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Title: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 14, 2012, 01:14:49 am
Even during the last session, I've been thinking of a world war reenactment. As the Fallout series is supposed to be a future-nostalgic game anyway, why not? I am not sure of the time, or the location, or how exactly it would work out. The main problems will be finding a good location, keeping people from bringing in disallowed gear/killing everyone, and finding a time good enough to get more than a handful of people. Basically, this will be a PVP event with only WWII equipment. Equipment is stated in the 14th post.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 16, 2012, 11:51:02 pm
Alright, as for the place, I think it will be either V15 or a random encounter. So far, I have only 2 people on board, so please reply here if you support this idea!
Also, I will not be giving away free gear. What you take with you will risk losing, and bring at your own expense!
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Roachor on August 16, 2012, 11:52:27 pm
emp grenades?  ???
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Redivivus on August 17, 2012, 12:11:54 am
M60 - 1957
Assault Rifle (aka AK-47) - 1949
wakizashi - 15th century
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: The Lost Children on August 17, 2012, 02:20:05 am
M60 - 1957
Assault Rifle (aka AK-47) - 1949
wakizashi - 15th century

Eh, the term assault rifle is very broad and can be used to describe world war 2 weaponry I think. I think the STG was an assault rifle?

Actually the BAR stands for BROWNING ASSAULT RIFLE.

But the M60 is definitely Vietnam era.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Spotty on August 17, 2012, 03:25:07 am
One could just pretend the M60 is a Browning 1919A1 for the duration of this event.

You cant run with it so it most likely would be used defensive anyways. No point walking into a hail of huntingrifles shooting at you.

The best choice for BG is RL since leatherarmors gonna be the rule.

Maybe throw out the AR, and just let the M60 be the only longrange burst weapon, otherwise noone is gonna bring 1.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: chocolate_chip_cookies on August 17, 2012, 03:32:29 am
The assault rifle is actually AK-112 ;)
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on August 17, 2012, 04:06:31 am
What if there was D-Day Event, that will be awesome.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: The Lost Children on August 17, 2012, 04:22:06 am
The assault rifle is actually AK-112 ;)

Oh okay, lol my bad, never read the description. XD
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 17, 2012, 05:07:19 am
One could just pretend the M60 is a Browning 1919A1 for the duration of this event.

You cant run with it so it most likely would be used defensive anyways. No point walking into a hail of huntingrifles shooting at you.

The best choice for BG is RL since leatherarmors gonna be the rule.

Maybe throw out the AR, and just let the M60 be the only longrange burst weapon, otherwise noone is gonna bring 1.
Those are the lines I was thinking of. M60 can be a browning or something, assault rifle could be stg or mp40(different mag but hey), rocket launcher could be bazooka or panserfaust, [scoped] hunting rifle is a [scoped] kar98, sniper rifle too modern, lsw as well, calling 10mm pistol a .45 colt would be taking it too far. Thompsons had 20, 30, 50, or 100 size clips based on the cartridge, so 75 isnt too much :) If I was doing it exactly, we would all be fighting with too limited a choice of weapons. And what I meant about wakizashi is noone used it, except the japanese. Plus, srlsly you people can limit yourselves in melee. Nazis did NOT run around with shivs and hammers at the allies, and the allies didn't throw plant spikes at the nazis. I'm ruling out only the ones that can't be in there(i will make wakizashi usable), so anything available in those times can be used, however silly it may be. I know I'm stretching this really far, but if it goes half right, this will be a very enjoyable event that many will realize they have wanted to see. Or something like this.
@TheLostChildren BAR is actually the Browning Automatic Rifle :) Browning m1919 is a heavy machinegun and a different weapon.
@S.T.A.L.K.E.R that would be similar to this, but also a good idea.
@Redvivus As stated above, too little choice if it was complete without some pretending. The wakizashi was my mistake, however, as japanese officers did use swords.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Redivivus on August 17, 2012, 09:46:54 am
Before I get a complaint about this, hitler DID work on plans for a gatling gun.
Also, WIP seperating weapons into groups by country. Also deciding if it will be countries, or just nazis vs allies. So just 2 groups, or more. Any suggestions on this or hardships it could cause will be appreciated.

