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Title: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: TrashCan on August 21, 2012, 04:20:58 pm
Someone is bug-blocking entrances to brahmin pens in most (if not every) towns by placing Players Ear in the gate. Mods/Devs please remove hitbox from that item.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: ronillon on August 21, 2012, 04:23:08 pm
Someone is bug-blocking entrances to brahmin pens in most (if not every) towns by placing Players Ear in the gate. Mods/Devs please remove hitbox from that item.

JovankaB is doing some changes about brahmin pens, so they are closed temporarilly.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Brujah on August 21, 2012, 04:23:33 pm
Someone is bug-blocking entrances to brahmin pens in most (if not every) towns by placing Players Ear in the gate. Mods/Devs please remove hitbox from that item.

It's just another Brahmin conspiracy to take over the server, don't fight against it, it's the inevitable.


All we can do is hope GMs give us Brahmin skin before we all become slaves.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: TrashCan on August 21, 2012, 04:35:00 pm
JovankaB is doing some changes about brahmin pens, so they are closed temporarilly.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: JovankaB on August 21, 2012, 04:37:38 pm
What a surprise someone wants to use these horrible pens.

The pens are bugged after last update (brahmin can escape them) so I locked the ones in major towns until it's fixed.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: ronillon on August 21, 2012, 04:48:55 pm
What a surprise someone wants to use these horrible pens.

The pens are bugged after last update (brahmin can escape them) so I locked the ones in major towns until it's fixed.

You should have left that, might as well be fun. Brahmins running thru the town. Hey, how about an event like that, big bunch of brahmins running thru the Hub or NCR.

P.S.: You could make a special item for blocking, with a description, that dev/GM put it there.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Rascal on August 21, 2012, 04:59:49 pm
It looks like Brahmin Pen Embargo
Shit just got real!
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: T-888 on August 21, 2012, 05:20:46 pm
Drink coffee, do stupid things faster with more energy.

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5016/stupidthings.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/stupidthings.png/)
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Stration on August 21, 2012, 05:25:46 pm
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2s668au.png)

Damn it, I knew I shouldn't have posted this (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,25423.msg214400.html#msg214400).

Now they won't open the pens until they figure out a way to make my flawless shoveler build useless.

Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: T-888 on August 21, 2012, 05:44:22 pm
(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1466/strainmightkillyou.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/strainmightkillyou.png/)
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Slaver Snipe on August 21, 2012, 07:10:55 pm
Luckily I was smart and logged out in the brahmin pen!  I shall have all the shit to myself, all the while being protected from thieves!
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Rascal on August 21, 2012, 07:17:56 pm
Shit Embargo Broken!

Economy in crysis!
Server shutting down in...3....2....1....
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Alexandrite on August 21, 2012, 07:33:20 pm
Luckily I was smart and logged out in the brahmin pen!  I shall have all the shit to myself, all the while being protected from thieves!

That means if I logged off into one of those pens, I can't bomb them brahmin anymore for their hides...
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Roachor on August 22, 2012, 01:42:51 am
After all the hard work jovanka did on the poop algorithms  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: falloutdude on August 22, 2012, 01:45:02 am
After all the hard work jovanka did on the poop algorithms  :'( :'(
hard work yes. this poop thing must have been the most  scripting that devs did in a long time, which is why they dont want it to go away.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Brujah on August 22, 2012, 03:03:01 am
Luckily I was smart and logged out in the brahmin pen!  I shall have all the shit to myself, all the while being protected from thieves!

Lol... Inb4getsoutofpenrich.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Grizzan on August 22, 2012, 11:23:32 am
its too many topics about "nerf brahmin shit production" y u whine nobody normal would shovel it
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Ville on August 23, 2012, 01:27:22 am
I don't get the point of this really. Why is it such a big deal if people shovel shit for caps?

Its all they do is nerf shit in this game :D

I don't get it Jovanka increases the brahmin shitting rate and then she gets annoyed people throw it around and make mass caps. And then she blocks the pens lol.

Oh well shit happends :D
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: JovankaB on August 23, 2012, 05:44:10 am
I don't get it Jovanka increases the brahmin shitting rate and then she gets annoyed people throw it around and make mass caps. And then she blocks the pens lol.

Your imagination: ARRRR VILLE CAN PICK UP SHIT, MUST BLOCK PENS

Reality:
Nobody is annoyed. Brahmin from the pens are not supposed to wander around towns
and poop all over the place, that's all. If it means blocking pens for a while, too bad.
The fact that they can get out is a bug which will be fixed on next update.

But the most important reason is that blocking the pens saves me manual labor that
I would have to do after update, with looking for brahmin and putting them back in
pens in towns with hotels. I can't simply regenerate these maps, because hotel rooms
would be wiped.

I'm sorry if you think that you and your particular matters are very important and devs
spend time thinking about it and fighting with you, but that's just not the case.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Ville on August 23, 2012, 08:25:50 am
I say just let them walk around and poop everywhere just for a good laugh until its fixed.

