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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: Hawker on September 03, 2012, 09:38:45 pm
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On server status this afternoon.For all the Peoples who complain this game dead the server popularity getting up!
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No one hasn't complained about the server being dead, like a month ago...
Yet again, another useless thread...
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On server status this afternoon.For all the Peoples who complain this game dead the server popularity getting up!
It's PvP players doing fights with massive amounts of FR.
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50% was probably BBS SOT COA and all our FR...
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50% was probably BBS SOT COA and all our FR...
My alt died in the battle when I was running xD
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My alt died in the battle when I was running xD
good for you !
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good for you !
Nice sarcasm, bro...
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just alts, dude, just alts.
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First you need to count 2-3 alts or who knows how many for 1 real player. And you'll get to the point that 213 players are not amazing.
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okay thanks for support !! i was trying to make a positive post for the server!
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Hahaha good one. I used once 15snadboxie alts in bh toilet So 1pvper during tc is more like 3-4
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there is like about 70 real players online and others are alts
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I checked a couple times in different hours and number of characters with the same IP was in
a range from ~15% to ~30%. In peak hours during pvp with FR it can be around 30% but nowhere
near 50% or even 70% like some people say (no idea where such experts get their numbers from
as they have no tools to check anything except current number of characters. Just usual BS.
I just checked log from yesterday at 21:23 CEST - with 211 characters online there was 144 unique
IPs, which probably can be roughly translated to number of players online (so with the largest gangs
relogging like crazy during PvP the alts were about 32% of server).
I'm not saying that it's not a lot. Personally I would prefer server without FR, because it just creates
a huge gap between power gamers and casual players and excludes the latter from PvP. Even with
a hybrid character you might get lucky and win 1 vs 1, but not if the other person has 5 alts over town.
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(so with the largest gangs
relogging like crazy during PvP the alts were about 32% of server).
32% ? Waw...
You know what that means, guys ? We can do better ! Lvl up your alts faster, damnit, and don't stop until we get 100% increase from alts !
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i think today we all should log in as many alts as we can at the same time and see how many "players" we can get online. ;)
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I swear if we get 1000+ players on FOnline: 2238, I'll clear out my base and give to newbies...
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No one hasn't complained about the server being dead, like a month ago...
People are complaining about the game being dead soon since the first day of public beta.
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I checked a couple times in different hours and number of characters with the same IP was in
a range from ~15% to ~30%. In peak hours during pvp with FR it can be around 30% but nowhere
near 50% or even 70% like some people say (no idea where such experts get their numbers from
as they have no tools to check anything except current number of characters. Just usual BS.
I just checked log from yesterday at 21:23 CEST - with 211 characters online there was 144 unique
IPs, which probably can be roughly translated to number of players online (so with the largest gangs
relogging like crazy during PvP the alts were about 32% of server).
I'm not saying that it's not a lot. Personally I would prefer server without FR, because it just creates
a huge gap between power gamers and casual players and excludes the latter from PvP. Even with
a hybrid character you might get lucky and win 1 vs 1, but not if the other person has 5 alts over town.
I agree, the server will have two players fighting each other and will be 200 "players" online. Nice system and good work people .Keep it up!
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I'm not saying that it's not a lot. Personally I would prefer server without FR, because it just creates
a huge gap between power gamers and casual players and excludes the latter from PvP. Even with
a hybrid character you might get lucky and win 1 vs 1, but not if the other person has 5 alts over town.
I can talk smart on the forum and bitch as much as i want, but you can actually do something about it, it's not like someone is going to stop playing if he can't put 5 alts over world map and use them effectively.
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,22221.msg184030.html#msg184030
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I'm not saying that it's not a lot. Personally I would prefer server without FR, because it just creates
a huge gap between power gamers and casual players and excludes the latter from PvP. Even with
a hybrid character you might get lucky and win 1 vs 1, but not if the other person has 5 alts over town.
Two things:
1. The gap between power gamers and casual players is larger when "power gamers" bypass fastrelog (duallog, proxy, second pc, whatever) and "casuals" are just stuck looking at the timer, not when all of them are able to fast relog.
2. Hybrid characters in Pvp do not exist for two or three sessions, dunno what you are talking about.
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Two things:
1. The gap between power gamers and casual players is larger when "power gamers" bypass fastrelog (duallog, proxy, second pc, whatever) and "casuals" are just stuck looking at the timer, not when all of them are able to fast relog.
2. Hybrid characters in Pvp do not exist for two or three sessions, dunno what you are talking about.
1. "power gamers" will be small cells in this situation, whole teams will stop using 5 alts on world map, you fail understand that for the countless time.
2. Jovanka is talking about the times when 1 PvP character was enough for anyone to come and do some TC, doesn't have to be a hybrid PvP character. ( some newer player who doesn't have 10 alts will have a chance to stand up against all other teams who are bringing x amount of alts(per person) over town, or those who don't have time )
We been over this ... i dunno 100 times now, you want to go this circle again?