As far as Gatling gun was introduced as it is in 1870s - i think it can surely be added as a gun for supersoldier.
If you're really want to add assault rifle and M60 in this - make them limited. It would be strange to see squads of german officers running here and there or regiment of machine-gunners holding some position.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Spotty on August 17, 2012, 09:58:00 am
As far as Gatling gun was introduced as it is in 1870s - i think it can surely be added as a gun for supersoldier.

Those gatlling guns required a 6 man crew to operate, and a horse to carry it around.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Xisingr Will on August 17, 2012, 10:16:17 am
Would Hitler be able to win?
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: chocolate_chip_cookies on August 17, 2012, 03:27:45 pm
You should just use the grease gun as it's historically accurate
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 17, 2012, 04:19:50 pm
Alright, I will keep updating this post to make it accurate: There will be TWO teams, but FOUR countries to choose from.
America: Leather Armor Mark II, Combat Helmet. Weapon limits: Tommygun, M3A1, Hunting Rifle, M60, Rocket Launcher, Scoped Hunting Rifle, Flamer, pipe rifle, Shotgun, .44 Revolver(with/out speedloader) All melee/throwing weapons except plasma/emp grenades, supersledge, wakizashi, and hth/melee that use sec.
England: Leather Jackets, Combat Helmets. Weapon Limits: Minigun, rocket launcher, sawn off shotgun, .44 revolver(speedloader), pipe rifle, Hunting rifle(scope), Assault Rifle, all allowed melee/throwing except plasma, emp, supersledge, wakizashi, and all hth/melee using sec.
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Japan: Leather Armors, Combat Helmets. Weapon Restrictions: Assault Rifle, (scoped)Huning Rifle, M60, pipe rifle, light support weapon. All melee and throwing allowed except plasma/emp grenades, supersledge, and all hth/melee using sec.
Germany: Combat Leather Jackets, Combat Helmets. Weapon Restrictions: Mauser, assault rifle(exp mag), M60, flamer, rocket launcher, Hunting Rifle(scoped). All melee/throwing allowed except plasma/emp grenades, supersledge, wakizashi, and all hth/melee using sec.
LOCATION will be most likely Vault 15.
All teams may take healing powders, buffout, cigarettes, lighters, first aid kits, or doctor's bags. If you take some jet or psycho on world map, SHAME ON YOU
Supersoldier is cancelled.
Just a reminder, I will not be providing gear for everyone.
Please post any comments, uncertainties, or mistakes to correct.
Some weapons were changed from similar ones actually used so that there is more choice.
The poll is only to see how many people this event will have.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: chocolate_chip_cookies on August 17, 2012, 05:09:27 pm
Vault 15 is too open, the location should be something like themepark or waterworks
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 17, 2012, 07:00:05 pm
Vault 15 is too open, the location should be something like themepark or waterworks
Themepark doesn't have enough open space for war, and waterworks either...plus it's not fitting. I'm thinking of something empty, but with a bit of cover. Like those encounters with a couple of rock piles
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Redivivus on August 17, 2012, 10:03:28 pm
Tobacco farm should fit your requirements.

P.S. Saying 'Boo' for not adding Soviet Union in conflict. :/
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 18, 2012, 04:39:18 am
Tobacco farm should fit your requirements.

