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Title: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Eternauta on May 22, 2012, 05:04:45 pm
(http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/images/8/87/TLL1.jpg)

We call ourselves The Last Light. We are a group of individuals interested in giving a hand to new players.

Our main goals are:


Wiki article (http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/The_Last_Light)
IRC Channel*: #TheLastLight

*No idea how to use IRC? -> Read this! (http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/IRC)



We’ve noticed that many people decide to quit this game after playing it for a very short time. Many complain the game is too hard, that they die too often, too easily, which means they are losing their items all the time, many find it extremely hard to even create their first tent. And many find this game just boring. So these players don’t last long in the server, and this is one of the reasons the server’s population is so low at the moment. Since 2238 has no in-game tutorial or startup help, The Last Light can be seen as a player-driven “newbie tutorial”, where new players can gather and learn the game while playing. It will be possible for them to achieve their first goals more easily and to meet other people they could team up with. The game will be less boring for everyone if there’s more people playing – even PKs will have moar people to pew pew!

Some of us are members of factions of very different kinds, some of us are loners. The Last Light has no ties to any specific faction. Its commitment is with new players and with the server in general.

The Last Light is, as said, a network of trustworthy individuals, and not a real faction, although there are a few people that control the group’s base and have other similar forms of “power” or authority. But this is only to keep a minimum level of efficiency. Nobody is to be considered the leader of The Last Light.

The group owns a base, which will be used as a meeting point and maybe as a safe zone for newbies to trade, craft, talk to each other, etc. But everyone should remember that this is just a shared territory – never leave your personal items there!

If you are a newbie and are in need of a hand, even if it’s just about getting a good advice, you can ask members of The Last Light for help. However, we won’t tell you to wait in a town, for example, while we’re out hunting brahmins. If you want our help you’ll have to move and do things as well.

We want to organize newbies in expeditions to hunt Brahmins, to visit mines, to get Professions or Support Perks, etc. We want newbies to learn the game while playing and encourage them to work in teams. We would also like to prepare player-driven events (including some little RP events) in which new players can participate.

The purpose of this group is to bring some more life to the server and have fun together while helping the server’s new blood. Any player with good intentions and similar interests is invited to help us in our activities, no matter what faction they belong to. If you want to give a hand just join our IRC channel. Anyone is invited as long as they have good intentions.



Here are two starting guides: Gob's one (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,23362.msg193910.html#msg193910) and my own one (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,28493.msg245806.html#msg245806). I am leaving both of them even thought they're quite similar to each other.

Last but not least, www.nitue.net is a website with some projects by 2238 player Opera, it includes an Encounter Finder and a Character Planner.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Luther Blissett on May 22, 2012, 06:48:12 pm
How would someone go about joining this?
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Giftless on May 22, 2012, 07:20:49 pm
Yes, I would like to visit and observe occasionally.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Gob on May 22, 2012, 10:08:43 pm
omg give me a hand, no 2 wait I want your feet aswell
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Xisingr Will on May 23, 2012, 04:25:15 am
Do you think i could go about helping you guys help newbies? I like helping new players :D
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on May 23, 2012, 05:43:19 am
Did you get Last Light from the upcoming Metro that is gonna come out?
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: MRtrader on May 23, 2012, 03:28:31 pm
Did you get Last Light from the upcoming Metro that is gonna come out?

hey didn't knew about metro 2 nice
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: falloutdude on May 23, 2012, 03:48:43 pm
Did you get Last Light from the upcoming Metro that is gonna come out?
no its a real name in the free faction names. we picked it because we might be some newbies last hope. so we are the last light in there darkness in this game.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: wladimiiir on May 23, 2012, 04:46:17 pm
no its a real name in the free faction names. we picked it because we might be some newbies last hope. so we are the last light in there darkness in this game.
And newbies are last hope for this server, so basically we are the Last Light for the server :)
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Malice Song on May 23, 2012, 05:58:58 pm
Personally I choose to attribute it to process of accelerated elimination.
You see, The Shoot First Gang wasn't sufficiently befitting.
In this manner the list of prospects can be slimmed down to a large degree.
Even then the leftovers are of a similarly narcissistic nature.

'Tis certainly curious, but rather telling, if I may say so.
I wouldn't pay it too much heed, though, to be perfectly blunt.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Eternauta on May 24, 2012, 04:36:39 am
Update!