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BBS are good bsers for sure.
As long as punishments are enforced onto fast relog and dual log, the amount of people abusing such things was and will be incredibly small. Only will they use it covertly, never swarm 20 alts after they lose 1 set of them. Maybe a sneaker or two, not like this shit now. Hell just the fear of it kept pretty much everyone but a few from using it.
The power gap between abusers and honest players would be pretty small on average.
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As long as punishments are enforced onto fast relog and dual log
Few permanent bananas are mighty effective for the largest factions, once or twice a month.
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1. "power gamers" will be small cells in this situation, whole teams will stop using 5 alts on world map, you fail understand that for the countless time.
An example how small cells work in T-888's gang:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/246usma.png)
Source:
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,22171.msg183411.html#msg183411
You're a joke again, triptroll.
Let's face the truth: you need fast relog removed so you can continue what you are doing right now while others are less likely to do that.
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Few permanent bananas are mighty effective for the largest factions, once or twice a month.
I like when someone thinking. I like this idea because fonline was survive game . Death in this game is no longer the most terrible thing ... when someone dies just log in other char ??? . They are trying to create a "realistic" game but still allows one man running around X times.
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On server status this afternoon.For all the Peoples who complain this game dead the server popularity getting up!
Remember (in)official 2238 calculation!
(Amount of players online / 3,5) - (Amount of players online / 0,5)
So if you see 213 Players online, there are 60 players online. Some triplelog, others quadlog. (The little amount is newbies/lone wolfs that play in 1 Window.)
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Quite the opposite, the only one who is a joke is you. Think about if you were playing and your team was on that list, the picture would be different and not all are my faction members on that screen, including those who aren't crossed out. Furthermore completely all of the dual logs are just sneakers/taxi/looter + combat character, not cmbt char + cmbt char + cmbt char like FR allows (looks like screen before or after fight, makes a lot of difference), hey it's no secret all factions use them. It's been like that always before, all factions had enough scouts/taxi etc. etc. now you are showing some screen and hoping it will prove some point witch should automatically justify FR on the level you are practicing it? No, i don't think so.
Kilgore, you lack rational thought process.
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A kid like you would be never able to understand that this screen makes your words on the topic totally ridiculous, kid.
Now, please go on with your "no, you!" verbal destruction ;D
now you are showing some screen and hoping it will prove some point witch should automatically justify FR on the level you are practicing it? No, i don't think so.
Witch says that fast relogs don't help you too much recently, though you have indeed mad skillz to fastrelog your entire dead team efficiently!
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Everybody knows your crusade against FR is due to your false conviction that without that you'd be the only one capable of cheating the system and alt spamming in PvP. Heck, even unrelated people who know you said this a couple of times in the past, not to mention your hilarious exchange with Jovanka in which you explicitly stated that you're going to multilog on proxy and there's nothing she can do. What makes your constant whine even funnier is the fact that in setpiece scenarios with one alt per player and no AIs you're absolutely free for most people here. It's a shame that there are no kill:death ratio statistics for PvP, because instead of writing another obvious post I could just link to that instead.
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Allow TC with weaker alts.
So everyone can be in on it.
And kick thieves from factions (Enclave/BoS) after being caught once robbing the patrols.
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Everybody knows your crusade against FR is due to your false conviction that without that you'd be the only one capable of cheating the system and alt spamming in PvP.
Next time read what i said. Couldn't be more wrong.
Magic expert of knowing who cheats and who doesn't, who is better in 1vs1 situations bhahah, nice joke man.
What makes your constant whine even funnier is the fact that in setpiece scenarios with one alt per player and no AIs you're absolutely free for most people here.
Keep forgeting your biggest fleet of alts on WM in the server of everyone, bomb 3 characters => bbs shows up with 3 more, bomb 3 more => 3 more shows up instantly, we know you reinforce in lighting speed and keep fooling yourself that all fights are won on 1vs1 situations, forget your fleet of alts right? ;D
Upon FR removal there is nobody going to cheat more or someone less, it's a fucking delusion for you, unbelievable .... ;D ;D
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Ofc this bombers wasnt dual logers...
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Ofc this bombers wasnt dual logers...
Or that famous TNB "fail commanders" with muties ;D
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Ofc this bombers wasnt dual logers...
What if i told you no? Don't need no dual log to blow a character, it's another alt waiting on world map used by FR. I don't see anyone else doing that, because other teams haven't such a dedicated member who is interested in doing this, just like other teams don't use mutants not because they couldn't make a dual or spend some caps, but they just don't have a character for that, aren't interested etc. etc. I went to play play with COA one day and confirmed that. You don't see anyone but hawks deploying slaves in TC/New reno, because they have a dedicated member who really likes to do that for his own sake of fun, you don't see anyone else but BBS deploying anti-troll characters, not because other teams couldn't level up, but as you yourself pointed out some of you actually like to shoot those bluesuits and i understand that.
