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Title: Bursting
Post by: BrunoAnso on March 02, 2010, 10:33:55 pm
i've been wondering what the mechanic is for computing damage from burst fire vs. normal. is it normal damage X number of rounds in burst over a cone or what?
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: Raegann on March 02, 2010, 10:38:22 pm
I think it's normal, just like you've got hit with x single shots in one moment.
F.e. bursting with 10mm smg is like shooting 10 single shots (if not talking about some of the shots can miss or hit another target, that's another problem).
PS: Anyway I don't know if it is 10*computed value or computed value 1+computed value 2+ (..) computed value 10.
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: BrunoAnso on March 02, 2010, 10:39:59 pm
thought so, rad.
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: Roachor on March 02, 2010, 10:42:06 pm
I'm pretty sure each bullet has its own chance to crit though.
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: BrunoAnso on March 02, 2010, 10:43:13 pm
really? because that would make crit chance bizzarely high, i think that its just increased, not multiplied by number of rounds.
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: Attero on March 02, 2010, 11:01:56 pm
when first bullet hits target there is roll for whatever its crit , if so the nall dam is crit multiplied
also ifmultiple targets hit in one brst every target gets its own roll for being crited
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: Tyler on March 02, 2010, 11:03:10 pm
I'm pretty sure each round has it's own damage because if you take the bonus ranged damage perk the +2 damage it adds is to each individual bullet.If you score a crit with a burst from a p90 (12 rounds ) it can hit for over 400 points of damage so im pretty sure they each have their own crit chance also.I'm not very good with all these exact formulas alot of you use but it seems to make sense to me this way.
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: BrunoAnso on March 02, 2010, 11:04:31 pm
@attero
thats more or less what i thought, im just comtemplating creating a burster.
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: Attero on March 02, 2010, 11:32:36 pm
@attero
thats more or less what i thought, im just comtemplating creating a burster.

you mean SG burst? weapons too weak , even for pve i say sniper does better.
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: UbiValkin on March 03, 2010, 12:51:08 pm
you mean SG burst? weapons too weak , even for pve i say sniper does better.


Offtopic: Yeah, need to make double pistols/smg style in game for SG-fast shoters!!!

Why not? I mean, if you have 10 AGI+2 Action Boys and fast shot you getting three P90C bursts per turn (if you have P90Cs in each hand, so you don't need to reload at same turn). With sniper build, but with fast shot, and 1 less STR, 'cause you don't need 5, you can do mass crits with bursts! But 10mm bullets sux...
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2010, 01:24:52 pm
SG Bursting weak? madness.
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: Attero on March 03, 2010, 01:26:55 pm
SG Bursting weak? madness.
when compared to BG ? ofc
and at range aimed shots are better too
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: Roachor on March 08, 2010, 09:05:17 pm
wait till after wipe when you get hit by 4 p903 burst in a row
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: Attero on March 08, 2010, 09:15:45 pm
wait till after wipe when you get hit by 4 p903 burst in a row
and reload ? or you making fast shot + BroF one that would be possible then (understanding in row as "in oen round") but still majority of pvp is RT and in RT big shots count
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: Gatling on March 09, 2010, 12:26:25 am
Beyond one hex range, a burst turns into a 3-hex wide cone, with the target in the center.  So with any burst weapon, once its beyond that one hex, is impossible to my knowledge to hit with every single bullet per burst because of that Spread. 

Note 2- Dual-wielding P90s in RT isn't really that special.  Probably due to the fact you have to a) wait for the change weapon animation, and b) wait for the APs, and even if you have high enough for that, reason A still stands.

Fighting that way in RT is highly... inefficient, but that is my personal opinion on it, though I am an extensive SG-burster user so I hope that counts for something. :/
Title: Re: Bursting
Post by: Lil Jesus on March 09, 2010, 12:37:30 am
Offtopic: Yeah, need to make double pistols/smg style in game for SG-fast shoters!!!

Why not? I mean, if you have 10 AGI+2 Action Boys and fast shot you getting three P90C bursts per turn (if you have P90Cs in each hand, so you don't need to reload at same turn). With sniper build, but with fast shot, and 1 less STR, 'cause you don't need 5, you can do mass crits with bursts! But 10mm bullets sux...

hehe, 3d models of players, allows to make new gun models/animations etc ;)