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Title: because energy weapons do not have good damage?????
Post by: tanke plasma on July 28, 2012, 09:44:20 pm
because energy weapons do not have good damage? I can only use gatling laser by the laser and plasma do not have good damage
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Post by: Nilas on July 28, 2012, 09:45:46 pm
because melee weapons do not have good damage? I can only use club by the normal and electrical do not have good damage
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Post by: X_Treme on July 28, 2012, 09:48:52 pm
franco te lo explico en español porque se ve que no se te da bien el ingles, en la ultima actualizacion mejoraron los cascos, subiendole el doble de resistencia al daño y el doble de resistencia al critico haciendo que sea mas dificil meter criticos, y cuando esos criticos salen, salen con muy poco daño, ademas nerfearon el perk right between in the eyes, haciend que sea aun mas dificil meter criticos, por lo menos ahora los energy son una porqueria, haciendo que el propio rifle plasma saque menos que el rifle laser

cya

PD: sorry for the spanish
Title: Re: because energy weapons do not have good damage?????
Post by: tanke plasma on July 28, 2012, 09:50:15 pm
ah listo gracias entonses los ew son una porqueria por ahora
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Post by: Kool-Aid on July 28, 2012, 09:51:05 pm
because big guns do not have good damage? I can only use avenger by the fire and explosion do not have good damage
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Post by: greenthumb on July 28, 2012, 09:56:30 pm
 me think you not speak english vel, me want you read dictionary,
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Post by: tanke plasma on July 28, 2012, 10:04:06 pm
no iam not english and i think u are idiot
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Post by: greenthumb on July 28, 2012, 10:08:06 pm
iam kidding becouse your sentences are really incomprehensible.

But iam glad you can think, just learn to use google translator now.
Title: Re: because energy weapons do not have good damage?????
Post by: tanke plasma on July 28, 2012, 10:09:11 pm
Go Spleep dude
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Post by: Alexandrite on July 28, 2012, 11:06:58 pm
Quote from: tanke plasma on July 28, 2012, 10:04:06 pm
no iam not english and i think u are idiot

You just called a local moderator and idiot! How rude! :o
Title: Re: because energy weapons do not have good damage?????
Post by: X_Treme on July 29, 2012, 12:34:15 am
Quote from: tanke plasma on July 28, 2012, 09:50:15 pm
ah listo gracias entonses los ew son una porqueria por ahora

lo que si podes hacer y lo eh probado, es disparar al groin y es mas dificil meter criticos ahi, pero es mas facil meter bypass, y ahi los bypass, el calculo sale con mas daño que a los ojos, lo eh probado, daño de 120 / 160 / 180, no esperes sacar mas de eso

PD: again, sorry for the spanish, the matter is, this guy cant speak english, and he dont understand me, so..
Title: Re: because energy weapons do not have good damage?????
Post by: tanke plasma on July 29, 2012, 12:50:20 am
LISTOO GRACIAS :))
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Post by: racoon on July 29, 2012, 01:26:16 am
(http://memearchive.net/memerial.net/587/whats-going-on-in-this-thr.jpg)
Title: Re: because energy weapons do not have good damage?????
Post by: racoon on July 29, 2012, 01:35:22 am
Quote from: tanke plasma on July 28, 2012, 09:44:20 pm
because energy weapons do not have good damage? I can only use gatling laser by the laser and plasma do not have good damage

i think because your characters dont have rbte perk and snipers received nerf in last update. without rbte they're worthless you can deleteself. have fun!
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Post by: Johnnybravo on July 29, 2012, 01:40:42 am
That's how you create exciting perks, heh.

Better hope we will not have to take perk "gunner" to even shoot weapons next season :d.
Title: Re: because energy weapons do not have good damage?????
Post by: T-888 on July 29, 2012, 02:01:31 am
Quote from: racoon on July 29, 2012, 01:35:22 am
i think because your characters dont have rbte perk and snipers received nerf in last update. without rbte they're worthless you can deleteself. have fun!

Nothing to do with perks, lower critical chance decrease damage indirectly, you can understand that you will do less damage overall, but you will hardly notice that because of frequency in comparison to how raw damage nerf stands out. Changes for RBtE and helmets haven't touched damage, witch could be easily observed if it was, and it happens to be the case and that these changes aren't responsible for that.

