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Title: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Fettel on May 04, 2012, 01:11:43 pm: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/117074-Bethesda-Announces-The-Elder-Scrolls-Online

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/117029-First-Batch-of-Skyrim-DLC-to-Hit-Xbox-This-Summer

whatya thinking lads?
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Gob on May 04, 2012, 03:12:37 pm: Skyrim is shait anyway.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: falloutdude on May 04, 2012, 03:16:05 pm: ..... elder scrolls online. yes when this comes out i will never see any of you again..... or anyone ever again, forever alone in some basement.

Quote from: Gob on May 04, 2012, 03:12:37 pm
Skyrim is shait anyway.
go to jail.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: barter1113 on May 04, 2012, 03:30:29 pm: Lol official TES but there have already been mod Skyrim Online ;D
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Roachor on May 06, 2012, 05:18:41 pm: Can't wait for dlc, my lvl 82 billionaire golden vampire is bored in her mansion.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Michaelh139 on May 06, 2012, 07:01:25 pm: Skyrim is good hack n slash.

But the mmo. It's literally just a WoW clone. Nothing special here.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Lizard on May 06, 2012, 07:46:31 pm: New Vegas is the last thing i bought from Bethesda. And that's just because it's Fallout-related.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Fettel on May 06, 2012, 08:21:34 pm: Quote from: Lizard on May 06, 2012, 07:46:31 pm
New Vegas is the last thing i bought from Bethesda. And that's just because it's Fallout-related.

Yep
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: klax on May 06, 2012, 08:38:45 pm: No, seriously, Skyrim was such a huge disappointment for me. Just repeats of the same shitty dungeon and Draugr after Draugr after Draugr...No mark and recall spells, no levitation, no multi-effect spells, buggy as fuck, uncompletable quests, bugged houses. It held my attention for about 3 weeks (purposely not using one of the numerous exploits available) before the magic wore off.

Still need to go back and complete Broken Steel anyway although I haven't touched the PS3 since I started playing this annoyingly addictive game.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Smeghead on May 11, 2012, 07:28:30 pm: well,it wasn't morrowind,but comparing to oblivion its awesome
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Y0ssarian on May 11, 2012, 11:47:02 pm: How does everyone keep putting 'Banned' in their image upload? I've no clue at image editing.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: klax on May 12, 2012, 12:47:35 am: Quote from: Y0ssarian on May 11, 2012, 11:47:02 pm
How does everyone keep putting 'Banned' in their image upload? I've no clue at image editing.

Well...it was pretty difficult. But I think I've pulled it off.

No need to thank me.

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Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Y0ssarian on May 12, 2012, 05:46:31 am: thx, now I can spend my friday doing other pointless things.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: barter1113 on May 12, 2012, 09:19:12 am: Quote from: Lizard on May 06, 2012, 07:46:31 pm
New Vegas is the last thing i bought from Bethesda. And that's just because it's Fallout-related.

New vegas is from Obsidian game, bethesda was only publisher.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: John.Metzger on July 02, 2012, 05:31:03 am: Quote from: Lizard on May 06, 2012, 07:46:31 pm
New Vegas is the last thing i bought from Bethesda. And that's just because it's Fallout-related.

