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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Closed suggestions => Topic started by: The Lost Children on August 17, 2012, 02:59:56 am
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There have been a few times where I've received warnings for things, and despite there being a description in the message, it does seem rather vague, and automated... I'm not entirely sure what I did this time... but this thread isn't really about me, but rather the system in general.
When a warning is issued, would it be unreasonable to link us to the offending post?
And if that post has been removed by a moderator, just send us a quote of the offending post.
I'm trying to be as courteous as possible in this next playthrough of Fallout, but to be extremely honest, it's very hard with this community.
From the hypocritical warnings towards someone who does his best to incorporated everyone in everything, to warnings about being rude to RUDE people.
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TL DR:
Tell us what we posted when you warn us!
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I don't get this, is this for the forum or the game? I've never been warned nor ban before so I wonder how that feels :/
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I don't get this, is this for the forum or the game? I've never been warned nor ban before so I wonder how that feels :/
Well I just got a warning, saying that I was flaming, as well as taunting people... I looked through my posts, but the only thing I can think of is I got the warning, for reporting all irrelevant posts on my threads.
To be honest, I just want my threads to stay on topic. When people respond to a "Lost Children recruiting" thread.. and say "Lost Children SUCK!"
This is against the rules, and I report it... I'm not sure how this is breaking the rules.
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mods r asleep tiem to post some truth
they won't tell u why ur b&/warned bcoz they've no idea themselves really
they delete every post they don't liek
it works liek this: they see a post right? now they either liek it (bcoz it goes liek omg mods are so awesome it's so cool dat exp. for shoveling shit is nerfed heil devs) or they dotn liek it (bcoz it goes liek 'hi, I don't think ur right about soemthing, mod' or bcoz they dont liek u and believe me odds on they don't liek u coz there's so many of them liek 15 mods every 5 forumites have liek their own mod and many are from germany/russia so u figure it out, they get buttmad easily and dont get a joke/have no concept of banter and so on so ur very liekly to upset them with the stupidest thing and they delete ur post and issue a warning but the next second they forget the thing so they cant liek tell you why they deleted teh post exactly (and also it prolly didnt braek any forum ruels too) but teh butthurt remains and from nao on ur beign watch'd and u'll haev ur messages deleted foar no reason sorry and expect this thread to earn u a ban (reason: inciting to flamewar or wahtever shittier excuse they'll come up with oh wait no they wont even do that they'll just delete teh thread rofl and send u that bullshit message that maens nothing lulz poor lost children thinking they can talk soem sense into our braindead modz haha)
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...sorry and expect this thread to earn u a ban (reason: inciting to flamewar or wahtever shittier excuse they'll come up with oh wait no they wont even do that they'll just delete teh thread rofl and send u that bullshit message that maens nothing lulz poor lost children thinking they can talk soem sense into our braindead modz haha)
Well to be honest, I think the mods are just as human as I am, and as easy as it was for me to make a mistake and piss off the ENTIRE community as a whole, it's easy to make a judgement call about a mod we've never met or known personally.
So while I hope I don't get banned for speaking my mind, and trying to come up with solutions and activities, if I do, then the mods have made a grave mistake with how they uphold their population.
Remember, MODS ARE ONLY MODS, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE US! Otherwise, they moderate NOTHING.
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We have to churn out like, ~20 warnings like this each day. The automated messages could be a bit more descriptive I agree, but it is impossible to write indepth detailed ones each time we have to warn or discourage someone. @ the OP, we read every topic on these forums and try to act accordingly, mistakes happen. But backseat moderating is not allowed, we have to edit it more clearly to the rules though.
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oh my god 20 a day that's liek almost 2 per mod oh my god I had no conception of how overworked u gaise r lulz want a tissue to wipe teh sweat off ur forehead?
and wtf is backseat moderating supposed to mean here? discussing the decisions mods make? lulz moderator infallibility ftw stfu&obey that's rite u tell those ants where they can stick their dreams of even basic freedom of speech, u tell them
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We have to churn out like, ~20 warnings like this each day. The automated messages could be a bit more descriptive I agree, but it is impossible to write indepth detailed ones each time we have to warn or discourage someone. @ the OP, we read every topic on these forums and try to act accordingly, mistakes happen. But backseat moderating is not allowed, we have to edit it more clearly to the rules though.