Hell I just argue for the sake of an arguement. It is a forum after all.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Trokanis on August 23, 2012, 02:17:19 pm
Personally while the pens are 'down' I think it's a great time to work the system out a little more.  Maybe lower the psycho Brahmin charge a bit, I don't care if they Crap the same amount as last season or the same amount as recently before last update or anywhere in the middle.  I just don't like added tedium to an already tedious few minutes in game.

Personally I wish Ville that you would keep your trap shut a bit more, or at least be more adult, cause my last thread got locked pretty much solely through your flaming.  So what could have been a reasonable chat with Jovanka turned into a childish yelling match with the hang up at the end, while nothing really got worked out.  That's NOT what forums are for contrary to popular belief.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: JovankaB on August 23, 2012, 03:09:02 pm
Pens won't be a place where you can find a full pen and do 100 easy clicks and log off anymore.
If you want to farm caps fast, it will always annoy you, because it's not supposed to be a place
to get rich fast. It's for newbies to get some initial caps and xp without any requirement, nothing
more. And it doesn't mean that is has to be purely farming feature - do 100 clicks and get reward.
Such thing is very bad in my opinion and should be reduced if possible.

Nevertheless, I want to change the way brahmin react to make poop shoveling more tactical.
There will be some rules of brahmin behavior instead of just 50% chance to try ram into shoveler
if distance < 5 hex. I want random/agility aspect to be reduced. But it's not supposed to make
shoveling easier (faster). Might be even harder if you won't be careful.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Tomowolf on August 23, 2012, 03:35:27 pm
Pens won't be a place where you can find a full pen and do 100 easy clicks and log off anymore.
If you want to farm caps fast, it will always annoy you, because it's not supposed to be a place
to get rich fast. It's for newbies to get some initial caps and xp without any requirement, nothing
more. And it doesn't mean that is has to be purely farming feature, do 100 clicks and get reward.

Nevertheless, I want to change the way brahmin react to make poop shoveling more tactical.
There will be some rules of brahmin behavior instead of just 50% chance to try ram into shoveler
if distance < 5 hex. I want random/agility aspect to be reduced. But it's not supposed to make
shoveling easier (faster). Might be even harder if you won't be careful.

Really, farming caps.... Did you know that in-game we got more features, not just poo cleaning?
I'm just sad that you cannot admit that you've added half-done not balanced feature and claiming its "fine as it is", that's just sad...
People will quit shovelling and use other features, because you make it only annoying.
Not just newbies saying that but older-testers here, not just me... For first three times when cow is ramming you its funny, but then after 10 times... they're doing it too fast, and its annoying like hell, makes me craft 100 ropes instead of shovelling shit, its far easier and Im not endangered by some mad cows.
From this, Im not trolling, but I'm disgusted like you're replying to the feedback answers, change something please.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: manero on August 23, 2012, 03:38:46 pm
The pens are bugged after last update (brahmin can escape them) so I locked the ones in major towns until it's fixed.

That doesn't even need a comment ;d
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: racoon on August 23, 2012, 03:45:46 pm
I want to change the way brahmin react to make poop shoveling more tactical.
Shit shoveling more tactical than PVP. gratz.

why improving the feature for 3% of players is more important than repairing things which 90% players is asking for?
anyway, you can always shovel shit in your base
im very curious why brahmin shit is so important for Jovanka.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: JovankaB on August 23, 2012, 03:48:34 pm
Really, farming caps.... Did you know that in-game we got more features, not just poo cleaning?

Then do the other things. Brahmin pens are supposed to be mainly the last resort for people without items, alts, friends, know-how. If you have any of these, by all means - do the other things.

I'm just sad that you cannot admit that you've added half-done not balanced feature and claiming its "fine as it is", that's just sad...

I wrote that it's WIP and that brahmin reaction will be changed. Like three times already. Just don't expect that it will get any easier, because it won't.

People will quit shovelling and use other features, because you make it only annoying.

Let's not speculate about the future especially that I have seen people in pens everytime I logged in since the change was introduced. And most complaints I read is from long time players (3 people actually) who bragged that they farmed ~5000 caps from pens (after I made the brahmin walk around in pens) or who want to pick up shit with sneaker to throw it in enemy towns.


Not just newbies saying that but older-testers here, not just me... For first three times when cow is ramming you its funn,y but then they'redoing it too fast, and its annoying like hell, makes me craft 100 ropes instead of shovelling shit, its far easier and Im not endangered by some mad cows.

OK, then do it. By all means, craft the ropes.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Roachor on August 23, 2012, 04:32:04 pm
What jov is saying is that soon poop shoveling will be the only feature after they finish nerfing what little other game mechanics are left into oblivion. (btw jov z0mbies could reallllly use a ghoul skin ;)  :-*)
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: M CZARNUCH on August 23, 2012, 05:53:44 pm
I read thread I agree jovankaB he knows best! Shoveling the cow poop is too easy to get caps and block pens was nessery to prevent town pooping. Keep up good work jovankaB I donate because of his hard work for good game! I play game for years and cow pins needed change! Cow knockdown well make this feature fun and I fooly support idea!
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: manero on August 23, 2012, 05:55:54 pm
Sorry Jovi but you are "shitty developer"  ;D
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on August 23, 2012, 06:00:17 pm
Sorry Jovi but you are "shitty developer"  ;D
Oh snap

also, since when brahmin shoveling became important?
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Alexandrite on August 23, 2012, 06:09:23 pm
Ever since this session began.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: T-888 on August 23, 2012, 06:16:05 pm
also, since when brahmin shoveling became important?

