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Basic Discussion Thread:
GO!
For those of you who don't know, The War Z is an ambitious new title coming out for digital distribution. It's goal is to create a hardcore zombie MMO.
More information can be found at http://www.thewarz.com or with a basic google search.
So whose going to preorder this title? Whose excited about playing?
And anyone looking to join a group of players in securing our own land in the game?
BASIC INFORMATION:
IN GAME MARKETPLACE: http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?7595-Marketplace-in-game-currencies-game-economy-Is-game-Pay-4-win
SKILLS: http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?7863-Skill-Trees-and-Training
HARDCORE vs NORMAL: http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?7147-What-is-difference-between-Harcode-and-Normal-gameplay-modes
INVENTORY SYSTEM: http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?8257-UI-Inventory-System
EARLY-ALPHA CITY EXPLORATION: http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?18802-The-War-Z-City-Exploration
CONSTRUCTION: http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?16278-Video-building-climbing
INTERVIEW WITH THE HEAD DEV!!!
http://www.fpsgeneral.com/videos/the-war-z/531-the-war-z-gameplay-interview-w-sergey-titov
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A Zombie MMO hasn't been done well yet, Im excited. this could be good! :D
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This game looks like shit, not going to waste any money for this crap.
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it asks for IRL money so shit
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It's goal is to create a hardcore zombie MMO.
I'm fairly sure DayZ is more hardcore...
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I'm fairly sure DayZ is more hardcore...
Based on what?
There is a hardcore mode in which you will have 1 life with no chance of coming back.
And to the person who mentioned real money... Did you notice that this game runs on real money too? =D
I know it's hard for the FOnline community to see something new as something new AND good... but try ;)
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One of the main strong sides of dayz is its milsim background, with advanced balistic, weather related vision etc etc
War Z being just a cheap ripp off dayz ideas lacks this crucial factor, its just some fps having unrealistic mechanics.
U should rather wait for stand alone version of dayz or join private Hive servers with lower tier weapon only, no hackers and no alt f4 mode implemented.
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One of the main strong sides of dayz is its milsim background, with advanced balistic, weather related vision etc etc
War Z being just a cheap ripp off dayz ideas lacks this crucial factor, its just some fps having unrealistic mechanics.
U should rather wait for stand alone version of dayz or join private Hive servers with lower tier weapon only, no hackers and no alt f4 mode implemented.
So it's strongpoint was using an engine not designed for an MMO to make an MMO?
Also the "advanced ballistics" were removed for DayZ... so if you think your bullets are being affected by wind or correolus affect, think again.
On the point of weather, notice how most servers drop to 0 population when night time, and rain is in progress? I sure did. BORING AS FUUUUCK.
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Also, saying "etc etc" does NOT imply that anyone has any clue what you're talking about.
Everyone here seems to want to go on their gut feeling rather than anything they've tried...
Kinda like you're all christians! =D
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Based on what?
DayZ recoil is something that actually looks like a recoil, WarZ's recoil is pretty much CoD. Might be WIP.
DayZ has a system of breaking your bones, handicapping you. (more realism, but I can't say I really ever liked this in FPS games. WarZ has gone for a more mainstream, health bar approach.
WarZ's zombies are fairly stupid and don't seem to react to sound as much as they do in DayZ. However, this might be a thing they are working on.
So far what we've seen of WarZ, weapons don't seem to be anything particulary scarce, just about everyone is running around with a G36.
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DayZ recoil is something that actually looks like a recoil, WarZ's recoil is pretty much CoD. Might be WIP.
DayZ has a system of breaking your bones, handicapping you. (more realism, but I can't say I really ever liked this in FPS games. WarZ has gone for a more mainstream, health bar approach.
WarZ's zombies are fairly stupid and don't seem to react to sound as much as they do in DayZ. However, this might be a thing they are working on.
So far what we've seen of WarZ, weapons don't seem to be anything particulary scarce, just about everyone is running around with a G36.
So you're judging the game on pre-alpha footage. Okey
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Oh also 'testing for players in Alpha' what the hell? Alpha is not supposed to be beta, they got it a little bit wrong or they are somehow insipired by Minecraft?
On other note, WarZ looks like shit. Weapons accurate as hell, being on every step. Running is slower than snail.
Yes, it is a rip off from DayZ. But much worse.
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Oh also 'testing for players in Alpha' what the hell? Alpha is not supposed to be beta, they got it a little bit wrong or they are somehow insipired by Minecraft?