i did almost the same.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Uftak on July 02, 2012, 09:37:41 am: Morrowind beats Skyrim.
End of the story.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Roachor on July 04, 2012, 10:16:59 pm: I'm going to have to disagree. Morrowind was one of my favourite games of all time, but it was annoying as fuck compared to skyrim. Cliff racers biting your ass as you trek for hours across a red sandstorn looking for the next step in a quest. I had over 200 hours logged before I even got to the main quest because of the directions " find the two rocks by the tree and everything looked like low poly ass. That and only the argonians had the capacity to look cool. My white haired blind old man that has mastered all magic and can transform into a giant tossing villager rape machine is pretty much the most epic thing ever. You should see how awesomely I decorated my keep. Morrowind I had skulls stacked around the frame of my basement apt and took orders from a crackhead skooma bum.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: RavenousRat on July 04, 2012, 10:49:17 pm: Morrowind is nice because of quests, the only reason to install Oblivion (before Skyrim was out) was to download Morroblivion mod later and play Morrowind in Oblivion engine for those who dislike old graphics and want new combat system, there were no other use for Oblivion, as its quests, environment and story line was fail, they would get more success if they just recreated Morrowind updating graphics and making combat more diverse.
As for Skyrim, they tried to make it more interesting by adding repeatable quests (who ever will do it in single player game?) and a lot useless stuff in game that took them days and weeks and may be months to implement, but it getting boring in 1 minute, or even less, a lot stuff that suits multiplayer game, where others can see you doing something and see your progress. But still Skyrim, the same as Oblivion and Morrowind, Fallout 3 and FNV, require plugins/mods to be playable and enjoyable. So it's just raw products for modders to allow them make their own game.
Also if compare all TES, Daggerfall is much better than Morrowind, yes, it has boring quests (like all repeatable Skyrim quests), but character building, as one of the most important things in RPGs, was much better than in Morrowind and obviously Skyrim. Skyrim's character building was buffed by perks and also debuffed by removing stats, poor devs explained it by saying "You just click INT to get more mana, so why don't you just raise your mana instead?", stupid idiots forgot that there are modders who will do it better than they and make it more complicated, so now it will need more work for them to restore attributes back to make character building better, than it is now, but I don't think they ever will do it better than in Daggerfall (btw Daggerfall had some kind of perks too, that you picked at 1st level :D), so they just degraded at Morrowind and now they are returning back, but still they are worse than before, and for character making Daggerfall beats Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. So Morrowind isn't that perfect.

As for Skyrim online - it's good move, because they will use it's name to insta-raise popularity for this MMO and get a lot money, but also they will need to change their team, whole team. Or else they will need to make it not MMO, but some game with "instances and rooms" where people will be able to play it with their friends, and be able mod and do everything themselves, because without modders they will just make raw MMO, and how people can mod MMO? Also it'll have some % that it'll crash after each action or if you'll alt-tab and there will be a lot bugs and other bad stuff... no, they really don't need to make MMOs.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: falloutdude on July 04, 2012, 11:28:17 pm: morrowind is the best because it was not easy. you had to find stuff on your own and the world is hugh and even bigger and more quest if you download tamerial rebuilt mod. morrowind is the best hands down. skyrim is good but compared to morrowind its a big terd in a toilet.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: John.Metzger on July 04, 2012, 11:32:45 pm: i really dislike that pc and xbox got the same shity unbalanced games now... even x box user can´t moding this crap.. bad.. :(
Quote from: RavenousRat on July 04, 2012, 10:49:17 pm
...But still Skyrim, the same as Oblivion and Morrowind, Fallout 3 and FNV, require plugins/mods to be playable and enjoyable. So it's just raw products for modders to allow them make their own game.
thats so true. i have played everyone of those and didnt like modding because i always thought it would disturb the balance and stuff.. but throwing fallout 3 into my trashcan changed my opinion and i modded fallout new vegas as hell. and its a very good game now. after few hardcore mods and level caps
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Roachor on July 05, 2012, 09:14:11 am: Morrowind wasn't hard because it had a shitty map and slow ass travel, hell it wasn't hard period. The best you could do was the boots of blinding speed and that required being an orc and turning up the brightness. You could get the same experience in skyrim by not using quest markers or fast travel or horses. I think its been too many years you only remember the good aspects of the game. Only thing that was really lost is flight spells and custom spells.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Johnnybravo on July 06, 2012, 03:06:31 am: Morrowind was the best, don't you remember the very first exciting moment you wanted to smash that ant-like thing?
Swing, swing, swing, swing - still full health bar, why?
Lol it farted, and now you can't move, why?

But then again, in Oblivion they had a great idea - let's make the game progressively harder depending on how long you play, and not on what you are doing! Didn't get +5 stat? Nvm, your enemies always do!

What about Skyrim? Maybe too simplified? Felt good, but the crafting was done as if it was some kind of MMO game, and same was with those rebellion quests.

NVM though, fans will fix it as always, and the game will play ten times more than any biocrap spew at us.
The one thing is however interesting. That's how original pieces of game are being removed or replaced.
From one POV it'd be that they are going after money so that they want majority of the players understand and play it.
On other hand, from different POV, is not it really only because it never worked, and what is now mainstream was tested by ages and required many to fail just to prove it?
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: 700noob007 on July 06, 2012, 05:58:00 am: Quote from: falloutdude on May 04, 2012, 03:16:05 pm
..... elder scrolls online. yes when this comes out i will never see any of you again..... or anyone ever again, forever alone in some basement.
go to jail.