Don't care about shoveling some cows, whatever. That effort she put into making cows more annoying could have been diverted to do something useful, not just have fun, but actually fill the missing gaps of features required, fixes etc. etc.

I had a good laugh about this, but this isn't funny anymore, just sad.

Bad jovanka, bad.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Crovax on August 23, 2012, 06:19:03 pm
The new xp formula is ok, make the cows back to normal and its a decent feature. seriously its a huge waist of time and its not even remotely useful to have them knock u down ill never understand it really there is too many other things that need fixing.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Mike Crosser on August 24, 2012, 12:35:00 am
I never knew shit shovelling was such serious business.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: craig_christ11 on August 24, 2012, 06:41:31 am
I think a much more useful feature starring Brahmin shit would be the ability to make it edible.
For "SHITS" and giggles I walked around Gecko and collected all the Brahmin shit I could. That being 52 of them from the 3(?) Pens and around the town.

It was fun.

Now I need something to do with them.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: TKs-KaBoom on August 24, 2012, 07:59:23 am
im very curious why brahmin shit is so important for Jovanka.

Perhaps a latent shit fetish is being nurtured?  I think we all can remember the fondness we all experienced with 2 Girls 1 Cup.  I think this may have been the inspiration for Jovankas incessant interest in Brahmin poopery, but alas, I can only speculate....
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: T-888 on August 24, 2012, 03:24:26 pm
Some of the members of my faction with weaker PC's have noticed a FPS drop in cities while TC'ing, especially on high perception characters, well simply a significant, unusual FPS drop to what it was before, including me. So i figured out what's the problem.

(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/2663/fuckingcows.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/fuckingcows.png/)

This is so stupid, i mean retard like stupid. Now i have performance problems, because of tons of shit. Ridiculous.

Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: T-888 on August 24, 2012, 03:55:20 pm
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,15859.msg131311.html#msg131311

Anyone with 1 GB or less ram will experience performance problems at some degree of level because of a lot of stacked items in one place, even players with higher ram can have performance issues if the item amount is high enough. Your PC has to render them constantly and that is information that has to processed, that is how i understand it (correct me if i'm wrong). Just like in events where the amount of items just exceeds any limits of reason then no matter what PC, you just gonna some performance issues, might have to do something with this old engine too.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: JovankaB on August 24, 2012, 03:56:43 pm
This is so stupid, i mean retard like stupid. Now i have performance problems, because of tons of shit. Ridiculous.

Problem solved. Next time try report such thing to relevant dev or a GM instead of bitching on forum.

Also FYI, poops don't appear when there is some on the hex already, so it's only one item / hex.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: T-888 on August 24, 2012, 04:02:46 pm
GM's aren't available almost at all, so i come "bitch" on the forum.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: naossano on August 24, 2012, 04:03:12 pm
What a surprise someone wants to use these horrible pens.

The pens are bugged after last update (brahmin can escape them) so I locked the ones in major towns until it's fixed.

Weren't the players supposed to use shovel on them to make them come back in the brahmin pen ?
I may have misunderstood, but i though the feature was great...
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: JovankaB on August 24, 2012, 04:04:40 pm
Quote
GM's aren't available almost at all, so i come "bitch" on the forum.

You got PM or IRC broken?


Quote
Weren't the players supposed to use shovel on them to make them come back in the brahmin pen ?
I may have misunderstood, but i though the feature was great...

It wasn't implemented.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: T-888 on August 24, 2012, 04:07:53 pm
You got PM or IRC broken?

Irc is for only the eternal afk nexxos, and i'm just trying out if the PM has any effect on you since your not in irc.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: Tomowolf on August 24, 2012, 04:22:11 pm
Its like now "Hurr Im [DEV] I don't give a shit about stuff in game lolo."
Brahmins are worth only killing for thier hides, or catching to carry materials, nothing more (dogs are better ftw).
Shit will become new art item, instead of xander root or broc flower.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: racoon on August 24, 2012, 07:13:10 pm
3gb ddr3 1033mhz, got fps dropped too. also i think video cards overworks while so many shit is in 1 place.
Title: Re: Brahmin pens bug-locked
Post by: naossano on August 24, 2012, 10:52:25 pm
Its like now "Hurr Im [DEV] I don't give a shit about stuff in game lolo."
Brahmins are worth only killing for thier hides, or catching to carry materials, nothing more (dogs are better ftw).
Shit will become new art item, instead of xander root or broc flower.

Nobody prevent you from using it only for that. That's the wonderful thing about different content for different players.