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Title: Please make change of TC
Post by: Barons on June 18, 2012, 08:24:35 am
If it return old think TC,I think  played on server 120 players middling on-line  ;)
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Barons on June 18, 2012, 08:25:57 am
I am Czech so I do not speak good English  :-\
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Spotty on June 18, 2012, 09:18:13 am
I agree on both points. Bring back the any of the old TC's, or perhaps remove it altogether?
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: dominance on June 18, 2012, 11:51:15 am
What is a TC?
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 18, 2012, 12:26:06 pm
Town Control
Its when a player driven faction takes over a town.
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: DeputyDope on June 18, 2012, 12:32:06 pm
What is a TC?

that thing where you live with 5 or more people in a dirty toilet.
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: manero on June 18, 2012, 12:45:00 pm
What is a TC?

The only sensible thing to do in FO.
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: T-888 on June 18, 2012, 12:46:10 pm
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,23546.msg195210.html#msg195210

I failed, i usually don't fail. That's because nobody of importance is reading this forum once in a month.
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Roachor on June 18, 2012, 05:17:26 pm
that thing where you live with 5 or more people in a dirty toilet.
college?
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: MRtrader on June 18, 2012, 06:49:38 pm
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,23546.msg195210.html#msg195210

I failed, i usually don't fail. That's because nobody of importance is reading this forum once in a month.

i voted yes just now..not that it will make a diffrence.  the results of the vote mad me lol
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: avv on June 18, 2012, 06:50:00 pm
Even if you "fix" tc, pvp will still suck because of unbalance. Silent death grenades and critbursts make pvp extremely un-fun. Even with bad tc there's still chance to have good pvp, so I'd put fixing sd and critburst in top priority list.
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: MRtrader on June 18, 2012, 06:51:20 pm
em server fix priority please? :P
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: maciek83 on June 18, 2012, 06:52:55 pm
yea , last time i was critbursted by minigunner who had 280hp - so i guess he had 1% critchance, i had combat armor so his critchance was like -9% ? still he one shooted me ,thats retarded
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Kelin on June 18, 2012, 07:09:02 pm
yea , last time i was critbursted by minigunner who had 280hp - so i guess he had 1% critchance, i had combat armor so his critchance was like -9% ? still he one shooted me ,thats retarded
Are you serious? You can make 286 hp build with 12 AP brof and 25% crit. chance + spray and pray. That's why this whole concept is retarded. Builds like this should be impossible to make. Proper balance would be a 12APbrof build having ~150 hp on drugs or 290 hp low ap build (max 10 ap with drugs).
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Perteks on June 18, 2012, 07:35:37 pm
Are you serious? You can make 286 hp build with 12 AP brof and 25% crit. chance + spray and pray. That's why this whole concept is retarded. Builds like this should be impossible to make. Proper balance would be a 12APbrof build having ~150 hp on drugs or 290 hp low ap build (max 10 ap with drugs).
With no brd :)
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Xisingr Will on June 18, 2012, 07:39:53 pm
The builds are just fine as they are, and sd and crit bursting is a play style so why in hell would they remove that?
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Perteks on June 18, 2012, 07:53:46 pm
Because is imbalanced and shitty feature what shouldnt be implemented :)
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Ganado on June 18, 2012, 07:57:14 pm
If you don't think SD is a problem, then you don't know what you're talking about. It is one of the most ridiculous features... Solar had plans to nerf it, but last time he was online was in March, I think.

Even if you "fix" tc, pvp will still suck because of unbalance. Silent death grenades and critbursts make pvp extremely un-fun. Even with bad tc there's still chance to have good pvp, so I'd put fixing sd and critburst in top priority list.
Yes, fixing those mechanics first are more important, I agree.
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Xisingr Will on June 18, 2012, 08:10:16 pm
Hmmm yes i dont know much of what im talking about.
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Giftless on June 18, 2012, 08:14:06 pm
Are you serious? You can make 286 hp build with 12 AP brof and 25% crit. chance + spray and pray. That's why this whole concept is retarded. Builds like this should be impossible to make. Proper balance would be a 12APbrof build having ~150 hp on drugs or 290 hp low ap build (max 10 ap with drugs).

Also why does the game favor huge HP soaks as opposed to there being a baseline AC to deflect some of the shots?
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Johnnybravo on June 18, 2012, 11:24:57 pm
I always saw Fallout combat very similar to XCOM one - things flying around, and sometimes shit happens.
Grenade crits, and running to 1 hex to get impossible damage bonus is just weird in my opinion.
Though 1 hex bursting was big problem ever, it was always rather weird feature - at least compared to something that would be far less binary.
Anyway even with great balance on numbers or tactics, you also need some balance in game economy - so that you don't get 200 BA from botting for a week, but you don't spend whole game in leather jacket either.
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Simon on June 19, 2012, 03:28:22 am
Yes avv is correct, first crappy mechanics like crit bursts and sd should be fixed before trying to fix the TC.
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Kelin on June 19, 2012, 08:12:09 am
With no brd :)
Correct, but also you can make 20% cch. with 1x more ranged damage, which isn't that bad.
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Barons on June 19, 2012, 06:19:04 pm
This was to be the topic of TC and not about building character. lol ::)
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Lynch on June 19, 2012, 08:32:08 pm
You know what I really fucking hate?? Its when I kill a bunch of people on the map and then the goddamn fuckign NPC's like  HUB police kill me for looting the bodies that ive killed. This is bullshit and it needs to stop right fucking now. Why they need to loot bodies is a mystery to me anyway. first off why do they loot and second, what give them the right to loot the shit on guys i have killed. is this just another dick in the ass of ll the people struggling to play this game without being murdered every 3 minuets. what the fuck man. just turn this shit off already!
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: Ganado on June 20, 2012, 03:33:22 am
If you're talking about random encounters, tell me, if you had a patrol of 5 people in CA, wouldn't you take advantage of that and loot what you can? You should be happy they don't shoot you. :) That's what gives them the right to loot, but I agree it is annoying -- if there could be feature that distinguishes your kills from their kills, it would be better.
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on June 20, 2012, 03:37:05 am
yes, change TC, the gang issues and faction announcements is what kept the game alive,

now look at them, it is boring over there
Title: Re: Please make change of TC
Post by: avv on June 20, 2012, 09:07:41 am
This was to be the topic of TC and not about building character. lol ::)

But tc is about character builds because it's done partially via pvp. If pvp is unbalanced and random, tc won't be any fun.