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Title: Good melee build
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on June 07, 2012, 05:19:42 am
Is anyone willing to share a melee build that has lots of AC, HP and can do crits with the HtH perks?
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Gimper on June 07, 2012, 07:11:40 am
Are u sure u mean melee, or do u mean unarmed? Cuz either way I have good builds

Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Roachor on June 07, 2012, 07:44:56 am
(http://i49.tinypic.com/13zbviq.jpg)

You can swap out melee for unarmed its the same build, is beautiful with super sledge since knockback removes your enemies ap's you can stunlock, plus huge dmg on crits. Doc was a throw away skill, tag whatever as a third you won't be putting points into it.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 07, 2012, 10:15:35 am
Without sneak in tags your build will be weak as a baby fart.

Also as far as I remember AC cap is and ll'b in game so don't even try to make "high armor class build" cus it is freakin' pointless.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 07, 2012, 10:25:29 am
Quote from: Roachor on June 07, 2012, 07:44:56 am
knockback
Flyback you mean?
It ain't useful, it makes melee fightin' definitely harder.
(double postin' uber alles...)
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: MRtrader on June 07, 2012, 10:34:19 am
Quote from: Roachor on June 07, 2012, 07:44:56 am
(http://i49.tinypic.com/13zbviq.jpg)

You can swap out melee for unarmed its the same build, is beautiful with super sledge since knockback removes your enemies ap's you can stunlock, plus huge dmg on crits. Doc was a throw away skill, tag whatever as a third you won't be putting points into it.
perception 1? what is he almost blind? can you actually see your opponent? :P
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 07, 2012, 10:35:26 am
Quote from: MRtrader on June 07, 2012, 10:34:19 am
perception 1? what is he almost blind? can you actually see your opponent? :P
1 is enough in pvp only if you got high sneak.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: racoon on June 07, 2012, 02:20:28 pm
(http://oi49.tinypic.com/28tawi8.jpg)

my best. crafter, double eye, nice crits, lots of hp. high doc/fa/out
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on June 07, 2012, 02:33:36 pm
Quote from: racoon on June 07, 2012, 02:20:28 pm
(http://oi49.tinypic.com/28tawi8.jpg)

my best. crafter, double eye, nice crits, lots of hp. high doc/fa/out
I like this one, but is 5 luck really needed?
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: racoon on June 07, 2012, 03:15:02 pm
5 luck means less critical failures and higher crit chance. overall crit chance is 20% on this build. i've tested it even on hinkley and it works perfect with knives.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 07, 2012, 06:06:29 pm
Quote from: racoon on June 07, 2012, 02:20:28 pm
(http://oi49.tinypic.com/28tawi8.jpg)
5st for melee fighter?
What a waste of char points, mah'lord.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Roachor on June 07, 2012, 06:41:13 pm
When you hit people with knockback it drains their ap, with high agi you hit them again before they recover, if theres no space behind them they get stunlocked. 5str/5 luck is a garbage build, luck should only ever be 1,6 or 10 and having anything less than max damage with melee/unarmed means you're too weak to do anything. Sneak is great but its only good until you start attacking, the perks and skill points required plus having 10 int really weakens hth builds, sneak builds survive a lot less longer in a fight.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 07, 2012, 06:52:13 pm
Quote from: Roachor on June 07, 2012, 06:41:13 pm
When you hit people with knockback it drains their ap, with high agi you hit them again before they recover, if theres no space behind them they get stunlocked. 5str/5 luck is a garbage build, luck should only ever be 1,6 or 10 and having anything less than max damage with melee/unarmed means you're too weak to do anything. Sneak is great but its only good until you start attacking, the perks and skill points required plus having 10 int really weakens hth builds, sneak builds survive a lot less longer in a fight.
very true now here is my ultimate unarmed build

Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: racoon on June 08, 2012, 03:11:23 pm
Quote from: Uftak on June 07, 2012, 06:06:29 pm
5st for melee fighter?
What a waste of char points, mah'lord.

yea i know it could even be 1 st or 2... but its universal build, not pro pvp
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: DeputyDope on June 08, 2012, 04:01:04 pm
Quote from: Uftak on June 07, 2012, 10:15:35 am
Without sneak in tags your build will be weak as a baby fart.