Quote from: Solar on February 19, 2012, 10:39:06 pm
Anyway, in building the next bit of the spreadsheet, to test bursts and their criticals, I learnt that I had applied the critical damage modifier in error (its applied before DT, not after). So slight amendments to the single shot damages:

Applied with update 28/06/2012, wasn't mentioned in the changelog.

Practical armors/helmets have high DT toward lazer resistance witch explains that lazer damage is affected by this change the most.

Personal input. That "fix" wasn't necessary at all, it was like that for a long long time and the balance was made around that, now it's just a nerf and not only for lazer, but aimed shots in general.
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Post by: Brujah on July 29, 2012, 04:04:40 am
I knocked at least 4 guys today using a sniper with no RBtE, what are you people talking about?
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Post by: X_Treme on July 29, 2012, 10:21:00 am
yeah, you can ko that guys, but what happen with your damage? was high? or low?
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Post by: Xisingr Will on July 29, 2012, 10:39:07 am
So this Thread is about how bad damage Energy Weapons are?...
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Post by: DeputyDope on July 29, 2012, 11:49:05 am
Quote from: Xisingr Will on July 29, 2012, 10:39:07 am
So this Thread is about how bad damage Energy Weapons are?...

yes.
Title: Re: because energy weapons do not have good damage?????
Post by: Brujah on July 29, 2012, 05:11:51 pm
Quote from: X_Treme on July 29, 2012, 10:21:00 am
yeah, you can ko that guys, but what happen with your damage? was high? or low?

20~ dmg non crits and 60-120 dmg crit.
Title: Re: because energy weapons do not have good damage?????
Post by: Grizzan on August 01, 2012, 01:34:38 pm
they have you are just noob and cant use ew properly
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Post by: Kelin on August 01, 2012, 01:50:47 pm
Quote from: T-888 on July 29, 2012, 02:01:31 am
Personal input. That "fix" wasn't necessary at all, it was like that for a long long time and the balance was made around that, now it's just a nerf and not only for lazer, but aimed shots in general.
Exactly. Energy weapons weren't nerfed, the recent changes hurt mainly all aimed shots. It's so frustrating to know that you simply cannot kill your enemy. Big gunner does constant devastating damage but sniper does 14, 17 and wow critical hit for 43 dmg! Something must be wrong because I don't use snipers anymore (sniper class is my favourite btw).
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Post by: T-888 on August 01, 2012, 02:18:04 pm
So now i guess we need to beg for changes to be undone, again. Great, the spirit of 2238 never dies, always cursed.
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Post by: manero on August 01, 2012, 02:45:47 pm
You know what is funny? Current season was the only one that no one whined about aimed crits, not even me :) crits were very, very good but on the other hand bursts were also good so there was a balance. I can't understand why devs nerfed aimed crits.
Title: Re: because energy weapons do not have good damage?????
Post by: T-888 on August 01, 2012, 02:56:57 pm
Quote from: manero on August 01, 2012, 02:45:47 pm
I can't understand why devs nerfed aimed crits.

It's simple, Solar changed the damage formula because it didn't make sense to him. There's nothing complicated about that.
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Post by: Eternauta on August 01, 2012, 03:48:58 pm
Quote from: X_Treme on July 29, 2012, 12:34:15 am
bypass

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Post by: TKs-KaBoom on August 01, 2012, 07:24:50 pm
Yeah its so awesome biggunners are all that matter, snipers suck dick, lasers suck dick, plasma licks cock and balls.  Fantastic game!  PvP there is only one mould to use, big gunners.  Ac trolls and HH are honorable mentions......
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Post by: Doobee on August 03, 2012, 04:17:11 pm
I usualy do 120-200 eye crits with plasma and pretty much the same (-20 maybe?) with lazer and even magneto so ye the dmg needs to be bufed because I cant one hit that mutant!
Title: Re: because energy weapons do not have good damage?????
Post by: _Youkai_ on August 03, 2012, 05:09:04 pm
Quote from: manero on August 01, 2012, 02:45:47 pm
You know what is funny? Current season was the only one that no one whined about aimed crits, not even me :) crits were very, very good but on the other hand bursts were also good so there was a balance. I can't understand why devs nerfed aimed crits.

I never thought that I would say this, but... I totaly agree with you.
Title: Re: because energy weapons do not have good damage?????
Post by: Swinglinered on August 08, 2012, 12:02:52 am
Are mines craftable yet?