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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: Blazekin on October 26, 2012, 08:02:06 am
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I really wished I had played this game back in the day, when more than 20 people played. What about if they did a wipe? I'd be ok with that and maybe might make people wanna play for a few days at least? Would they even do that? I don't know though.. I know nothing of the history of this game. When exactly was this game made actually I would like to know? It is one of the most awesome games I have ever played but it seems people got bored of it long ago.
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If they did Wipe to attract players, they would have to do it every week!
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If they did Wipe to attract players, they would have to do it every week!
Wipe was poorly managed, next time it might be better with current fixes + damage needs to be fixed from broken mechanics anyway, like mostly tweaking something existing, polishing the game and once wipe, old players will come to check how the game is, if it's in good quality, refined ... then it might be fun for more than just a week. Current sessions wipe was so ... the server was in such a bad shape, players left in large bulk due to game still being in CBT level.
You know, for once it might not be the case that the game is utter crap at start.
When, for example, there are 1000 line change log, shit-ton of features, in that case upon Wipe it seems it is physically impossible for existing developer team to manage that magnitude properly, no offense, but there will be bugs, game will apparently look crap for players and everyone knows what soon means when it comes to fixes and updates.
I'd settle for less, but better. Currently the game is becoming in a much more stable state, so something to spice that up + wipe would be just in time along with the damage fixes.
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I suppose it is more like an actual wasteland, only bumping into people every once in a while..or the few that hang around ncr. But it would be cool also to see more bustling cities and people trading and lots of social interaction. Is there even an economy in the game? everything I try to sell is worth zero caps and no one really trades to much as they just make their own shit. I guess I am afraid this game will die before I get to fully enjoy it, and I don't speak any russian to play the other few Fonline games out there.
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Is there even an economy in the game? everything I try to sell is worth zero caps and no one really trades to much as they just make their own shit.
IMHO this part killed the game. When it was possible to trade with NPC players whent to towns to trade and that was forcing players to meet and... well... "interact". Even if most of the time it was not peaceful interaction, it was fun (and sometimes frustrating, but still fun).
Now, nobode goes to towns, because there is nothing to do there (except getting killed by naked AC troll).
I would love to see tarde fixed.
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Ac ain't above 200 anymore now its max 140 its not so hard to hit them these days.
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Lol yeah its ac that makes people not trade, because it's totally still a thing. ::) people trade all the time, it's called using the forum. If you stand in ncr looking to buy something you'll wait forever.
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I'm sure he meant trade with NPCs.
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I trade with npcs all the time, they're a great source of stuff. What's the problem exactly?
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I suppose it is more like an actual wasteland, only bumping into people every once in a while..or the few that hang around ncr. But it would be cool also to see more bustling cities and people trading and lots of social interaction. Is there even an economy in the game? everything I try to sell is worth zero caps and no one really trades to much as they just make their own shit. I guess I am afraid this game will die before I get to fully enjoy it, and I don't speak any russian to play the other few Fonline games out there.
Trading is easy, you just have to be selective with which items you use as barter fuel. You also have to pay attention to what other players need: whether it be drugs, upper-level ammo, or useful raw materials. For example I'll pay 50 caps per piece on bulk alloys... also HQ Ore and HQ minerals has value if someone needs it and you have quantities to save them from grinding for it.
There's a helluva opportunity I think for newbies to do gathering and get paid by established players; though if you don't use your head and just give up, neither the game or other players will reward you for that.
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I suppose it is more like an actual wasteland, only bumping into people every once in a while..or the few that hang around ncr. But it would be cool also to see more bustling cities and people trading and lots of social interaction. Is there even an economy in the game? everything I try to sell is worth zero caps and no one really trades to much as they just make their own shit. I guess I am afraid this game will die before I get to fully enjoy it, and I don't speak any russian to play the other few Fonline games out there.
I am pretty sure there is a wiki page for that showing which merchants trade what, it is pretty vague though. I personally have done alot of Player - Player trading. It can get very messy, very fast.