Also as far as I remember AC cap is and ll'b in game so don't even try to make "high armor class build" cus it is freakin' pointless.
'

care to share with us your h4rdc0r3 ub3r m3l33 bu1ld PLOX?
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Roachor on June 08, 2012, 05:24:32 pm
Quote from: racoon on June 08, 2012, 03:11:23 pm
yea i know it could even be 1 st or 2... but its universal build, not pro pvp

haha @ melee being pvp build. Also he asked for a good build, not a shit ncr idler build.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 06:44:08 pm
Quote from: DeputyDope on June 08, 2012, 04:01:04 pm
'

care to share with us your h4rdc0r3 ub3r m3l33 bu1ld PLOX?
You're such a sorry ass, GoofyDeputoy.
Eat it.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 08, 2012, 06:55:06 pm
Quote from: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 06:44:08 pm
You're such a sorry ass, GoofyDeputoy.
Eat it.

wow that build is shit you choose chem resistant and not heavy handed? 191hp?science??
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 06:58:25 pm
Quote from: Cyber Jesus on June 08, 2012, 06:55:06 pm
wow that build is shit you choose chem resistant and not heavy handed? 191hp?science??
Everything was planned well in ma' build.
Chem resis is great if you're usin' jet.
Science is useful for additional skill points, ew proffessions and that exp givin' perk.

I got no idea wtf you mean with HH.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Roachor on June 08, 2012, 07:24:15 pm
@jesus hh has no benefit to melee


^unarmed sneak build, bruiser/hh
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 07:31:05 pm
Quote from: Roachor on June 08, 2012, 07:24:15 pm
@jesus hh has no benefit to melee


^unarmed sneak build, bruiser/hh
Heavy handed is a mistake of f2238 developer(s) and it makes unarmed better tha' melee.
But it's a nice build.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: DeputyDope on June 08, 2012, 08:30:45 pm
science! AHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHHHAHAHHA!

ya make me laugh man.

why not doc skill?

PS: unarmed is NOT better than melee. some melee weapons got a range of 2, thus a hammer knockback could easily incapacitate an unarmed guy.

PSS:

here is my unarmed/melee character. i made some mistakes with it(due to having no information on some perks), but it did what it was supposed to do. and it wasn't planned too much. also it's a good starter build for new players.

(https://i.imgur.com/5KkHF.jpg)
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 08:48:24 pm
Quote from: DeputyDope on June 08, 2012, 08:30:45 pm
science! AHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHHHAHAHHA!

ya make me laugh man.

why not doc skill?

PS: unarmed is NOT better than melee. some melee weapons got a range of 2, thus a hammer knockback could easily incapacitate an unarmed guy.
I see that you are even more stupid(impossible, isn't it?) than I though' before.
Next time try to create your own builds (builds, not shit that you did up there) before you post smth in thread like this.

Post scriptum
Is that "AHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHHHAHAHHA!" a mistic trollgasm, or you just choke?
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 08, 2012, 08:56:11 pm
what do you think about my build guys?
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 08:58:34 pm
Quote from: Cyber Jesus on June 08, 2012, 08:56:11 pm
what do you think about my build guys?
Epic, gambling and h2h skills are great durin' poker matches.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: DeputyDope on June 08, 2012, 09:01:16 pm
Quote from: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 08:48:24 pm
I see that you are even more stupid(impossible, isn't it?) than I though' before.
and you insult me even though i didn't. AGAIN! you got some issues, kid.

Quote from: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 08:48:24 pm
Next time try to create your own builds (builds, not shit that you did up there) before you post smth in thread like this.
1. that's my own build.
2. that's a good starter build. i even admitted i did some mistakes with character planning.
3. this thread is about posting melee builds and talking about them. you have NO RIGHT to tell me NOT to post anything just because i told ya science is a bad choice for unarmed/melee character. hell, for COMBAT CHARACTER in general.

Quote from: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 08:48:24 pm
Post scriptum
Is that "AHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHHHAHAHHA!" a mistic trollgasm, or you just choke?

trollgasm.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 09:08:58 pm
Quote from: DeputyDope on June 08, 2012, 08:30:45 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/5KkHF.jpg)
It ain't a melee build, but an unarmed.

And I shall be rewared 4 insultin' ya, cus beggars trolls shall be punished for their crimes behavior.

In other words, I want to be banned in a nice way.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: DeputyDope on June 08, 2012, 09:13:53 pm
Quote from: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 09:08:58 pm
It ain't a melee build, but an unarmed.

in case you got 1 PE irl(like your @wZ3m bu1ld) that character got 127% melee skill.

Quote from: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 09:08:58 pm
And I shall be rewared 4 insultin' ya, cus beggars trolls shall be punished for their crimes behavior.

still raging coz i put a bomb in your pocket and given you 8 minute replication? quit being so melodramatic you're making me laugh. what's next? you're gonna type in the passage of Ezekiel 25:17?

Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: DeputyDope on June 08, 2012, 09:26:05 pm
Quote from: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 09:21:38 pm
It's not a rage, it's a duty.

I guess it looks familiar to you

with this post you have proven to me that you have the value of a toilet paper after i wiped my ass with it.

i stop replying to this thread. have a nice day.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on June 08, 2012, 09:28:49 pm
Quote from: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 06:44:08 pm
You're such a sorry ass, GoofyDeputoy.
Eat it.
I asked a melee build, not a sneaker.