P.S. Saying 'Boo' for not adding Soviet Union in conflict. :/
Then I would have to give the nazis another team, too. Plus, russians don't have any fallout weapons...molotov cocktails, [scoped] hunting rifle being mosin-nagant, and m60 for their machineguns. Not enough weapons...ppsh couldn't be lsw, nor an assault rifle, nor anything else...all weapons are like that. Their pistol is not a deagle, 10mm, or mauser...etc. You get my point, Fear. Of course, I don't know ALL their weapons...my main sources are a couple of books, which all have similar information.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Pvt.Hudson on August 18, 2012, 07:54:12 am
Event like this, is a great idea! Maybe someday it will be organized.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Grimmi on August 18, 2012, 12:23:01 pm
WWII so where is a polish soldiers , and polish weapons
Polanns Weapons the best "STEN" "mauser" etc ;D
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Tomowolf on August 18, 2012, 01:19:52 pm
WWII so where is a polish soldiers , and polish weapons
Polanns Weapons the best "STEN" "mauser" etc ;D
I'm sad that Pole is posting without knowledge about his country... just sad (Poles got Stens from Allies drops, and other weapons they captured from Germans....)

Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 18, 2012, 05:05:53 pm
>.> wow....sten is from england, mauser is german...and, as I told redvivius very kindly, if I added Poland, I would have to give the nazis a third team, too. First was usa, as they have a wide selection of weapons, and for second I was debating either england or russia...russia didn't have enough weapons.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Barons on August 18, 2012, 07:33:15 pm
When is this event?  :P
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 18, 2012, 08:59:44 pm
Everything is being planned, location and time not certain yet
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: 7MeN on August 19, 2012, 12:47:19 pm
Then I would have to give the nazis another weapon, too. Plus, russians don't have any fallout weapons...molotov cocktails, [scoped] hunting rifle being mosin-nagant, and m60 for their machineguns. Not enough weapons...ppsh couldn't be lsw, nor an assault rifle, nor anything else...all weapons are like that. Their pistol is not a deagle, 10mm, or mauser...etc. You get my point, Fear. Of course, I don't know ALL their weapons...my main sources are a couple of books, which all have similar information.

For the lack of better sources at hand, here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TT_pistol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TT_pistol) - dunno, maybe emulate with 10mm? Sure, far-fetched, but better than nothing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVT-40 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVT-40) - may be emulated by hunting rifle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPS_submachine_gun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPS_submachine_gun) - maybe emulate with grease gun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPSh-41 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPSh-41) - emulate with Tommy gun

Nagant revolver may be replaced with the only revolver present in game, that is .44.

There are other weapons, of course, and these are all small guns, but still...
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Nacrox on August 20, 2012, 06:24:11 pm
Where is my IS-2/Pershing tank, I want it.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 20, 2012, 06:51:10 pm
For the lack of better sources at hand, here you go
i am tired of repeating myself. please read the other posts. m60 and lsw emulate the countries' hmgs cuz theres no other choice. hunting rifle is already a lee-enfield, a kar98k, an arisaka, and a springfield, as they are generally similar. m3a1 cant be anything as IT ALREADY IS A WW2 WEAPON. please read up on facts before you post. i did say the 10mm would be going too far
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Eternauta on August 20, 2012, 07:57:50 pm
I have been told there is some Fallout Tactics mod with WWII equipment. Go play that online instead of trying to make something impossible here :D Just my humble opinion, of course - It's ok if you want to organize an event but I think this particular one is hard to organize and doesn't fit in the Fallout world, at all.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 21, 2012, 05:18:26 am
I have been told there is some Fallout Tactics mod with WWII equipment. Go play that online instead of trying to make something impossible here :D Just my humble opinion, of course - It's ok if you want to organize an event but I think this particular one is hard to organize and doesn't fit in the Fallout world, at all.
why not? :D This game seems often to be nostalgic, actually up to around ww2 times or early post/preww2 times. Anyway, this topic is open to suggestions as to how to improve it or make it easier(it is already possible, eter ;)), but stupid suggestions will not be tolerated lightly. I also know it is a long stretch, as many things have to be made up for, i have to hope players wont jet themselves and bring in gatling lasers in camk2, and fit balanced teams and equipment. So, since this is an event for any willing to follow the rules, and to contribute in planning. So far, as I already said in basically every post, all of the equipment is ww2 guns or ones that closely resemble it without any major differences. Or the m60s, which are there because there has to be some replacement to the heavy machineguns and the emplacements. I hope this will be a success, but even if it fails, I will not be as sad as if it does turn out, but gets ruined. I should have "security", guys in heavy armor and guns who i can trust not to f*ck up waiting at spawn points to make sure noone comes with prohibited gear. Or to kill anyone who turns "aggresive".
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Brujah on August 21, 2012, 05:24:55 am
Try organizing something like "Grease gun burst fight at cathedral! No other weapons allowed!" before something this huge.