On other note, WarZ looks like shit. Weapons accurate as hell, being on every step. Running is slower than snail.
Yes, it is a rip off from DayZ. But much worse.
Running is about the same speed as a DayZ run, also the map is 2x as big as DayZ.
They were in fact inspired by the Minecraft release method, and this has been mentioned already, and the community loves these types of deals. We were able to purchase the game for cheaper than retail, or pay extra to donate and recieve some goodies.
Also, any weapons you have seen, are high tier, ultra-rare weapons shown to show off the game.
I'm not sure how you guys are so bad at research, if you found FOnline, why can't you find out the FACTS about the game before you start complaining? I truly don't understand this community. So ignorant, so unwilling to open your mind.
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So you're judging the game on pre-alpha footage. Okey
Then what else should I be looking at? Some rumors a guy in a basement at his computer posts on the internet?
the map is 2x as big as DayZ.
A quote from the developers. Maybe math isn't your strong side?you're getting around 160-170km of playable terrain comparing to 225 sql km of Chernorus
Although, as the developer stated, a quite large piece of Chernorus is water, it still means that the maps are just about equal.
I'm not sure how you guys are so bad at research, if you found FOnline, why can't you find out the FACTS about the game before you start complaining? I truly don't understand this community. So ignorant, so unwilling to open your mind.
I'm surprised by your lack of skepticism (If that's even how you spell it), you just eat every possible information that somebody throws at you, like a hungry dog.
start complaining
I'm not really complaining, I am actually quite waiting for WarZ, but there have been enough times I've seen games keep bad habits from alpha/beta versions. It just makes sense for me to be aware and make predictions.
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Im detecting a flamewar....
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Im detecting a flamewar....
No flamewar, I know how the game feels and plays (at least in its current build) since I was allowed into Alpha much earlier.. It's of no concern of mine whether or not someone wishes to shrug off the potential of a game.
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It actually looks really good, if i can i'll try to fork some money over for this.
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its also cheaper to play day Z and 50 dollars for this shit fuck off
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WOOOW, Can't wait for this
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its also cheaper to play day Z and 50 dollars for this shit fuck off
It is $20 if you buy now...
$30 at release
you can pay $60 for some extra marketplace funds (the real money marketplace only sells cosmetic items, as well as FOOD, NO GUNS)
So actually it's the SAME price to play DayZ as it WILL be to play this at launch.
It's actually CHEAPER if you preorder for $20....
I'm not sure where you get your information sir.
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It actually looks really good, if i can i'll try to fork some money over for this.
If you would like to play together with a group of friends I've already gotten together, you're more then welcome to join our endeavors! The more the merrier! We use mumble to communicate.
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Also it literally copied crysis's weapon attachment system.
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Also it literally copied crysis's weapon attachment system.
Developer have already said they were in fact influenced by the smoothness of the in-game attachment system of Crysis, and yes, they brought the same system over..
Is this a bad thing? Fuck no... how would you rather handle attachements? open a new menu? Lose visibility of a threat in the distance in order to put on a silencer, or scope?
Why are you hung up on these tiny little influences? =D
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I'll be honest with you, I have to agree with TLC on the attachment system. It works well, might not be the most realistic thing, but it's good - it gives a good overview of what you can attach, it's quick and easy.
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I'll be honest with you, I have to agree with TLC on the attachment system. It works well, might not be the most realistic thing, but it's good - it gives a good overview of what you can attach, it's quick and easy.
If one game does something right... Why NOT use it, is my opinion!
I think them using this system gives PROPS and KUDOS to folks at Crytech, it's an homage to good game design. And the people at Crytech shouldn't feel cheated... they should feel proud that they created a game mechanic that may be seen in future games!
I think there is a similar system in Far Cry 3 but I'm not entirely sure.
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WOW, I just watched gameplay of this, I'M GONNA GET THIS!!!!!
guess no more FOnline for me if I do get it
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WOW, I just watched gameplay of this, I'M GONNA GET THIS!!!!!
guess no more FOnline for me if I do get it
I'm playing now! If you'd like to hop on my mumble server and play with me and my buds, please send me a PM! I'm going the bad guy route in this game. Let us rule together!
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Game is /alright/ but all carebears ever do is whine over being killed in an ALPHA. Also flashlight melee dmg nerf lol'd.
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I got ambushed by two guys with flashlights after one minute of playtime, ran into an industrial building, kept them running, started fighting. Hit both of them in the back of their heads, got food and drinks. Then got killed by some guy with a baseball bat. Good first five minutes, game's not working now though, not surprising from early, early alpha. I'll try tomorrow again, seems quite okay though.
