yeah and not everyone is a mouthbreathing child that wants games about unicorns doing their hair, adults play games too and they always have to tone it down for younger players. You don't see them doing it to movies its total bs.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 05:22:31 pm
I know it's OT, but WTF? You want every kid to grow up as a potential soldier?
Yes.

Except the girls.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Roachor on March 24, 2010, 05:24:09 pm
Yes.

Except the girls.

That's retarded, war is the biggest farce humanity has ever come up with. Millions die over arguments that don't even matter ten years later. Plus the way things are going they won't even need soldiers, just people who can work a remote control.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 05:25:11 pm
That's retarded, war is the biggest farce humanity has ever come up with. Millions die over arguments that don't even matter ten years later. Plus the way things are going they won't even need soldiers, just people who can work a remote control.
Raising children with a warrior spirit does not equate warfare. War should be limited as much as possible, but a nation's right to defend itself should never be impeded.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Surf on March 24, 2010, 05:26:07 pm
That is by far the most stupid thing I've read in this forum and I can't believe you're taking this serious...  :o
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 05:33:47 pm
Whatever. You've been raised with liberal sentimentalities.

Spartans were considered the best land soldiers in Greece and this is the kind of warrior spirit that should be invoked in Western society - and they didn't start as many wars, nor created a tyrannical empire like the Athenians. Besides, I don't want some asshole bully picking on my kid in school because he's a soft little bitch, like I was.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Lacan on March 24, 2010, 05:41:16 pm
Being strong makes you self confident for sure. But not everybody can be strong, and some of us are bound to be "soft little bitches"...

What do you do with the weak ? Leave'em on the side of the road or, like the Spartans did, kill them at a young age...
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 05:47:41 pm
Life, like FOnline, shouldn't be easy. I'm not going to deprive my children of a healthy childhood by letting them get sucked into the mind rot of female-dominated liberal mentalities, while working class scum or recently imported "new citizen" children abuse and hurt them. My progeny will be strong, intelligent, and proud of who they are. My fiancee is of the same opinion.

I've railroaded this thread enough, back to topic.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Darkhart on March 24, 2010, 05:54:16 pm
That's retarded, war is the biggest farce humanity has ever come up with. Millions die over arguments that don't even matter ten years later. Plus the way things are going they won't even need soldiers, just people who can work a remote control.

Well my dad could still beat up your dad....?

How do you pvp at respawn locations? I've seen people just get one shot. Inside tents or  closed buildings?
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Roachor on March 24, 2010, 06:46:31 pm
Whatever. You've been raised with liberal sentimentalities.

Spartans were considered the best land soldiers in Greece and this is the kind of warrior spirit that should be invoked in Western society - and they didn't start as many wars, nor created a tyrannical empire like the Athenians. Besides, I don't want some asshole bully picking on my kid in school because he's a soft little bitch, like I was.

Glad to see you're modeling your life on a time when people killed each other with pointy sticks and thought lightning was gods anger. Seems like you can't deal with your own physical inadequacies so you hope your children will be tough despite the fact that being tough has no benefit in civilized society, and if you pass on your out dated far right thinking you'll be retarding their development even more. Lets just hope your kids are smart enough to realize you aren't.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: RavenousRat on March 24, 2010, 06:49:40 pm
This topic is about how harsh is wasteland, not how to raise children. ;p
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 07:53:55 pm
Glad to see you're modeling your life on a time when people killed each other with pointy sticks and thought lightning was gods anger. Seems like you can't deal with your own physical inadequacies so you hope your children will be tough despite the fact that being tough has no benefit in civilized society, and if you pass on your out dated far right thinking you'll be retarding their development even more. Lets just hope your kids are smart enough to realize you aren't.
You obviously haven't seen a modern playground - you might want your kids raised as soft, pony loving prissies, but Hajiim from Somalia doesn't think that way.

Also, I've done a lot to deprogram my own weaknesses, physically and otherwise. I'm just going to make sure my kids aren't beta males at an early age, and teach them strength and pride in themselves. Also how to defend their bodies from violation and defend what is right. There is nothing outdated about creating children who are true to their own nature, everyone in the world does it, except pussy Western kids who get the shit beat out of them on the playground and read Anime like the beady-eyed, flabby weeaboos their parents forged them into, because teaching their kids to be strong and proud is a faux pas, and "outdated", and "retarded" etc. ad nauseum.

Better to pump my kids full of drugs to stem their ADHD, and let them watch 8 hours of psychologically programming TV every day, teaching them to worship the foreigner, hate thy white father, and that their ancestors were "evil" because of their outdated far right thinking.  ::)
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: RavenousRat on March 24, 2010, 07:57:43 pm
And here it begins, I think someone will lock this topic soon.




Someone, please, lock this thread, topic-creator got an answer of his question. Now there's suggestion about "How to raise children".
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Ganado on March 24, 2010, 08:05:19 pm
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Thanks!

This is where this topic should have ended.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: strelok on March 24, 2010, 08:54:42 pm
You obviously haven't seen a modern playground - you might want your kids raised as soft, pony loving prissies, but Hajiim from Somalia doesn't think that way.

Also, I've done a lot to deprogram my own weaknesses, physically and otherwise.

I stopped reading right there because quite frankly I don't give a fuck.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Lexx on March 24, 2010, 09:15:18 pm
Ok so you say you're younger than 20 so I'll just say 19. But probably not. Probably younger.

Anyways my point is that if you played fallout 1 12 years ago you would have been at most 7 years old? Playing a game that violent and one of the only that you could murder children? Did you parents or guardians or foster parents see what you were doing?

Just wondering...

I was playing the german version, which includes no children and no additional gore.

Oh well.
Title: Re: Hey, I know the wasteland is harsh and all that but...
Post by: Roachor on March 25, 2010, 06:53:06 am
I stopped reading right there because quite frankly I don't give a fuck.

lol