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Title: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: belly on March 17, 2010, 12:32:22 am
I just want some explanation.

NCR. Some blue jacketed shit-eater is going to steal from me. I see his actions, I know that he is going to steal, but I'm in a "protected" town, so there are guards, e.t.c. I can't attack him.
So, he steals from me, 4 guards are standing near, nobody cares, THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO TO STOP HIM from stealing, ok.
He gets "thief" status, there is a big red word THIEF over his head, guards do NOTHING, ok.
He is trying to run away, I follow him (do NOT attack), and SUDDENLY everybody is attacking me and I'm dead.

So, I did nothing, I got stealed, killed and looted in a center of NCR and NONE OF THE GUARDS DID ANYTHING.
What the hell are they doing in game?
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Wichura on March 17, 2010, 01:58:29 am
You've might got a "blocking" tag, due to lags or some bug. That's why guards shot you I guess.

And try to chill out a bit, it is just a game. Geez, some people ...
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Kharaam on March 17, 2010, 07:32:06 am
a small tip: if he has a red "(thief)" sign you can shoot at him freely! so maybe you went into crossfire?
but be aware sometimes players pretend to have a thief tag by saying "/s (thief)" this would be also visible in your message box
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: vedaras on March 17, 2010, 12:48:04 pm
the (thief) must be pink not red if you want to shoot him.
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Kharaam on March 17, 2010, 02:32:17 pm
let's say it is a bleached kind of red colour, not exactly pink, not exactly red
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Sell Fone on March 17, 2010, 11:55:15 pm
I hate guards. They shot my mercenary for being in the wrong spot at the wrong time, and they shoot me in the back for running across the map with a gun (I keep forgetting to put it away)  :-\
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Tetris Lock on March 18, 2010, 03:46:22 pm
the (thief) must be pink not red if you want to shoot him.

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5091/itsnotpinkitslightishre.jpg)
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Tyler on March 18, 2010, 11:12:25 pm
The gaurds?They just like to hang out in the front for the entertainment.You know,in case someone gets raped.

If you someone tries that you just need to look in the chat window to see if the ! shows up there.Even if you are close to the entrance it wont make too much difference.
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Ganado on March 18, 2010, 11:17:19 pm
I just wish the rate at which the (thief) tag comes and goes is increased. It is easily possible to stand near the exit (or maybe not even that close) of NCR and when a thief comes up to you, they go before you even get to see if it was actually a thief attempt, or a person going "Shift/ Exclamation Mark".
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: UbiValkin on March 19, 2010, 01:16:11 pm
I just wish the rate at which the (thief) tag comes and goes is increased. It is easily possible to stand near the exit (or maybe not even that close) of NCR and when a thief comes up to you, they go before you even get to see if it was actually a thief attempt, or a person going "Shift/ Exclamation Mark".
Yeah, I once was running by thief-acc in NCR and always shouted "U ALL <bad word>" if any players were near me, so nobody can't see <thief> tag on me. By the way acc's name was like HelloImThief or something like that, can't remember. Anyway nobody touched me.
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: strelok on March 19, 2010, 05:49:25 pm
Yea just like yesterday when I spent 3 hours gettings materials for guns and armor. Went to Junktown to train gunsmith and right in the middle there were guards basically running in place and warping back to their spot.

So I got PK'ed in the middle of town (Doc-AV the name or something) with a couple other "dangerous" people. I couldn't even tell what the hell happened but I think the guard shot me down and the pks got to loot me. Also, might I mention that I came back to see if I could get my stuff back and the pks shot me dead again. What's the point? To be an asshole? Sounds like frustrated virgins that can only get some sort of satisfaction in life by killing people in games. I'm glad I wasn't born ugly, nerdy and unfriendly.

come on man... in the middle of town?? Just disable combat in a few towns, preferably the newbie ones...but no, the game tends to the assholes.
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Wichura on March 19, 2010, 06:55:21 pm
Just disable combat in a few towns, preferably the newbie ones...but no, the game tends to the assholes.
What about thieves? You want to kill them if you be able, don't you? Disabling combat in towns, even "newbie ones" (which one are these anyway?), won't let you defend yourself from thieves and bombers.
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Kharaam on March 20, 2010, 04:40:38 pm
well, got killed in Junktown?  I also did a few times...don't worry it is just a game. Don't try to understand PK's- noone does for real.
one small tip. before you go inside the town, check what's inside with town/world button, it is very usefull since you don't need to go inside :)
if you get killed... well it happens- robbers are everywhere in Postapocalyptia, the world is harsh and life here not easy too. Get used to it!
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Lenon on March 23, 2010, 03:03:37 am
Heh its true.
I start play yesterday. First character stuck in room with closed doors (i close them...) and noone open it for me. Shit happens all the time.
Today i start with new char. To be exacly 4 characters. Everytime I spawn first time on map I got killed and looted, one time after loading screen I was dead. Guys with powah armorz... no guards in Junktown. I get rly pissed off but this is the time when we are waiting for wipe. people start to crazy and U need to w8. And remember to be aware. Its tricky with yelling "thief" isnt it?
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Swinglinered on March 23, 2010, 05:18:14 am
Heh its true.
I start play yesterday. First character stuck in room with closed doors (i close them...) and noone open it for me. Shit happens all the time.
Today i start with new char. To be exacly 4 characters. Everytime I spawn first time on map I got killed and looted, one time after loading screen I was dead. Guys with powah armorz... no guards in Junktown. I get rly pissed off but this is the time when we are waiting for wipe. people start to crazy and U need to w8. And remember to be aware. Its tricky with yelling "thief" isnt it?

Your experience is a result of the prewipe crazy, as you suspect.

PA is not normally available.

Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Hertz on March 23, 2010, 06:00:42 am
since playing with the pa it seem strange why it isnt implemented.doesnt seem to affect pvp to much,kinda balances mercs (kinda)
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: gordulan on March 24, 2010, 03:45:29 pm
imagine 20 guys with APA MK2 and miniguns (with the customary 10 supermutants with RLs) entering modoc and sitting there for 4 hours slaughtering anything that comes in.
Title: Re: What the hell are the GUARDS for?
Post by: Tyler on March 24, 2010, 04:09:38 pm
I totaly disagree with you here brother,Im glad we dont have this top teir equipment in fonline.Its nice to play around with it for a little while and be gods for a week but already im bored with it I'm ready for the wipe to come and turn it all back to normal.I go around the map and find some stashes of good stuff around but I also find that the guys that already have more than they need are hording all the rest and not sharing.Normally I wouldnt mind this so much because I prefer to stay simple with my equipment but I cant compete with gods in apa with pulse weapons and gauss rifles while I run around with a combat jacket and a sniper rifle.I guess I could go and get some CA but its still not going to be much help.I feel like having these things available all the time would just widen the gap between the the super rich and the casual gamers even more.