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You get alpha access when pre-orderring or what?
EDIT: Nevermind, turns out you do already get alpha access if you buy the pioneer or legend preorder pack.
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I was bleeding to death and ate a candy bar to ease my suffering. ;D I've died 3 times thus far obviously I can't survive a single character in hardcore for over 5 minutes.
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I was bleeding to death and ate a candy bar to ease my suffering. ;D I've died 3 times thus far obviously I can't survive a single character in hardcore for over 5 minutes.
Would you like to group up with a few other survivors? We will slaughter anyone who is not part of our group without mercy. Join us and succeed with us!
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Thanks for the invite but I'm having fun alone trying to escape from crazed flashlight wielding bandits. They are crafty, I tell yah, while I was looting this gas station(?) a nearby flashlight bandito smacked me in the back of my skull and it was lights out for good. I wasn't aware anyone might be near because #1, it was dark out and #2 I assumed the nearby predators would make themself aware by keeping a source of illumination on them.
Also I met a guy with a shotgun. He didn't kill me. It seems in hardcore mode the biggest threat are the flashlight banditos.
So I've learned during the darker hours to keep my flashlight off if I want to remain undetected. Yay for common sense.
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Thanks for the invite but I'm having fun alone trying to escape from crazed flashlight wielding bandits. They are crafty, I tell yah, while I was looting this gas station(?) a nearby flashlight bandito smacked me in the back of my skull and it was lights out for good. I wasn't aware anyone might be near because #1, it was dark out and #2 I assumed the nearby predators would make themself aware by keeping a source of illumination on them.
Also I met a guy with a shotgun. He didn't kill me. It seems in hardcore mode the biggest threat are the flashlight banditos.
So I've learned during the darker hours to keep my flashlight off if I want to remain undetected. Yay for common sense.
Press the letter N for nightvision, it's enabled for now.
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Nice tip. Also patch fixed alot of crashing. Game is slightly more enjoyable for just an alpha.
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Nice tip. Also patch fixed alot of crashing. Game is slightly more enjoyable for just an alpha.
Yeah I'm having ALOT of fun playing with my pals, we just wiped out an entire town of bandits and looted many many weapons =D
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I'll probably find you guys and shake you down with my baseball bat. Fear me. >:(
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Full game keys or beta keys or alpha keys!? What kind of keys are these!?
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Currently have 9 snipers, 3 shotguns, and about 13 assorted pistols stored up. HURRAH!
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/quote
Right now we have a few problems with server hopping:
- Hopping to farm items.
- Hopping to flee danger.
- Hopping to ghost walk (E.g.: You see a defended base, you log off, enter their base from other server, log back on the first server and kill everyone from behind).
- Logging off to store items on safe.
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the thing about ghost walking sounds pretty funny.
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Yeah I've gotten ghost killed a lot as well =[
Good thing about having a group.. we can hunt PKers effectively... so we get their loot fairly legit. =D
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I really want to play this, but I can't.
I don't have a serial key :(
tragic, also, im trying to save up 20 bucks for it
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I play this game and for me is bornig
i am waiting dor a Fallout 3 Online it was be nice
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I play this game and for me is bornig
i am waiting dor a Fallout 3 Online it was be nice
You didn't play the full game. Whatever you played was an unfinished product with unfinished features/textures/graphics/optimizations etc.
I do admit this kind of game only appeals to a certain crowd. But I thought for sure Fonline players would the hardcore nature of this game.
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game is fun but tired of having to haul my loot to a safe zone. stupid patch. :'(
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game is fun but tired of having to haul my loot to a safe zone. stupid patch. :'(
Lol that fixes the entire game....
the game would be TERRIBLE if you were safe right after logging out anywhere... fuck that..
If someone kills me, my team should have until they return to a safe zone to kill them.
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haha, this game is so much fun.
I like starting with nothing and end up with a large back filled with stuff.
One time some guy was asking to team up so I did since wipe near for it, and we killed 2 other players together with hammers and they had shotguns,
it was soo funny, they were raging so much and calling us hackers. This game is fun :D
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Fuck this shit, DayZ beats this pile of crap by a mile...
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Fuck this shit, DayZ beats this pile of crap by a mile...
haha, I bet you don't like WarZ cause you suck at it :D.
I like teaming up with random people and going out to loot, it's fun
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haha, I bet you don't like WarZ cause you suck at it :D.