Well if you guys want to dissuade me from REPORTING... please remove the REPORT TO MODERATOR button.
Once I noticed this button, I ALWAYS am sure to report ANYTHING breaking rules... Despite my feeling very wronged for being banned for defending myself against slander, now I'm being warned for OVER REPORTING..
However, to redeem myself from sounding like a whiny toddler, I have noticed and appreciated the redemption of one or two of my threads in which I reported peoples slander and irrelevant defamatory hate speech. And for this, I am EXTREMELY grateful, if people are not interested in what I have to say, that is completely fine, but please, do not try to enter other people's opinions with your slander.
Anyway, I do not mean to 'police' the forums, as the warning stated, but at the same time, I DO NOT feel that using a "report to moderator" button, should be reprimanded.
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I ALWAYS am sure to report ANYTHING breaking rules
how about u report ur own shitposts that contribute absoluet nothing and only aim@increasing ur post count?
jesus christ this community is crap as soon as another english fonline server surfaces this oen is fucking dead mark my words and it'll happen sooner than l8r too...
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how about u report ur own shitposts that contribute absoluet nothing and only aim@increasing ur post count?
If you really think it's to increase my post count, you miss the point... And that's fine, because some people. NOT A LOT, but some people get it, and that's all that matters.
Also I think you missed my achknowledgement to bad posting etiquette in the past. Please read entirely if you want to post a valid opinion.
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I didn't mean this thread but a shitton of ur other posts
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I didn't mean this thread but a shitton of ur other posts
Which are dated about 6 months ago, this is kind of what I'm talking about. I stopped playing 6 months ago, I come back, try to change my forum posting habits, but there is no redemption for someone already shunned, I'm not crying fowl over this, however, being warned because people are flaming ME and instigating, seems extremely fucked.
But back on point, I would of liked to know what the mods thought I did wrong, it would surely help in my rehabilitation.
I just want to help create a social peaceful environment for those who wish to be part of such a thing, and I do notice that there ARE people who long for this sort of thing, but the majority flames us out of the forums... I remain out of sheer... I'm not really sure, maybe stupidity.
Anyway this thread leaves a sour taste in my mouth, for it's surely going to be called another one of "Lost Children's shitty useless posts that does nothing for the community"
Sorry guys.
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Every time i have received a warning i mostly know exactly why and where i exaggerated, and if not precisely then at least a good hunch. Sometimes it might be confusing, but don't fool yourself, you know better if you pay attention to what you are writing and how. No need to be offensive, i forget that once in a while, manage your patience, forget the stupidity around you, focus on what's important ... whatever it may be for you to read this forum and participate in it.
Simple change of attitude comes a long way.
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Simple change of attitude comes a long way.
Your way of posting improved a lot lately, so this is a nice quote. No sarcasm, just the way I see it, more posters could take an example out of it.
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it's surely going to be called another one of "Lost Children's shitty useless posts that does nothing for the community"
actually no this particular thread addresses a very important issue
mods ban people both here and on teh official irc channels at will, gms jail whoever they want and abuse shit, nobody gives a fuck as long as theyr'e not bothered (and when they are well u figure it out no1 gives but them) - that's coz none of these fucks r accountable for what they're doing bcoz the devs in charge don't giev a fuck and they're teh only ones that could stop this shit so mayeb this thread will make them change their mind and actually start giving a fuck but im not holding my breath lulz its good the thread is here though (lets enjoy it whiel it lasts)
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actually no this particular thread addresses a very important issue
mods ban people both here and on teh official irc channels at will, gms jail whoever they want and abuse shit, nobody gives a fuck as long as theyr'e not bothered (and when they are well u figure it out no1 gives but them) - that's coz none of these fucks r accountable for what they're doing bcoz the devs in charge don't giev a fuck and they're teh only ones that could stop this shit so mayeb this thread will make them change their mind and actually start giving a fuck but im not holding my breath lulz its good the thread is here though (lets enjoy it whiel it lasts)
But posts like the one I'm quoting here, don't seem to address anything, rather than just antagonize the mods... who like I said... are JUST as human as us, and JUST as prone to mistakes and bias.