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwc3i833wu1qcly3i.gif)
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: barter1113 on July 07, 2012, 09:13:20 am: I think if quests from Morrowind are in Skyrim game, that will be the best tes ;D
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Michaelh139 on July 07, 2012, 09:26:24 am: morrowind with all the obvious improvements would be...

MMmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmm... awesome as hell obviously!

But knowing bethesda these days they'd force voice acting in and won't be able to get everyone's lines in, thus, missing quests... missing dialogue... etc.... >:(
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Blazekin on July 07, 2012, 09:31:43 am: Watch in 1080p. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilLBWuwDt6I
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Fettel on July 07, 2012, 10:01:11 am: Looks pretty neat.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Surf on July 07, 2012, 10:15:03 am: While the shaders and general renderer definitely got improved, Morrowind suddenly having lush green meadows everywhere is a fail. The strange barren landscape together with things like those mushrooms or the strangw architecture in the inner lands where a big part of Morrowinds charm. Making the landscape better whilst leaving the character models and their stiff animations untouched makes the game even more uncanny than Bethesdas games already are.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Johnnybravo on July 07, 2012, 01:23:59 pm: I agree, models are just plain bad.
But why'd there not be some green in the swamp? I doubt very much that they removed all those wastelands around. IIRC starting place was kind of swamp, and eastern side of the island was full of steppes. At the time it looked absolutely fantastic.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Surf on July 07, 2012, 02:21:27 pm: Quote from: Johnnybravo on July 07, 2012, 01:23:59 pm
I agree, models are just plain bad.
But why'd there not be some green in the swamp? I doubt very much that they removed all those wastelands around. IIRC starting place was kind of swamp, and eastern side of the island was full of steppes. At the time it looked absolutely fantastic.

Unless they didn't change it back the last time I checked this mod there were green trees and green ye olde standard fantasy grass (like the one in oblivion) everywhere around the freaking island, not just the starting swampy area. :/
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Blazekin on July 07, 2012, 05:29:11 pm: Whaaaat how does that not look a million times better? Morrowind was such an empty game. You guys have never played Morrowind with over 100 types of real life sea creatures, about 100 more animals (chickens, goats, pigs, fox, kitties, puppies), children in every town, airships, actually moving on the silt striders to and from every town, moving in real time on every boat as well? because if not you should really think about it. When you add all this stuff to the Morrowind graphic and sound overhaul it becomes the greatest game I have ever played.

I don't know if anyone cares for F3 or FNV but I almost literally play like it is Oblivion with guns.

f3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Hy1aO7KB4&feature=related

nv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VGXsUqpdFQ&feature=relmfu
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: John.Metzger on July 07, 2012, 06:27:00 pm: lol hurts the storyline alot.. you could add oblivion weapons and play as melee, maybe change textures of enemys..
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: Johnnybravo on July 08, 2012, 12:18:03 am: That looks awesome actually. It all happens so long after the war anyways, so it'd be lovely to see the world being more full of nature.
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: barter1113 on July 09, 2012, 09:15:32 am: New Vegas with mods it is real Fallout and in my opinion it is very good. For me:
Fallout 2, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 1, Fallout Tactics, Fallout 3 (like tactics it is game only in universe), Falkout Brotherhood of Steal for ps2 - never play it.

If you want to have better New Vegas use nexus sites and download mods. I use few but I will find more and mods which make NV similar to orginals.
My mods:
Project Nevada - the main mod which is very good and you must have it.
Reality weather project
Pipboy 2500 - orginal oldschool pipboy, I love it!

I only use it but I must download classic armors, weapons, and maybe revelation interface (yes falloutish) and maybe hardcore mods. I love New Vegas and I hope Bethesda works with Obsidian on the new fallout. Obsidian should work on quests, roleplay, easter eggs etc and Bethesda on mechanic to make it more optimize and better.

Only one thing which I hate in New Vegas is engine and camera, but it is easy modding so...
Title: Re: Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online + DLC to skyrim
Post by: John.Metzger on July 09, 2012, 10:11:53 pm: Quote from: barter1113 on July 09, 2012, 09:15:32 am
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oh you have to check this special hardcore mod from developer Joshua Sawyer. its the best mod so far!
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Josh_Sawyer%27s_Mod (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Josh_Sawyer%27s_Mod) this makes new vegas absolutly fucking realistic. and balancing a few weird things.