And please, stop raging at each other, just wanted a build.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: racoon on June 08, 2012, 09:31:43 pm
what the hell is going on here? Cyber Jesus build is joke, Uftak's build also... 287% sneak? too low, it would be 300 if you wont waste sp on science... also melee skill higher than necessary. Mine build is far best here.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 09:32:46 pm
Quote from: racoon on June 08, 2012, 09:31:43 pm
what the hell is going on here? Cyber Jesus build is joke, Uftak's build also... 287% sneak? too low, it would be 300 if you wont waste sp on science... also melee skill higher than necessary. Mine build is far best here.
287 + 30 from ghost.
Trust me, it's enough.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: racoon on June 08, 2012, 09:35:56 pm
in open space snipers can see you from ~25 hexes. also your luck is too high. i'd take 1 because bonus hth dmg+ adds 15%, and as i can see its designed to silent death so again... why so high luck?
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 09:40:54 pm
Quote from: racoon on June 08, 2012, 09:31:43 pm
it would be 300
it would be 279.

Quote
why so high luck?
Read about crit chance mechanics.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: racoon on June 08, 2012, 09:44:32 pm
snipers will see you from better distance than you them. finished talking about your shitty build
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 09:48:49 pm
Quote from: racoon on June 08, 2012, 09:44:32 pm
snipers will see you from better distance than you them. finished talking about your shitty build
Snipers see all sneakers from similar distance, they are counter to them.
Also your build is even more useless against high PE gunners.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: T-888 on June 09, 2012, 12:28:13 am
Quote from: Uftak on June 08, 2012, 09:32:46 pm
287 + 30 from ghost.

Too much. This wipe , sneak is capped at 300 and that means nothing can exceed that limit , no ghost , no wall , no barrel bonus. Sneak penalties are applied after all other bonuses and when sneak is capped at 300 , that is how the script works. Very predictable if someone asks me the source of the information , that's why i will say it for the countless time , i did some tests in CBT. Vertification , http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,19266.0.html

Ghost doesn't give + 30 sneak anymore , if you didn't know this wipe there is a sneak bonus applied when being near walls (For being hidden behind an object (there is an unpassable scenery between the opponent and the target no more than 2 hexes from the opponent): +60 sneak ). The default distance required to acquire the bonus from walls and unpassable scenery objects is 1 hex and when you have Ghost , distance is extended to 5 hexes.

So that means if you have 300 sneak then wall , barrel , scenery object bonuses are completely obsolete , as well Ghost.

nubs :)

and all these 1 luck builds are just dog food for SD sneakers , for the third or fourth time. Luck is responsible for the chance to get bypassed , not only to score bypasses. With 1 luck the SD sneaker has 70% chance to bypass you when he throws that plasma grenade that unleash a doze of hot burning plasma that in truth could burn through your bones , i don't have to tell anyone that if you are bypassed then you are dead , though in comparison with 10 luck the chance is boiled down to 0% and you can't get insta-GG shot , ever if you have sufficient amount of health or and armor.

... in simple language and tongue , 2 is better than 1 and 3 is better than 2.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Hellion on June 09, 2012, 02:50:10 am
I think there are a lot of choises. So main problem what your need.
hth/mele without sneak with pf: http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5263 (http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5263) maybe + drugs.
hth/mele sneak + pf + drugs http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5264 (http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5264)
of course, you able to pick other combination of perks
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Tomowolf on June 09, 2012, 03:31:46 am
Quote from: Hellion on June 09, 2012, 02:50:10 am
I think there are a lot of choises. So main problem what your need.
hth/mele without sneak with pf: http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5263 (http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5263) maybe + drugs.
hth/mele sneak + pf + drugs http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5264 (http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5264)
of course, you able to pick other combination of perks
melee with sneak sucks, just sucks, you can't frag anyone unless he is noob/standing/shop buying, and max dmg u'll deal is 150~ (or endless ko if u re using unarmed + hh), tested and I dont recomend this type of alt to anyone.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Hellion on June 09, 2012, 04:20:37 am
Quote
you can't frag anyone unless he is noob/standing/shop buying
Thx cap, melee/unarmed can't hit while target running. I think every melee/unarmed build will suck because burst 1 hex and goodbye. Show your decision for us.
Title: Re: Good melee build
Post by: Uftak on June 09, 2012, 08:28:53 am
Quote from: Hellion on June 09, 2012, 04:20:37 am
I think every melee/unarmed build will suck because burst 1 hex and goodbye.
Ye... sadly, melee and unarmed ain't for pvp.
Shame that every build has same runnin' speed.