Added information about our IRC channel, as well as a list with some of our members and their characters.

______________________________________

To those who were asking about joining/helping us: non-members who want to help can of course come to our IRC and speak to us about joining activities. Also you can find us in-game, but keep in mind that we might not always accept you in our groups if we can't confirm you're legit.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Rain on May 24, 2012, 05:00:21 am
Eternauta,you are as great as always.And i want to be in that,now!(runs to irc..)


Looks like new era's TLC.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Marko on May 24, 2012, 08:07:49 pm
This team is shaping up!

http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/The_Last_Light (http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/The_Last_Light)
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Who Killed Bambi on June 03, 2012, 12:26:23 am
moving up this topic :D
seems not much newbies this time reading forum
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Gob on June 03, 2012, 08:16:18 am
"A Network of helping hands" you mean that you have your hands connect to internet or wireless ?
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: DeputyDope on June 03, 2012, 08:31:59 am
useless faction. the only noobs you'll be helping are pros faking being noobs.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: wladimiiir on June 03, 2012, 05:16:09 pm
useless faction. the only noobs you'll be helping are pros faking being noobs.
Dont worry, I can see the difference between real newbie and pro faking it. And we are not offering pro items rather knowledge how to obtain them, so there is no reason to fake it anyway ;)
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: greenthumb on June 03, 2012, 05:23:54 pm
Sorry for offtopic.

Iam posting here some guides for gathering resources. This should be useful for newbie crafters. Over time we can make guide for every resource.

Mass mining regular iron ore and minerals.
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,24202.0.html

Most efficient gathering junks.
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,24161.msg202185.html#msg202185
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,24161.msg202209.html#msg202209

Both this guides are made for alts. So if you are new in game u should not start with this, but create some sort of crafter with tagged small gun skill before.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Who Killed Bambi on June 03, 2012, 05:26:42 pm
Easy bottle caps ( or manual about gathering caps ) :

http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,23025.0.html
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: John.Metzger on June 29, 2012, 11:19:38 pm
just here to say /push
thanks for your attention.
a pity that such potentially helpful treads pushed away with alot new "i need help with problem xxx" in this forum section.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Xisingr Will on June 30, 2012, 12:54:26 am
Well we all are still helping so if anyone needs us just join the irc #thelastlight like it says in the first post :)
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Gunshot on July 03, 2012, 08:07:44 pm
I applied a couple of days ago. But It haven't gotten a reply yet. Just posting this to let you guys now that I applied in Proboards.

Thanks ;)
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Gunshot on July 04, 2012, 05:29:47 am
Got Banned from IRC Again -_-
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 04, 2012, 06:43:13 am
Got Banned from IRC Again -_-
I got banned, but only for like 5 hours by HexBoy

Wait, im still banned :/
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: HertogJan on July 04, 2012, 07:27:09 am
I applied a couple of days ago. But It haven't gotten a reply yet. Just posting this to let you guys now that I applied in Proboards.

Thanks ;)

The post got noted.
We discuss certain things and vote on a private section of the board.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: LagMaster on July 04, 2012, 11:26:33 pm
useless faction. the only noobs you'll be helping are pros faking being noobs.
thank you DeputyDope, you revealed my evil plan
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Eternauta on July 06, 2012, 04:05:27 pm
IMPORTANT

The Last Light is at the moment in a complicated situation as one of our members, Hexboy, decided to betray us after some internal conflicts took place. As a result, our in-game base might be compromised (password to our shared base adder, TheLastLight was given to people from outside the group) as well as our IRC channel. We hope we can deal with this situation, *soon*.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: John.Metzger on July 06, 2012, 04:14:39 pm
iam sorry for you guys.. :( hopefully this "soon" is really soon..
and also interested because this here reminds me of a thread, unfortunately closed by surf on the fast way *pointing fingers*
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,24684.msg207020.html#msg207020 (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,24684.msg207020.html#msg207020)
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Eternauta on July 06, 2012, 04:54:09 pm
Thanks, John.Metzger

Some news: we could recover the character, but the base has been compromised, and also our IRC channel is not totally safe because Hexboy could decide to abuse his admin rights again anytime.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Gunshot on July 06, 2012, 05:05:08 pm
I feel sorry as well for the situation you guys are going through.