My 'beef' isn't with the mods truly.
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it seems rather arbitrary really, you can say just about the same as somebody else and get the ban hammer. Just seems like game of censorship and a popularity favorite poster list. It's all about thought suppression.
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It is all about internet etiquette and reading comprehension. If we notice someone that slips on a single insult that is harmless, there might be a warning and thats it. You, Ka-Boom complaining about "omg lack of free speech" while this is a private forum and not a goverment controlled one where not all these rules apply and breaking etiquette rules left and right complaining about it is kinda funny. It is always the usual suspects.
People who know a bit etiquette in real life never get into trouble on internet fora, I wonder why?
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People who know a bit etiquette in real life never get into trouble on internet fora, I wonder why?
Completely false, not to frivolously argue, but this is definitely not the case, anonymity breeds arrogance and stupidity.
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TheLostChildren, you are so **** ignorant, wake up your brain. Dont post anymore, you are annoying me very hard
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Keep posting the Lost Children. ;D
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Oh well, how about just chilling and not giving a fuck about what others say on the internet. I usally don't even see posts that could insult me in any way because insulting is such an easy thing to do with anonymity. It's just some guy I don't even know - why the hell should I care?
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It is all about internet etiquette and reading comprehension. If we notice someone that slips on a single insult that is harmless, there might be a warning and thats it. You, Ka-Boom complaining about "omg lack of free speech" while this is a private forum and not a goverment controlled one where not all these rules apply and breaking etiquette rules left and right complaining about it is kinda funny. It is always the usual suspects.
People who know a bit etiquette in real life never get into trouble on internet fora, I wonder why?
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,25257.msg212283.html#msg212283 (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,25257.msg212283.html#msg212283)
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,25263.msg212422.html#msg212422 (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,25263.msg212422.html#msg212422)
Yeah I said something about his build would be uber awesome GOD rt pvp ape with Pearks:
3: Bonus Move
6: Fast Reload
Something to that effect, I don't exactly remember because my post was deleted and I got banned. If you'll notice
the other posts "your build sux", I'm wondering why they didn't get the same treatment? Ah, I see it's all about
etiquette, *cough* *cough*. Sorry I was just choking on your bullshit Surf. So I'm not on your "favorite posters" list, I can think of worse....
:P
It is always the usual suspects.
Beware the messenger and not the message
Nah, your obviously not prejudiced in any way.....
I'm certain I would receive the same treatment if I had some other name.... like "Juicy Fruit"
or "RadCliff"
or "maserbaiter"
or "Johny Wad Sock the Third", I think that ones too long....
but no, I stick with my tried and true name that makes the girls cry :)
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It is all about internet etiquette and reading comprehension. If we notice someone that slips on a single insult that is harmless, there might be a warning and thats it. You, Ka-Boom complaining about "omg lack of free speech" while this is a private forum and not a goverment controlled one where not all these rules apply and breaking etiquette rules left and right complaining about it is kinda funny. It is always the usual suspects.
People who know a bit etiquette in real life never get into trouble on internet fora, I wonder why?
It is an international community some people are very defensive about their rights that their country granted and fought for. But besides the point being an admin is a responsibility sometimes we feel that bans and approval warnings are biased. I made a joke to lemark that 2238 is serious business and its a full time job when he said something about he wants to play the game and not work. I get warned and need approval for making a joke to a GM favored faction who gets their own custom faction name and have many friends on the developemt team? And the reason for this forum cockblocking was inapproiate activity for making a joke to lemark?
People are going to troll and write the stupid angry things they do because this is a frustrating game and it doesn't help when there is people with GM powers and admin powers on the forum who are free to call people cry babies whiners retards 5 year olds etc... And then ban them for saying one little insult. It also makes no sense that some people get banned for writing one insult while some other people have free reign to snipe and provoke a flame war all day long.
The GM needs to set the example and internet ediquette should also apply to people with administration powers. That is the real battle here, the administrators should also abide by their own rules and not be hypocrites. That is why I have done what I do and do what I do.
