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Title: Help with PvE char
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on September 24, 2012, 01:34:13 pm
Was thinking about playing again (haven't played since feb). I already have a 24 level PvP sniper and a level 12 PvE thief. But was thinking leveling up a PvE HtH char for high tire critter encounters. Had few ideas in mind, which do you guys think is better (can such builds even farm), for farming high tier encounters. I am hoping build 1 & 3 would work as it would be funny too see critters crippling/critical failure themselves because of jinxed. Some advice please.

Build 1:
SPECIAL=1,6,10,1,2,10,10 (power-fist/mega-power-fist + Jet optional)
Heavy handed + jinxed char with Limewire, Bonus HtH damage+, In Your Face, Lifegiver, Lifegiver+, bonus HtH Attacks, HtH criticals,  Dodger+,

Build2: (AC whore)
Heavy handed + Kamikaze with Limewire, Bonus HtH damage+, In Your Face, HtH evade, HtH evade+, bonus HtH Attacks, HtH criticals, dodger+

Build 3:
Same as build 1 except take adrenaline rush, toughness + even tougher instead of lifegiver perks & dodger+ perk.
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Rain on September 24, 2012, 02:17:55 pm
Was thinking about playing again (haven't played since feb). I already have a 24 level PvP sniper and a level 12 PvE thief. But was thinking leveling up a PvE HtH char for high tire critter encounters. Had few ideas in mind, which do you guys think is better (can such builds even farm), for farming high tier encounters. I am hoping build 1 & 3 would work as it would be funny too see critters crippling/critical failure themselves because of jinxed. Some advice please.

Build 1:
SPECIAL=1,6,10,1,2,10,10 (power-fist/mega-power-fist + Jet optional)
Heavy handed + jinxed char with Limewire, Bonus HtH damage+, In Your Face, Lifegiver, Lifegiver+, bonus HtH Attacks, HtH criticals,  Dodger+,

Build2: (AC whore)
Heavy handed + Kamikaze with Limewire, Bonus HtH damage+, In Your Face, HtH evade, HtH evade+, bonus HtH Attacks, HtH criticals, dodger+

Build 3:
Same as build 1 except take adrenaline rush, toughness + even tougher instead of lifegiver perks & dodger+ perk.

Personally,if you need farming i wouldn t rely on hth.Try something like this.240 hp more or less,6 laser shot or 2 burst with bg guns,or 6 ar rifle shots,tag whatever//Insane carry weight and 14 ap,enjoy your farming.
Fast shot.
bonus move
strong back
pack rat
action boyx2
brof
lifeg,lifeg plus.
s7
p6
e10
c1
i5
a10
l1
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: TrashCan on September 24, 2012, 02:47:11 pm
I agree with Rain, however if you really want to stick with HtH what kind of encounters exactly you have in mind?
I assume you consider RT farming here. In my opinion, Build2 and AC perks won't be much of a use here because you would have to be constanly in move to utilize AC, and critters would most likley just run after you istead of shooting.
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on September 24, 2012, 03:10:17 pm
I agree with Rain, however if you really want to stick with HtH what kind of encounters exactly you have in mind?
I assume you consider RT farming here. In my opinion, Build2 and AC perks won't be much of a use here because you would have to be constanly in move to utilize AC, and critters would most likley just run after you istead of shooting.
I would like to farm high tier stuff like BOS.
I was thinking same, plus  will be standing when in hand to hand so AC perks wont save me all that much.
I am also inclined to change Str to 6, and Pe to 1 and use psycho & beer as option for extra +20 damage resistance.
So maybe something like this:
SPECIAL=6,1,10,1,2,10,10 (with power fist + beer+ psycho)
Heavy handed + jinxed char with Limewire, Bonus HtH damage+, In Your Face,  even tougher, adrenaline rush, toughness, bonus HtH Attacks, HtH criticals.