I like teaming up with random people and going out to loot, it's fun
I don't "suck at it" because I don't spend my money on crap. I've seen alot of gameplays of it to know its just another attempt to make money. A good example is Dead Island which turned out to be shit too, I still regret buying it. Acording to DayZ developers blog, they plan to releases Dayz standalone before this year end. Now thats a quality game worth buying, which I am sure most of you who played DayZ agree with me. So in conclusion I show the usual middle finger to WarZ and to the retards who bought it :D
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Didn't they postponed dayz standalone ? And for hating the game because you can buy stuff with real money ? Well no one is forcing you to buy that stuff nor is this game p2w. It's pretty decent game for an alpha, it has some flaws but they are not game breaking as some people like to bitch and whine about them. Plus I can't understand dayz fanboys why are they filled with hatred towards warz + can't understand that "ooooooo they copied dayz oooooo" shit.
My friends and me went to norad base and killed 2 guys who had like 2 large backpacks filled with guns, they tried to disconnect but I managed to get 2 kill shots with my jericho, but in a process 2 of my friends died and I was left alone to guard those ITANZ. I manged to hold off like 4 guys and I got dced due to lots of items being there when I logged back in some guy was looting mah itanz and he shot me. We lost like 15 guns and shitloads of ammo, but it was a fun run :D
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im waiting for standalone... WarZ is way tooo arcadish :P
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http://kotaku.com/5969784/the-war-z-mess-every-crazy-detail-we-know-so-far
The man behind The War Z helped make one of the worst games of all time. It's called Big Rigs, and it was immortalized by Alex Navarro in this entertaining GameSpot video review. Sergey Titov was the lead programmer on Big Rigs, according to a number of write-ups on the game.
Big Rigs
Some harsh stuff here, and the part about big rigs? Oh _WOW_
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Wow i was conned but thank steam for my money back FUCK YOUR SHITTY DEVS COPY AND PASTE FUCKS
it even looks like Arma 2 and has the same issues of Arma 2's dayz +more
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I have to admit the game is not as good as Day Z, but hey, for 20 bucks? That's like taking your girlfriend out to dinner or something.
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They "relased" the goddamn thing for a full price where it infact is unfinished... Faith lost.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsWUxExRYlE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsWUxExRYlE
You foreigners are weird.
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What has this to do with foreigners?
Also, that clusterfuck of a game and all the things attached are very amusing to watch.
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You foreigners are weird.
And you're an idiot, assuming you didn't even understand the video.
Don't you know that the trademark has been suspended because of all the bull-shit around it?
Random bans for any amount of criticism, moderators giving bans to those they simply don't agree with, throwing gear around for free to their friends, False Advertising, and the list goes on.
WarZ had potential I admit but it's shit because of the worst possible management in history.
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And you're an idiot, assuming you didn't even understand the video.
Don't you know that the trademark has been suspended because of all the bull-shit around it?
Random bans for any amount of criticism, moderators giving bans to those they simply don't agree with, throwing gear around for free to their friends, False Advertising, and the list goes on.
WarZ had potential I admit but it's shit because of the worst possible management in history.
Not sure what you're talking about.. I didn't mention any of that... Don't care either.. The video was just really stupid... REALLY stupid.
It's on the same level as the moderators of this forum.
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The video just sarcastically (and I'd dare to say to some degree even satire-ishly) based on the happenings with WarZ. It's just... It's not even subtle, it is just... Actually, forget it.
Aa-anyway...
This thing dropped: http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?85497-Open-Letter-to-The-War-Z-and-PC-Gaming-community-from-Sergey-Titov
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The video just sarcastically (and I'd dare to say to some degree even satire-ishly) based on the happenings with WarZ. It's just... It's not even subtle, it is just... Actually, forget it.
Aa-anyway...
This thing dropped: http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?85497-Open-Letter-to-The-War-Z-and-PC-Gaming-community-from-Sergey-Titov
Yeah Sergey is a fucking idiot. There is NO GAME that should EVER have this much controversy around it... Diablo 3 should have been the worst game release and biggest dissappointment to gamers.... War Z and it's publishers are taking that spot over EASILY.
Sergey is a moron, first off for not letting someone spell check his shit... he can't speak english why the fuck is he the voice of the company...
We could let him off the hook for this if what he was creating wasn't shit...
"oh you don't speak english but your game is great...? okay fine"
Nah...
"your game is shit, you don't speak english, AND you think it's a good idea to speak out for your game?"
Lol to this entire development team.
RUSSIANS SHOULD NOT BE PRODUCING GAMES!
