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Title: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: Ivic777 on November 02, 2012, 03:46:57 pm
Its bad idea that sneakers can wear weapons, such as  gatlings and others. Its not realistic that you can sneak with such a big weapon as gatling. Sneakers should be able to use sg, melee or throwing weapons, but nothing else, because their purpose should be the most for the TC. Its stupid to fight with sneakers in TC. I mean than everyone should have a sneaker char and it can be only  sneakers fight over TC, so there won`t be losing armors and helmets. ;)
Title: Re: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on November 02, 2012, 04:06:37 pm
hmmm.....sneakers in TC yea?

Maybe thats why devs made the motion sensors to stop that yes?
Title: Re: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: Ivic777 on November 02, 2012, 04:11:34 pm
Even with motion sensor, sneakers shouldnt wear gatlings or bgs. Motion sensor can be good for sneakers in general.
Title: Re: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: Roachor on November 02, 2012, 04:31:21 pm
Sneak is shit for everything but pve. In gear people see you at 23 hex, naked you get one shotted. It takes way too many stats for the shitty effect it gives, only low pe chars are hth and they aren't a threat to anyone. If you see sneak in tc its a scout, no sd crit is taking out 300 hp in gear, even by some miracle you did you'd die by the next shot.
Title: Re: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: Killer Rabbit on November 02, 2012, 05:19:26 pm
just wear ma mk2 and gatling can kiss ur ass...
Title: Re: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: Kascin on November 02, 2012, 05:32:44 pm
When you sneak you have 6 hex malus with a rifle, 12 hex malus with a heavy weapon.

It's not so easy to be a good sneak.
Title: Re: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: Kelin on November 02, 2012, 06:19:17 pm
I don't really see that as a problem, personally I have sg, ew and bg sneaker and every time I want to kill someone I have to bring quite good gear to the fight and believe me, killing such sneaker isn't that hard if your team mates protect you.
Title: Re: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: avv on November 02, 2012, 07:28:24 pm
Its bad idea that sneakers can wear weapons, such as  gatlings and others. Its not realistic that you can sneak with such a big weapon as gatling. Sneakers should be able to use sg, melee or throwing weapons, but nothing else, because their purpose should be the most for the TC. Its stupid to fight with sneakers in TC. I mean than everyone should have a sneaker char and it can be only  sneakers fight over TC, so there won`t be losing armors and helmets. ;)

Actually it's the cheap throwing/pistol sneaks that cause most problems because they are effective with simple gear. A sd pistoler/thrower can cause more trouble than visible variant of similar build.
BG/ew sneaks are actually risking lootworthy gear and use drugs.

Fighter sneaks are mostly trouble for low-health snipers wearing bad armors.
Title: Re: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: racoon on November 03, 2012, 11:25:00 am
carrying big guns gives you -70% penalty to sneak if im right.. so if you see sneaker from ~25 hex + he has penalty you can see him from like 30 hex.. what's the problem?
Title: Re: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: Fat Man on November 03, 2012, 02:16:19 pm
Depends on weight of the weapon.
Title: Re: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: Roachor on November 03, 2012, 04:20:00 pm
Depends on weight of the weapon.

no it depends on if the weapon is 2 handed or heavy class(bg, gatling), weight hasn't been involved in sneak calculation since last wipe.
Title: Re: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: Giftless on November 03, 2012, 05:03:39 pm
I think if anything sneak and big guns work better together to simulate "concealment at range." Imagine a military being able to deploy machine gun nests (or artillery) under foliage and then quickly tearing them down again.
Title: Re: Sneakers shouldn`t wear bg or ew weapons!
Post by: Roachor on November 03, 2012, 06:21:27 pm
the only weapons that have enough range and damage for sneak to be useful are 2handed and have malus. One handed just doesn't have the range or damage necessary to be effective, even sd crits don't have enough of a multiplier. (other than gauss)