I am hoping that a 'potential' max of 50/8- Resistance/DT + 50% chance critters will miss (In Your face perk), when I am within 1hex, along with all the critical failures to critters because of jinxed will keep me alive!?
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: racoon on September 24, 2012, 06:56:57 pm
forget farming bos with hth char. make hybrid sg/bg char with 12 ap's and 3x brd. or 285hp tank with toughness perks and psycho + beer.

anyway, im pretty sure that strength 1 + heavy handed will not work effectively since kd is related to strength
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Roachor on September 24, 2012, 07:04:41 pm
forget farming bos with hth char. make hybrid sg/bg char with 12 ap's and 3x brd. or 285hp tank with toughness perks and psycho + beer.

anyway, im pretty sure that strength 1 + heavy handed will not work effectively since kd is related to strength
this, you want HH and kamikaze, 10 str, 10 agi, 1pe, 1luck, 1 cha, 10 end
put all your perks into ac and use the last 3 for in your face, hth and hth+

or if you want to solo bos take fast shot instead of kamikaze(5 dmg per punch that bypasses armour, takes forever on armoured targets otherwise.

You don't want bruiser since hh is all about attack speed
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on September 24, 2012, 07:51:49 pm
Well I decided to go with HtH. I leveled up to level 3 quite quickly on m.molerats. Only problem is 'key binding' to auto aim doesn't seem to work with hth. Albeit I can still aim manually to different body parts, this restricts me to TB as Aiming manually is almost impossible in RT? Is this a know bug? Very annoying and somewhat game breaking.
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: racoon on September 24, 2012, 08:25:42 pm
it works with any knuckles. only doesnt with bare hand
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Roachor on September 24, 2012, 08:33:05 pm
spiked knucks are a huge improvement, 15% crit from haymaker is useless unless you are trying to cripple
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on September 27, 2012, 10:58:37 am
My PvE unarmed farmer:
I went with SPECIAL 6,1,10,1,2,10,10
HH + Jinxed

I am currently approaching level 12

Current traits:
Adrenaline rush
Bonus HtH damage+
Even Tougher

Now here's the dilemma:
I plan to get: In Your Face, HtH attacks.

Now I cannot decide on other perks, should I go with-> 1. Action Boy x2 + Bonus Move (and make it a TB farmer) or 2. Go with HtH criticals + Tougher + Bonus Move (combined with beer+ Psycho also gaining +20 additional resistance), for a high res farmer but obviously loose x2AP.

I am leaning towards option 2. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: racoon on September 27, 2012, 01:09:04 pm
I am leaning towards option 2. What do you guys think?

i think it doesnt matter since unarmed can farm only shit tier critters. and for farming shit tier critters you can use any build
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Cyber Jesus on September 27, 2012, 01:20:34 pm
i think it doesnt matter since unarmed can farm only shit tier critters. and for farming shit tier critters you can use any build
I farmed Enclave once with HtH and it went pretty good
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: racoon on September 27, 2012, 01:55:07 pm
I farmed Enclave once with HtH and it went pretty good

you need STONE, 12 ap's and heavy handed + 10 st to do that.
you could also cripple his arm with crit hth but i dont think so.

in both cases there can be only 1 soldier.

i tried heavy hand attack them. i have 9 ap's and 10 st but they still menage to get up recover ap's and burst me.
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Roachor on September 27, 2012, 05:10:46 pm
You can farm anything you can get alone with hh, all you need is 10 str and 10 agi and fast shot for the bypass. I solo BOS/enclave using zombies (the whole build is visible if you click the link). Stonewall works well with HH because they both need 10 str to work 100% but its not necessary since whatever you kill will never get the chance to shoot. 10 agi + punch means 1 hit every second which is faster than the animation to stand.
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on September 28, 2012, 01:54:44 am
Would something like this work for TB farming:

SPECIAL: 10,1,10,1, 7, 10, 1
Tag skills:Unarmed, FA, Outdoorsman
HH + fastshot

HtH
HtH+
Bonus Move
In Your Face
Action Boy
Action Boy
Bonus HtH attacks
Stonewall

edit:
p.s. Roachor-> would like to have look at 'Zombies' but your link don't seem to work.
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Roachor on September 28, 2012, 06:42:56 am
http://fonline2238.net/vtdb/char.php?38022

just take the "sig url" out
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: racoon on September 28, 2012, 02:04:59 pm
Would something like this work for TB farming:

SPECIAL: 10,1,10,1, 7, 10, 1
Tag skills:Unarmed, FA, Outdoorsman
HH + fastshot

HtH
HtH+
Bonus Move
In Your Face
Action Boy
Action Boy
Bonus HtH attacks
Stonewall

edit:
p.s. Roachor-> would like to have look at 'Zombies' but your link don't seem to work.

heavy handed works different way in TB. dude, seriously i can give you very good farmer build for sg/bg, ew/bg or even sg/bg/ew. just give up this idea to farm tb with unarmed.

and btw, are you trolling all of us with these questions and ideas?
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on September 29, 2012, 08:37:22 am
@ Racoon
Not trolling just completely new to unarmed farming.