Let's look at the list of flopped Russian developed games:
ARMA
ARMA II (bugs, glitches, optimization)
CANNON FODDER 3
STALKER series (good series.. but russian devs means 1000% bugs and glitches)
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What is one good game that came out of Russia?
Tetris...
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RUSSIANS SHOULD NOT BE PRODUCING GAMES!
(http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/smiles/hmmm.png)
Perhaps "The Lost Children" should not post here either?
It's even more funny since ARMA was developed by Czechs and STALKER was developed in the Ukraine. Please tell us more about your vast knowledge of Russia and its games.
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Wooo....stalker series ftw!!
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(http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/smiles/hmmm.png)
Perhaps "The Lost Children" should not post here either?
It's even more funny since ARMA was developed by Czechs and STALKER was developed in the Ukraine. Please tell us more about your vast knowledge of Russia and its games.
Moderators get touchy about nothin'.
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What is one good game that came out of Russia?
Tetris...
Tetris is good,I like tetris. But it needs a better TC system.
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Well ignoring the fact that most of the games you listed were not russian developed at all, I have to say you must not have a clue about what a flop is to believe arma and arma II were flops. (As a side note the cossacks series from GSC were fantastic)
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Read through your wall of text.
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I'm sorry, but, what the actual crap are you talking about?
"You don't speak english" and other rage consisting of idiotism about languages.
Let's take Cvet, the Russian dude who is responsible for the creation of FOnline (cookies to him), as an example. In this case I'm going to regard the video he posted where he spoke about FOnline engine getting 3D support. Were the English subtitles perfect? Definitely not. There is a thing, that when a developer makes a PERSONAL note or letter to everyone from HIMSELF it is VERY rarely (if ever) given to anyone to spellcheck or proofread his text. It comes from him to you. It's like someone sent a PM over the forums to you, it's obvious he isn't going to give it to anyone to check for grammar mistakes. Is your English perfect? No. Do your posts make alot of sense? No. According to this quote (please note, this is your quote), I can bash your skull with a brick for being a "moron" just as you stated in your post:"your game is shit, you don't speak english, AND you think it's a good idea to speak out for your game?"
So, let me rephrase that.
To: The Lost Children
Text: Your post is shit, you don't speak perfectly English AND you think it's a good idea to make your opinion look any smart?
Really, that argument is just absurd. You are talking out of your arse all over again.
So, let's move on to analyzing your blatantly stupid post.Stuff about "Russians" making games.
First off, as many have already said, none of the listed games are created by Russians, except for Cannon Fodder 3, which was created by a development team that is half Russian and half Ukrainian.
Then you mentioned S.T.A.L.K.E.R.. That is where you flopped. Was Fallout buggy? Yes, a little. Was Deus Ex, Vampire - The Masquerade, Counter-Strike buggy? Yes, riddled with bugs (Well, in case of CS people quite literally made them features). Does that make these games bad? No. Even more so, you tie in your Russian-phobia again and state that is the reason why the game is buggy. Bethesda - non-Russian company, was Fallout 3 buggy? Buggy as shit! Has there ever been a TES game released that isn't buggy? Fuck, no!
Infact, every game you mentioned (Except for CF3) has been far more successful than you think. ARMA II still holds the title for the most realistic modern combat simulator to date (however is kind ruined due to all the DayZ hype thing going on). S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl has sold more than 2 million copies which is quite a bit more than the developers expected when releasing the game.
I'm sorry, but I just refuse to go into your mindless post any further, it makes my head go boiling and makes me want to play any of the games you mentioned just to put an ironic smile on my face.
EDIT: I put too much effort when writing this. I shouldn't spend so much time "educating" idiots.
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EDIT: I put too much effort when writing this. I shouldn't spend so much time "educating" idiots.
yep
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What is one good game that came out of Russia?
Don't forget Metro 2033 its a good game IMO
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Let's take Cvet, the Russian dude
Actually... i believe cvet is from Belarus
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@Mayck - it doesn't matter as my sole point was to just prove nobody is perfect. I could have taken any developer, FOnline related or not. As I said, the whole argument he brought about languages is purely absurd.
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lazyness
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Currently in WarZ I have 160+ guns and 5 of them are snipers :P
and lots of ammo and food and body armor and TONS of gas masks because I like them
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Pretty much hackers ruined that game for me so I rage quited, when you are with 5-6 of your friends and some dude starts nocliping and kills your whole team with a hammer and then flies away to saftey it's to least say retarded. I'll see how the new anticheat works.