Is it fair to ask for GMs not to be biased. Is it fair to ask not favor other players over others. Is it fair to ask not take side in any forum conflict and just delete the crap posts and lock the topic without resorting to an imediate ban just because you do not like the person?
Hardly anything in this game is your propertly the rights belong to bethseda and zenimax corporation you are lucky that they even allow you to reverse engineer, and accept donations for a game they hold the rights to.
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yeah teh double standards around here are fucking appalling not to mention teh overwhelming hypocrisy
surf's a gr8 example, saying 1 thing but doing another insulting people on irc regularly bcoz he knows he can get away with it (and if u dare respond ur b& of course) and here he dares to talk about some etiquette lulz what a fucking loser and gms haha that's all true too, ur one of their buddies - they'll spawn u all u want+ban every1 u ask them to (as soon as they get teh slightest hint of a chance), and unban u no matter what but if ur not one of them expect gms to never be online to help u+randomly piss u off coz they're bored that's teh reality of this community and I'm so looking forward to another playable fonline server so I can finally ditch this shithole
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Consider it as Second Class Medal of Trololol (First Class is ban, of course) and wear it with proud.
And yeah, I always exactly know why I get one.
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This thread is so hilarious, all "girls" who were banned are now crying how unjustfully banned they were and how the system sucks.
Would like to know, whose crying face is hiding behind Mariposa_Girl forum alt.
Not to mention, Gr1m telling us about forum etiquette is just plain gold.
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I now have to wait for mod approval for all my posts because I called stalker an idiot.
But other than that i don't know where most of my warnings came from.
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Don't insult anyone as idiot, asshole, fag or other such descriptions, don't snipe, don't troll, don't flame... then you won't get a warning. It could be so easy, but people must start their insulting internet warfare and then they wonder about getting warned and banned. I personally lost all my tolerance for any of that and as soon as I personally see someone writing like a douchebag, he gets a warning. If the person doesn't stop, I will just give out another warning. It's as simple as that, really. Behave like a grown up and all is fine, at least from my side.
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Dear Lost Children, you'd better listen to what T-888 and Lexx has said, and think. Take a look at the older member's posts (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?action=mlist;sort=registered;start=0), and try to compare them with yours. Maybe then you'll realize why did you received all of your warnings, and won't ask for a detailed description of a warning next time (though I hope, that there won't be next time, if you'll be following their advices).
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I've been banned on irc for 2 years now because they don't have the power to unban me apparently.
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I got banned on irc by Nexxos one year ago for posting tits ;D
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I just got this warning for placing the minimum bid on an action....
Holy fuck this forum is shit.
"The Lost Children,
You have received a warning for inappropriate activity. Posting false bids in auctions is not allowed. Please cease these activities and abide by the forum rules otherwise we will take further action.
Regards,
The FOnline 2238 Forum Team."
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then next time read how much the minimum bid is and pay attention to what min raise is.
i seen this post. the above bid was 12k (which was min start bid)
you posted after that 3k (not even close to the min bid and not over what the last person offerd)
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then next time read how much the minimum bid is and pay attention to what min raise is.
i seen this post. the above bid was 12k (which was min start bid)
you posted after that 3k (not even close to the min bid and not over what the last person offerd)
Minimum was 2k when I posted I believe. And if it wasn't edited, it's the POSTERS fault for typing 12000 like this: Minimum bid:1 2000
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If you are referring to the 5000mfc or the superstims it was posted as 12 000 which is pretty obvious as to what it is.
As to this suggestion, I don't really see a reason as it should be pretty obvious as to why you were banned
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it should be pretty obvious as to why you were banned
yeah lol but guess what - most of the time it isn't
would it hurt u to raed teh thread b4 posting?
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I agree with everything mentioned by The Lost Children.
And admittedly, by gr1m and TKs as well.
That is.... that is all. :'(
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[move
]It Seems I Win?[/move]
Courtesy: Octopus Overlords
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In case anyone didn't get it - The Lost Children was trolling while saying, that he has received a warning because of a false bid.
P.S. This suggestion is now closed and moved.