There is always going to be somebody abusing privileges and breaking any Certain Rules or laws.

Keep at it guys. I know youll will make it through this.

Wish i could help but I cant.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Alexandrite on July 06, 2012, 07:26:49 pm
And alas, the base rapers came back...
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Xisingr Will on July 21, 2012, 08:36:38 am
A bump so more new players can find us.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: D0ub13 5c0r3 on July 21, 2012, 09:48:25 am
I could donate some brahmin hides.. I have about 16-18 of them, and I have over 1k .22 hunter rounds, and I can always craft some more ammunition and a few guns if that helps. Don't have much, but I can try to do some for newer players.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Xisingr Will on July 21, 2012, 10:18:59 am
You should probably visit us on our irc channel #thelastlight if you would like to do that, thanks.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Brujah on August 23, 2012, 06:14:14 am
And alas, the base rapers came back...

Expectable, but the whole point of this is organizing hunts and newbie stuff, not base whoring.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: FrankenStone on August 23, 2012, 06:22:32 am
i need help
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Brujah on August 23, 2012, 07:37:12 am
i need help

TLL does not provide baseraping courses.


Ask some random bald guy or advice, all of them are baserapers.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on August 23, 2012, 07:43:54 am
Never trust a bald guy
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Alexandrite on August 23, 2012, 05:08:26 pm
Never trust a bald guy

They be russians.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: foonlinecurious on August 24, 2012, 07:39:31 pm
your irc doesnt work guy, there's nothing there.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: HertogJan on August 24, 2012, 08:16:41 pm
your irc doesnt work guy, there's nothing there.

You're doing something wrong.
At the moment there are 10 people in the channel. Are you sure you didn't make a typo?
It's #thelastlight
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Brujah on August 26, 2012, 10:21:58 pm
your irc doesnt work guy, there's nothing there.

There is always someone there, you made a typo.


"/attach irc.forestnet.org"

"/join thelastlight"
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Creep on August 27, 2012, 08:03:10 pm
Eternauta, I forgot to tell you guys to add me in. I've been haunting your IRC channel since I've been back in game. Add me to TLL roster if you dont mind
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Blerter on August 27, 2012, 10:47:43 pm
I think the population is really good atm, ncr is buzzing (with trolls) and people just socialize there could do with anouther hundred players though but you know some people take the freedom you have in 2238 and turn it into something that it was not meant to be for, so yeah guys like you are good. people that burst you randomly in ncr should get bad karma and be shot on sight in ncr, simple.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Cari on August 31, 2012, 02:00:58 am
It's been quite some time, hasn't it?

Well, first of all I'd like to tell all of you how proud I am for all the work you all have done.

For those of you who don't know, I'd like to officially announce my hiatus. I've taken up a full time job and stuff so don't expect to see me around much if ever.

Secondly I'm very proud of the semblance of order that IRC has maintained in my absence. I'm sorry that I can no longer be a tangible part of this but I did manage to help a newbie during my short tour of the map today. ;)

Anyways guys, take it easy, have a blast, and please, keep this alive.

Toodles.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Eternauta on August 31, 2012, 02:19:07 am
Best of luck in your job, Cari, and thanks for your words. :)
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: HertogJan on August 31, 2012, 02:28:25 am
Seems all is going well in your personal life. Good to hear.
Good luck with everything and I'm sure we'll be seeing you.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Brujah on October 16, 2012, 04:30:22 am
Cari still alive? Nice.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: JblakeR on December 19, 2012, 01:31:08 am
Do you have an in-game radio channel? If not what is your IRC? I just posted about making a faction that is pretty much identical to this!
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Eternauta on December 19, 2012, 02:00:58 am
what is your IRC?