But do everyone likes to drag 3-5 combat alts per town to be able to fight, to stand any chance at all? Does everyone have time for all that logistics, alts to do that? Does everyone thinks it is fun? No, that is not the case.
Removing FR isn't going to make someone cheat less or more.
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But do everyone likes to drag 3-5 combat alts per town to be able to fight, to stand any chance at all? Does everyone have time for all that logistics, alts to do that? Does everyone thinks it is fun? No, that is not the case.
Does everyone likes to get bombed with dual loger/fr - bomber ?
Does everyone likes to get swarmed by super mutants dual loger/fr ?
Does everyone likes to get killed by dual loger/fr sneakers?
Does evereone thinks it is fun?
You answered to Yourself alrdy.
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As Belzebu once said: I'm a legion. Chapter 6; Article 6; Page 6.
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Does everyone likes to get bombed with dual loger/fr - bomber ?
Does everyone likes to get swarmed by super mutants dual loger/fr ?
Does everyone likes to get killed by dual loger/fr sneakers?
Does evereone thinks it is fun?
You can into PvP without bombers(rare as hell, not gazillion alts per person witch is mandatory)/mutants (whole start of wipe first 3-4 months no mutants seen anywhere, in large fights especially can be easily neglected with proper strategy) and sneakers are used for scouting not killing(sneaker advantage can be so easily neglected it's not funny when someone starts killing them just before the fight and your blind), good morning. You cannot into PvP if you don't have enough alts, you just simply can't and there is no way around that, there is a bit of a difference don't you think so?
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There was no mutants coz You had SD sneakers, dont You remebre that?
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2uypoxs.jpg)
Now when SD nades are fixed, You have less options to kill players on dual log/FR b4 You enter with main alt.
I bet You dont remembre logged off alts with bombs on them, right? Also fixed.
Fast Relog not only make things fair, but remove a huge pain in the ass, for everything, except maybe pvp. (and even then, a lot of pvp faction support it)
FR fixed the problem of SD trolls/Bombers/Mutants and dual loggers.
You are totaly wrong T888 but looks like you cant understand it. Get used to new situation or move to Requiem... oh, i forgot there are FRs and waves of alts.
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Personally I would prefer server without FR, because it just creates
a huge gap between power gamers and casual players and excludes the latter from PvP. Even with
a hybrid character you might get lucky and win 1 vs 1, but not if the other person has 5 alts over town.
Indeed, we are better off without fast relog, is there a will on the behalf of devs to change that? Or shall we continue to make massive numbers of pvp alts?
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I have made many suggestions how to avoid alting but didnt get single answear from dev team...
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So much off topic about SD, random screenshots again, mentioning requiem(da fuk). Can't get more irrelevant than that, SD sneakers didn't have any effect on mutant usage, there were other reasons they weren't used, only recently ... well relatively recently players evolved, realized ... hey that loyalty for mercenaries isn't that bad for short term usage and they aren't that expensive, including BBS.
You are totaly wrong T888 but looks like you cant understand it.
Could BBS stop trolling on forums? Can't you understand it is immature?
There are quite a lot of players that have made consensus about this feature, those who don't agree ... well it's pretty much only BBS, that means you are thinking in a box and you can't see past walls of ignorance to agree on anything most of time anyway.
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,22221.msg184030.html#msg184030
Look at that poll results, those numbers who voted no pretty much reflects your active member amount in that time and there was someone who accidentally clicked no, and someone who didn't understand how it worked and voted no, though changed opinion about it when understood it.
Means if anyone is wrong, it's you and your buddies.
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http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,22221.msg184030.html#msg184030
100% agreed with your fast relog solution. fast relog SHOULD exist. just not in PVP.
PS: I find it funny that some time ago (this session) ALL my characters got banned because i made 20 burster characters and caused grief in NCR, but if fast relog is used in PvP, there's no problem?
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100% agreed with your fast relog solution. fast relog SHOULD exist. just not in PVP.
PS: I find it funny that some time ago (this session) ALL my characters got banned because i made 20 burster characters and caused grief in NCR, but if fast relog is used in PvP, there's no problem?
Because in guarded town you can't defend yourself, you can only leave location or stop playing altogether.
In unguarded town it doesn't matter, if you really think there is no difference go and troll with your 20 alts there.
You abused character registration feature to avoid consequences of your actions (reputation penalty).
That's why you were banned.
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So was it 20 level 1-6 alts with SMGs?
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So was it 20 level 1-6 alts with SMGs?
just level 1. they had 95% chance at 1 hex so no point in leveling them.
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Because in guarded town you can't defend yourself, you can only leave location or stop playing altogether.
In unguarded town it doesn't matter, if you really think there is no difference go and troll with your 20 alts there.
You abused character registration feature to avoid consequences of your actions (reputation penalty).
That's why you were banned.
This makes absolutely no sense.
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what? you don't understand why guarded town is the least safe yet the unguraded is safer? Well actually it isn't but thats the logic Jovanka is going by, and shes a dev so....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z25TElBzqX8