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Title: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: Who Killed Bambi on April 14, 2012, 07:54:18 pm
I want to make one of these so:
sg sniper:
3str+wh
9pe+sharpshooter
4end- no lifegiver           or 8 pe 5 en, no idea, never played by snipers in fonline
1ch
8in
10ag
6luck

wh at 3 lvl
at 6 lvl criticals
9 12 15 brd
18 criticals
21 even more criticals
24 brof

i wonder about brd for sniper, is it even usefull

also maybe right between the eyes and 2 action boys instead of 3 brd

correct me if i m wrong
build is just for rt/tb hunting, no pvp

rocket build
no idea, i just want demo expert working and explosive rockets. help please.

ew - sniper or fast shot? i think fast shot +brof+2 action boy+jet+buffout+nuca for hunt some vc/hub, but did armor dissapear after death from laser ?

also no idea what build and what perks to tag
tb build.
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: Dark Angel on April 14, 2012, 08:24:31 pm
brd is ONLY usefull for Avengers, not for snipers.
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: falloutdude on April 14, 2012, 08:25:37 pm
triple is ghey.

Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: Zloj_Varg on April 14, 2012, 08:56:19 pm
Sniper with 6 luck it's Bad sniper
Sniper with BRD it's bad sniper.
Why 8 intelligence? 4-6 it is a maximum (depends on an indispensability fa-doc \outdoor)
For pve TB I think to you will be enough 7 PE + cig+sharpshooter

http://clip2net.com/s/1Ognq
+ cig and nuka.
It is possible to take Chem. Reliant instead of Finesse.
Last perk it's Second Lifegiver or RBtE (Maybe for mobs it not so is important. I don't know).
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: Jackiepaipai on April 14, 2012, 09:00:59 pm
Why 6lk sniper would be shitty ?
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: falloutdude on April 14, 2012, 09:05:10 pm
Why 6lk sniper would be shitty ?

chance to crit with 6 lk is only 56 with 10lk it is 70. that is ever big difference.
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: Zloj_Varg on April 14, 2012, 09:19:15 pm
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Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: Zloj_Varg on April 14, 2012, 09:19:39 pm
http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=4503 rl  What is it?

BG with 10 PE, with Toughness, Sharpshooter.. but without Stonewall and Fastreload... it's bad, very bad. Fast Shot? you crazy, it's not working :P
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: falloutdude on April 14, 2012, 09:30:18 pm
http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=4503 rl  What is it?

BG with 10 PE, with Toughness, Sharpshooter.. but without Stonewall and Fastreload... it's bad, very bad. Fast Shot? you crazy, it's not working :P
no one takes stonelol. so i toke bonehead instead it acutally does something unlike stonelol. fast shot because with 10pe and sharp you can get alot with ew sg and even bg close to mid range. fast reload is really useless.  its not worth the  perk. you can just shoot move away for a sec and come back.
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: Zloj_Varg on April 14, 2012, 09:45:42 pm
no one takes stonelol.
And it very well is appreciable in PvP =). 40 extra HP will not help as a Stonewall
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: Who Killed Bambi on April 14, 2012, 10:05:18 pm
i cant run nitue at ie8, and cant install other browsers :D
also at ie9 as i remember nitue isnt working too.
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: FrankenStone on April 14, 2012, 10:40:32 pm
dont take falloutdudes sniper build its useless trust me i pm u a good build if u will
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: T-888 on April 14, 2012, 10:43:40 pm
no one takes stonelol. so i toke bonehead instead it acutally does something unlike stonelol. fast shot because with 10pe and sharp you can get alot with ew sg and even bg close to mid range. fast reload is really useless.  its not worth the  perk. you can just shoot move away for a sec and come back.

I guess most of your faction members and friends so called allies make such builds , no wonder you have such a high chance of failure in actual combat situations , when i go up against such builds , i know that i have nothing to worry about. Seriously , it's shit and before you start annoying me here's some information to digest.

Stonewall is much more efficient than ever. The reason why , it's because with bonehead , 10 endurance , combat helmet bonus and stonewall you will never suffer from knockdowns and knockouts , i mean literally 0% chance (tested and confirmed). It makes you highly reliable against snipers unless someone directs a shot in groin , something that 40 HP cannot provide and from my experience highly recommended.

Indeed , fast reload on normal burster builds is quite useless. Then again that perk is highly efficient on builds that use double RL , have 12 AP and bonus rate of fire. Allowing you to reload both rocket launchers with only 2 action points instead of 6 , doesn't sound much at first but when your shooting multiple times and reloading , those action points add up over time and the more you shoot the efficient the perk in the end becomes. Just an example you shoot 3 times from both RL and reloaded in the end , in comparison with not having fast reload you just lost 12 AP , lost a lot of time taking cover accumulating those extra AP that could have been used much faster allowing you to shoot two more times from both launchers and commit to the fight much faster thus increasing your teams chances of success. Cannot be more precise than this.