It's in the original post of this thread.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: greenthumb on December 19, 2012, 02:26:21 am
to join the last light IRC you can use this link, but better get client.

http://chat.forestnet.org/?channels=thelastlight
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: LostSoul on January 07, 2013, 02:14:49 am
I'd like to offer my services, if there are any new folks in need of some help.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: gauvaran on January 07, 2013, 03:03:57 am
TTL is now full of idler. No more newbie for helping  :(
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: LostSoul on January 07, 2013, 03:09:09 am
TTL is now full of idler. No more newbie for helping  :(
I've recently come back and within 2 days have found a new player. We now roam the wasteland together. So I'm still here hoping to find new wastelanders. Someone will always need a helping hand.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: shiwomitz on January 25, 2013, 07:41:05 pm
Hi I'm interested in helping you with this project. How can I join? thank you!
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: racoon on January 25, 2013, 10:33:09 pm
Hi I'm interested in helping you with this project. How can I join? thank you!

go to http://chat.forestnet.org/ (http://chat.forestnet.org/)

chose your nick, and into "channels" type #thelastlight

its lastlights chat, go there for more info.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Eternauta on March 09, 2013, 05:23:28 am
Added a link to Gob's survival guide (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,23362.msg193910.html#msg193910) in the original post.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Eternauta on March 20, 2013, 04:14:23 am
Added a link to a discussion about a starting build as well as to Opera's nitue in the original post.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Brujah on April 07, 2013, 06:10:24 am
Bump for just-ice and greater go-tea-ness.

(http://www.restaurants.ie/thumbnailpics/097.jpg)
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on April 08, 2013, 06:06:05 am
Why no noobs come into chat and say "I need Brahmin hides!!!"

It's a ghost town in there
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: JovankaB on April 08, 2013, 06:25:55 am
Why no noobs come into chat and say "I need Brahmin hides!!!"

Because you don't need them anymore for a first tent?
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Brujah on April 08, 2013, 01:06:41 pm
It's a ghost town in there

I'd say the biggest problem in TLL right now is the lack of capable people helping those newbs.


Most of the people in there right now are NCR idlers, which are welcome just like anyone else but lack in truly effective advice sometimes.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: BenKain on April 08, 2013, 08:37:57 pm
Why no noobs come into chat and say "I need Brahmin hides!!!"

A) These are not generally required for your first tent creation, but from time to time we get new players asking how to obtain their first tents.

B) We have not really had an influx of new blood recently, but we do have many players asking much more intelligent questions, rather than begging for equips. I for one take a bit of a stand against the beggars by providing sort of a newbie pack for new people I see in the wastes, including another tent for conviniance sake, but I prefer to show these players where they can get the good stuff, rather than outright giving it to them. 

I'd say the biggest problem in TLL right now is the lack of capable people helping those newbs.


Most of the people in there right now are NCR idlers, which are welcome just like anyone else but lack in truly effective advice sometimes.


As for this, at least the NCR idlers are there to provide the necessary advice and sometimes give those first equips that can be difficult to obtain as a starting player. Go out and hand out some advice and hunting rifles yourself if you think that this is a problem, you will see more new players in the IRC, rather than simply complaining about the people who are actually trying to help, instead of being haughty and arrogant about the whole situation.

edit: Also, a lot of new players are not returning, in my opinion and perceptions of course, because TLL has become a sort of training/recruiting ground for C88, and that can make players a bit uncomfortable. A lot of the more experienced PvPers are not willing to help new players get into the scene without obliging them to a slew of recruitment spam, and turning them away when they want generalized advice rather than an actual faction to join. A sad case, but something that can easily be rectified with some PvPers who are willing to take less experienced players out to Reno or Hinkley and provide advice/tactics without it being necessary to join their particular faction.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Brujah on April 08, 2013, 09:33:18 pm
Yes, gorgon, you caught me again.


My evil plot this time is dragging all newbies from TLL into the evil organization I'm part of, you figured it all out.


Now cease your endless rage towards me.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: BenKain on April 08, 2013, 09:42:35 pm
Well, I wasn't directing this at you in particular, just all of the people with the mindset that you have to be "hardc0re" or "pr0" to PvP, but now that you mention it, you are one of those people.

I would just like to see more people taking an active role in the wasteland, not just paying lip service to the cause.

Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: Brujah on April 08, 2013, 09:46:48 pm
Your endless complaints about Pro hardcore PVPers stopped being funny long ago.


I won't even read them anymore.
Title: Re: The Last Light – Are you new and need some help or advice?
Post by: greenthumb on April 09, 2013, 12:58:03 am
i see you guys have some contradictions. But i would suggest to solve it in PMs. Since this is helping hands thread, you can not help any newcomer not even yourself with your current attitude.

Thank you.