Not only a grease-only event in that cathedral full of NPCs would be funnier it would also show how hard organizing stuff like this is.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Bego on August 21, 2012, 02:47:21 pm
Just a tip: Maybe you should put England and USA to use Leather Armors, and Germany and Japan Leather Jackets, or the other way around cuz it will be much much easier to distinguish your allies from your enemies. The way things are set at the moment, there will be a huge number of victims due to death by friendly fire.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 21, 2012, 03:36:08 pm
Just a tip: Maybe you should put England and USA to use Leather Armors, and Germany and Japan Leather Jackets, or the other way around cuz it will be much much easier to distinguish your allies from your enemies. The way things are set at the moment, there will be a huge number of victims due to death by friendly fire.
I think you mean friendly burst? it will be impossible to avoid friendly fire if people are bursting and at the same time melee and hth are running at the enemy. What I fear are if sneakers come...I am making this clear right now, I will kill all sneakers on sight, green tagged or no. Hitler did not use stealth boys, so sneakers NOT ALLOWED.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Bego on August 21, 2012, 04:07:55 pm
No, what I mean is both sides use the same sprites. For example, one guy is USA team, LAMk2, uses leather armor sprite, the other one is Japan team, LA, same leather armor sprite, so in the heat of the battle it will be difficult to tell difference between your allies and enemies. You see what I am aiming at?

Wouldn't it be better to set USA and England to use LAMk2 and LA (both leather armor sprite), and therefore Japan and Germany to use LJ and CLJ (both leather jacket sprite), or the other way around, doesn't matter.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 21, 2012, 09:19:33 pm
No, what I mean is both sides use the same sprites. For example, one guy is USA team, LAMk2, uses leather armor sprite, the other one is Japan team, LA, same leather armor sprite, so in the heat of the battle it will be difficult to tell difference between your allies and enemies. You see what I am aiming at?

Wouldn't it be better to set USA and England to use LAMk2 and LA (both leather armor sprite), and therefore Japan and Germany to use LJ and CLJ (both leather jacket sprite), or the other way around, doesn't matter.
I wanted that, but then it would be uneven, one team getting better armor. Plus, they are going to be divided anyway except for melees. No 1hexing
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Infiltrator on August 23, 2012, 05:41:08 am
 I want to join this event. I'm RELIC, level 9, good at BG's.
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Grizzan on August 25, 2012, 01:47:33 pm
Oh okay, lol my bad, never read the description. XD
lol XD
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: Doc.Rockso on August 27, 2012, 06:58:24 am
Wait wait... so this event is authorized by GM's? If not, then why is everyone wasting there time?
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: BOS Armorer on August 31, 2012, 03:51:01 am
Wait wait... so this event is authorized by GM's? If not, then why is everyone wasting there time?
well, retard, as i said in a couple of my posts, i am hoping for gm support but do not expect it. this is a PLAYER RUN EVENT
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: MalcomGraves on September 03, 2012, 01:00:58 am
So this will be on?
I got a private to promote
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: LagMaster on September 05, 2012, 01:26:07 am
count me in, if i am able to level at least a char
Title: Re: World War II Event
Post by: scarletdevilist on September 07, 2012, 12:15:18 am
Wheee thi sounds fun! I want in :D