@ Roachor
I Like the build (Zombies). You think it would be worth it to try and fit 'living anatomy' to stack with 'fast shot'?

Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: racoon on September 29, 2012, 11:43:54 am
can i ask you what would you like to farm with this unarmed build? in tb?
in tb heavy handed takes opponent ap's only once.
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on September 29, 2012, 02:04:49 pm
Well thanks for ideas posted. I decided to level a Kamikaze + HH + 220AC stonewall char (seems most FUN).
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: racoon on September 29, 2012, 06:16:13 pm
dont forget that EVERYTHING will be escaping from you if you will have 220 ac (ac will be limited again in next update). even unity patrols. also enclave is not affected by jinxed and 220 ac. they still kill you in 1 shot. have fun with your fail ideas
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Roachor on September 29, 2012, 08:22:11 pm
dont forget that EVERYTHING will be escaping from you if you will have 220 ac (ac will be limited again in next update). even unity patrols. also enclave is not affected by jinxed and 220 ac. they still kill you in 1 shot. have fun with your fail ideas

AC in TB is way more effective
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Cyber Jesus on September 29, 2012, 09:25:32 pm
Yes AC in tb is much better
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: racoon on September 30, 2012, 12:57:58 am
yes it works after you move 5 hexes but then all critters escape from you so good luck.
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Cyber Jesus on September 30, 2012, 05:45:42 pm
no in tb they just stand still for 20 seconds, like that bugged bitch raider with spear
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on September 30, 2012, 05:58:27 pm
I actually leveled x2 version- a HTH + Fast-shot & HtH +Kami.
By level 3 I decided to go with HtH + Fast-shot (plan to make AC 180), and take bonus HtH damage, livewire, dodger, dodger +, stonewall, HtH evade, HtH evade+, Bonus hth Attacks.
The fastshot +5 auto damage is real nice, and since i wanted a pve farmer and not a troll build I will continue to level the former build.

I also have option for 160AC with 'In Your Face" perk by dropping 'HtH evade'. What do you guys think 180AC or 160AC with 'In Your Face' perk?
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Roachor on September 30, 2012, 07:04:52 pm
in your face is better since it helps with pve and pvp and ac is useless at close range
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on September 30, 2012, 10:41:47 pm
Thanks Roachor. Well I guess all the real fun will start after I level up. \(^o^)/


edit: Is it still possible to farm powerfists by way of Press Gang + Elronologists encounters?
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: racoon on October 01, 2012, 08:58:49 am
yes it is
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Bulldog on October 01, 2012, 11:17:03 pm
Forget about jinxed if you want to make an ac hth farmer, critters are not gonna attack you unless they can hit you, so chances of critical misses for them are pretty slim. (Unless there is something I don't know and they attack even when their ctc is lower than 95%)
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on October 01, 2012, 11:43:45 pm
Forget about jinxed if you want to make an ac hth farmer, critters are not gonna attack you unless they can hit you, so chances of critical misses for them are pretty slim. (Unless there is something I don't know and they attack even when their ctc is lower than 95%)
Agree, I decided against using 'jinxed', instead went with 'heavy handed+Fast Shot'.
p.s. just reached level 17 \(^o^)/
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Roachor on October 02, 2012, 03:48:10 am
Hh without fast shot sucks, the damage all gets absorbed
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on October 02, 2012, 10:57:30 am
Hh without fast shot sucks, the damage all gets absorbed
Agreed, I am still thinking whether to take living anatomy for extra +2 damage on top of the +5 from fast shot instead of stonewall. For farming stonewall might not be so crucial.
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: Roachor on October 02, 2012, 03:20:33 pm
Honestly stonewall helps but isn't crucial, main reason I took it was the requirement synergy with HH.
Title: Re: Help with PvE char
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on October 02, 2012, 10:56:24 pm
I went with stonewall.

In an update I leveled up and killed my first unity patrol and got some laser rifles and micro fusion cells for my efforts. The build looks promising :]