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Well I was kindof talking more about all the lower tier stuff as I am still kindof new and dont have much. And was also talking more about with npcs. Whenever I try to sell them weapons or armor they say its worth zero caps. And I cannot buy stuff from them when I have no caps because they won't buy my stuff for caps. I know how to make caps I am just sayin it is a little weird that most stuff is worth nothing..only the shiny stuff is worth caps. You would think I get get at least 1 or 2 caps for a pistol or some leather armour.
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Well I was kindof talking more about all the lower tier stuff as I am still kindof new and dont have much. And was also talking more about with npcs. Whenever I try to sell them weapons or armor they say its worth zero caps. And I cannot buy stuff from them when I have no caps because they won't buy my stuff for caps. I know how to make caps I am just sayin it is a little weird that most stuff is worth nothing..only the shiny stuff is worth caps. You would think I get get at least 1 or 2 caps for a pistol or some leather armour.
Vendors only buy specific items, sell guns to a gun store, junk to bartenders
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Most vendors won't take the junky stuff that's easy to craft or loot; heck you're better off with shotgun ammo, throwing knives, radios, or molotovs than you are with 10mm handguns or basic leather armor. With those last two, I'll just science them for parts.
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I would love to see a wipe with a long changelog. Since I cannot contribute to the testing at the moment, I just check the forum every day, hoping to see "xx/xx/12 Changelog"
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I know who buys what, I am just saying that I would like every item to be worth something even if it is junk. Like if I go fight a bunch of raiders or something easy I want to be able to sell their knives and pistols for at least a few caps. I guess I am also saying that caps should be a little easier to obtain for newer people who don't know where or aren't strong enough to farm the good stuffs.
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I know who buys what, I am just saying that I would like every item to be worth something even if it is junk. Like if I go fight a bunch of raiders or something easy I want to be able to sell their knives and pistols for at least a few caps. I guess I am also saying that caps should be a little easier to obtain for newer people who don't know where or aren't strong enough to farm the good stuffs.
There is a vendor for any item in the game, as far as I know, at least I have always been able to sell anything I encounter, even some flowers in pots. Just look and see who buys what.
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I would like to see variety in the barter/trade with npc in the next wipe. NPC's should spawn with more useful stuff to players, not just with caps in which the first player hoards to himself. Gunz, high tier ammo, materials...
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I would like to see variety in the barter/trade with npc in the next wipe. NPC's should spawn with more useful stuff to players, not just with caps in which the first player hoards to himself. Gunz, high tier ammo, materials...
They spawn, not materials though, but you can find anything but avengers and gatlings and ofc gausses. Combat armors? Sure! Drugs? Yes. Sniper rifles, laser rifles, plasma pistols, plasma rifles, RL's, xl100500 and so on. It's just that they get bought pretty quickly, at least the Combat armor does, it's hard to "catch" at a store.
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I don't think a wipe resolve those populations problem of the server ... even if i like wipes.
For my two cents ; i think a good solution for attract people is doing more little collectives circonstances; caravans are a good exemple : each X hour caravans start a trip in a town, players can join it and defend the caravan with NPC guards, or if they are raiders they can attack caravans with NPC raiders and other players raiders.
If the caravan go safely to his destination, barters of the towns have some supplies, guards players have some rewards (caps, reputation, good XP (like 10kxp) and little stuff) and the faction who control the town have somes bonus too, if raiders win, they rape the supplies for Raiders faction (and lost reputation), raiders barters have more supplies, players gain XP and stuff.
There is enought towns for a lot of caravan by days, that want say the caravans are small pvp/pve circonstance, not like TC with big gangs. It may be more accessible for all players : no big organisation needed, no evil stuff needed, etc ...
TC will be forever the best way for big rewards, so, big factions continues to TC with big organisation etc.. No offense for gangs! This really a big job to do TC ...
There is no way for fast relog, caravan is a trip for only one character by player. If you die, you lose.
It's just an idea who surely be lost in the forum ... More i play Fonline, more i think fonline need some little quests like that with challenge pvp/pve with others players.
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i like the idea but atleast it would be better if u have a small gang on your side . 1 person isnt enough , even if i like the idea but it would look like too falloutish like PA and shit :P