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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: Zombie Princess on April 23, 2012, 12:32:08 pm
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I think devs made secret update last days, and they nerfted gatlings crits ( :( ) crits with perk better ciritcal deal no more insta kill 500+, but they are more like gatling with out better critical : 200-250 in range.
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There was no update in the last days.
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Maybe enemies wear Tesla armors?
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I can still do the insta kills that do 400+ at range with gatling laser without better crits but they are not often, I don't think anything changed you just are having some bad crit rolls :P.
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Doing instakill 500+ is nothing to be proud of. It's so unbalanced that a nerf is inevitable
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Yes and no bypass crit for 90 its soo awesome. Its pretty balanced actually
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Well yeah the gatling laser normally does pretty crappy damage (I have seen as low as 20) and if it's a normal crit you probably won't die, only if it's a rare high crit roll then you will see the massive damage. But hey, it's one of the best weapons in the game isn't it?
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You're right. My bad.
But I just got hit with LSW for 350 hp in 100/100 metal armor and mask mkII with man of steel from like 20 hexes
Does that sound overpowered to you?
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It's same like ko last session = death
But man of steel dont give u immunity to powerfull crit dude uh
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It's same like ko last session = death
But man of steel dont give u immunity to powerfull crit dude uh
Yes but he's pointing out instakill critbursts suck. All instakill sucks.
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Big guns need to do a bit more damage at bigger range.
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Uch, I see what update is it
Plasma grenades change damage to 60-120 LOL
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Doing instakill 500+ is nothing to be proud of. It's so unbalanced that a nerf is inevitable
Heh.. no wonder they did something like "Secret update" I would do same too.
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Uch, I see what update is it
Plasma grenades change damage to 60-120 LOL
It's been like that whole session.
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It's been like that whole session.
Still pretty ridiculous nonetheless. Not like they need such damage with SD...
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You're right. My bad.
But I just got hit with LSW for 350 hp in 100/100 metal armor and mask mkII with man of steel from like 20 hexes
Does that sound overpowered to you?
Well, no. By the definition used by the playerbase, Big Guns can't be overpowered. Ever. No matter what.
It's only weapons/tactics that can kill Big Gun Tanks that are overpowered, remember?
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Well, no. By the definition used by the playerbase, Big Guns can't be overpowered. Ever. No matter what.
It's only weapons/tactics that can kill Big Gun Tanks that are overpowered, remember?
Make yourself such BG tank, I can even ask wise men to share some recipes. Then smash, rape and pillage for glory and lulz. It's unstoppable killing machine anyway, isn't it?
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one sentence
2238 logic :)
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It's unstoppable killing machine anyway, isn't it?
Till it's got nerfed.
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Still pretty ridiculous nonetheless. Not like they need such damage with SD...
It only deals big damage on jacket/bluesuit or with SD. Trouble is that even if you can do 3ap throws, the animation delay slows down the damage output. Like it does with fast shotting.
Non-sd sneak grenadiers or non-sneak grenadiers aren't particularly amazing.
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and what will you tell me if i was melted in tesla for 390 crit ?:D i was in fucking tesla and i got melted (180-300) with single grenade.
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and what will you tell me if i was melted in tesla for 390 crit ?:D i was in fucking tesla and i got melted (180-300) with single grenade.
That's a crit and it's common knowledge that crits don't care about what armor you're wearing. Get a bad roll and you're dead.
You can have all anti crit perks and best armor vs incoming dmg type and still receive total fuckover crits.
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Or just shitty build/armor/unluck Nothing more
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That's a crit and it's common knowledge that crits don't care about what armor you're wearing. Get a bad roll and you're dead.
Roll isn't the major factor why critical hits do so much damage with SD , but bypasses. 1 luck equals to 70% chance to be bypassed and of course when you die by a critical hit that's supposed to be a bypass and it is , it just is shown as a normal critical hit in log. In the end it doesn't matter much what roll , if you get bypassed it's GG.
Or just shitty build/armor/unluck Nothing more
Build if you have low luck , armor if you aren't at least wearing MA Mk2 ( 1/4 less damage is at least something ) and to be unlucky is when odds just doesn't favor you depending on the current chance to be bypassed. :)
You can have all anti crit perks and best armor vs incoming dmg type and still receive total fuckover crits.
Incorrect , 10 luck - 0% chance to be bypassed from shots in torso , that includes SD too. ( Solar provided chart )
8-10 luck CA with at least 150+ HP and you pretty much survive each critical SD plasma nade hit , with tesla and same amount of luck you can't be taken down even with 3 grenades.
So a plasma tank build with 10 luck , 250+hp and CA is just a hard counter for them.
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About the secret update, maybe it happened , for example they fixed the glow exploit (Multiplicates avengers etc when lag).
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There was no update in the last days.
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About the secret update, maybe it happened , for example they fixed the glow exploit (Multiplicates avengers etc when lag).
There is no point or sense in any kind of "secret updates" - if you sacrifice few seconds to think about it. Stuff got fixed all the time and it *may* happen that some very minor things aren't mentioned... Things like crit table changes aren't minor. Changes in that area are always in log, i see this thread as nothing more than "OMG i've been keeled/OMG me cannot keel in one click!1"
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sd + spray and pray = automatic ignoring of armour crit mods, don't need a real bypass
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Spray and pray ignores only critical chance modifier , ignores the amount of critical chance the armor decreases for you. It has nothing to do with bypasses or roll.
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Spray and pray ignores only critical chance modifier , ignores the amount of critical chance the armor decreases for you. It has nothing to do with bypasses or roll.
says crit modifiers, armour modifies chance to crit and crit table roll. It's vaguely worded you have any proof it doesn't remove the armour crit roll reduction?