Each and every single build with 1 luck that supposed to be used for combat is obsolete. With 1 luck taking that you already got critically hit in the eyes , there's 60% chance to be bypassed , in comparison with 5 luck it's like 31% , same thing is when you get hit in head the chance to be bypassed is roughly cut in half. More than 5 luck doesn't change anything , it's just how it is( only concerning aimed shots , torso shots have different critical hit tables and stuff ). Oh yes , with 1 luck those nasty SD sneaker builds have 70% chance to bypass you when throwing plasma nades at you. Talking about SD , 10 luck ensures 0% percent chance to be bypasses from untargetted critical shots ( those who are not aimed , torso shots ). Do i really need to explain why that is important ?

Perception , no matter what build your using and what weapon , you can't really effectively utilize more than 3 hexes that exceed your weapons maximum range. This stat of course gives good map awareness , but that's not a good reason to pump it to maximum , that's why we have builds called snipers that need that perception whether they like it or not and it's their job to inform the whole team about surroundings. Each build has it's own role , utilize those roles accordingly.

fast shot because with 10pe and sharp you can get alot with ew sg and even bg close to mid range.

I can load avenger with 10 pe because a lot and mid close range no matter ew for sg along fast shot. Did you understand me ? I certainly didn't understand you.

Hey but ... who will listen to me anyway ? I'm the arrogant bitch that don't know shit , new player of fonline and what not ;D So even after all said above , i'm quite sure nobody will change their mind will keep making useless meat shields.
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: falloutdude on April 14, 2012, 10:51:25 pm
here make you all happy and remove all links. really you guys take this game 2 fucking serious i offerd builds based on what i use. i dont use pure pvp builds because thats not my way of playing. am not hurrr durrr pvp ape like well like triple who thinks he is god like because he team wins with 20 alts over wm and millita.
also triple have any real proof besides you saying that lk lowers chance of bypass? seems like your talking more shit.
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: T-888 on April 14, 2012, 11:08:17 pm
here make you all happy and remove all links. really you guys take this game 2 fucking serious i offerd builds based on what i use. i dont use pure pvp builds because thats not my way of playing. am not hurrr durrr pvp ape like well like triple who thinks he is god like because he team wins with 20 alts over wm and millita.

Goody , i think i should make some lists in what names i'm called , now it's god. ;D

Oh sure , very serious. Basically everything that is just common sense , if you just think a little bit and play this game that stuff should come with time and experience , for me it does. What you shown is a common PvP build , the only difference is that it just sucks and that's all , in this case it's not much about playstyle because a build like that has only one purpose like any other build for combat.

also triple have any real proof besides you saying that lk lowers chance of bypass? seems like your talking more shit.

;D , you know what i pulled that out from my imagination , to sound cool. If talking seriously then Solar said all that himself , as well i have done multiple tests and confirmed that myself for my own reasons.

Oh by the way for bambi , http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,22634.msg187750.html#msg187750
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: Who Killed Bambi on April 15, 2012, 12:06:49 pm
can i use finesse for sniper ? i mean can it increase his criticals and not reduce eye crits.
or no crit gonna be like 20-40 dmg ?


(http://42.imagebam.com/download/nfOraxKBv-RlvpPn-SWYOA/18504/185034890/123.jpg)
6 str required for stonewall, no good :D
also here is demo expert. hope it works :D
rocket build
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: FrankenStone on April 15, 2012, 07:06:25 pm
Use Finesse Only For Cripplers , eitherway dont use a sniper rifle for a crippler its always better to go with a 223 or 14mm pistol u can also go with a mauser theorerically . only purpose is crippling ^^ on sniper build finesse add +30% dmg Resistance , i dont know how it exactly works but ive tested that u do not so great dmg with finesse ...
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: AdolphbinStalin on April 16, 2012, 10:10:24 am
Simply put damage res (DR), is % of damage soaked up. And is applied after damage threshold (DT). Example, 100 damage (@30%), now becomes 70.

With that said, I'd advise the OP to wait with leveling snipers. New update that is supppsed to come anytime now is supposed to rework finesse so that the DR is ignored upon successful critical hit. This will make finesse a must on all snipers.

/regards
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: Chrupek on April 16, 2012, 01:12:44 pm
...

Every bypass, ignores targets DR, so its always 0% with bypass. In that case finesse isnt so bad for sniper. Important is, what char youre aiming, because low luck chars, could suffer for bypasses.
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: maciek83 on April 16, 2012, 05:17:12 pm
 new update will make it so ALL criticals will ignore this +30%dr from fineese, not only bypasses
Title: Re: SG sniper, EW sniper, BG rocket builds please
Post by: Mr. Dalas on January 26, 2013, 05:04:22 pm
2 t-888
and what can you tell me about Man of Steel? Ever checked this shut?