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Title: Situation on 2238
Post by: Oliver on February 19, 2012, 08:04:23 am
What is current political situation achieved on this moment ?

How i know now we have few alliances and separated big factions :

I. At first this is TTTLA+C88+one german faction+VSB alliance. But how i see VSB try play most time by their own power.

II. This is SOT and Fists. Thay havent real alliance, but some players from this factions have good relations; SOT try dont touch Fists and dont go in places, that Fists want control.

III. The New Legion. I really dont know much about this union. I heard that this is BHH+Grim's faction+ARWH+DOC SPAD with friends+Hawks+Toxic Avengers+... Is it still alive ? Becoase i saw them in big ammount in Klamath one time, but after in Modoc in Klamath came only DOC SPADs+Grim's faction.

IV. Hawks. Had not meet with them at last time often. May be they play with The New Legion in BH...

V. Amboy Dukes. = North Alliance ? They have not big online and only one small USA's faction in ally, but took Gecko. Good. In any case this faction was almost dead long time; I glad that they came back like VSB.

VI. Sarmatians (TSAR). This is old faction, but without many members... and thay have not high experience in TC in compare with SOT. Therefor SOT dont let them hold Den long time. Have thay allies ? Dont know.

VII. Chousen Soldiers. Very old and professional faction, but now thay have "decay time"; may be it connected with their online, but i didnt saw no one CS in towns. We will see on their activity. Will be good if they will have enough power for opposition against TTTLA and SOT.

VIII. AF. Alliance Francofone. Ridicilous coalition. Dont know about them anything. We saw them often in Klamath. 4-9 fighters. But i guess that they have many new players or players who didnt played much in TC. Thay have enough wish for TC and dont stop their attempts, but Fists win at them all time.

IX. Section 8, Grim Reapers, Outcasts, Generic 13 and similar factions... We didnt detected them. May they all in New Reno.

This is my wiev and estimate. Who have additional information ?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Cheesey Dean on February 19, 2012, 08:09:38 am
About Sarmations, the faction I'm in called ARWH (Anti-Russian Wasteland Heroes) is allied with them, Toxic Avengers, and a few others. We're currently hostile to SoT.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Oliver on February 19, 2012, 08:19:36 am
About Sarmations, the faction I'm in called ARWH (Anti-Russian Wasteland Heroes) is allied with them, Toxic Avengers, and a few others. We're currently hostile to SoT.

Can you give full info ? Nations, prefer towns and places, all allies.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Cheesey Dean on February 19, 2012, 08:24:57 am
Can you give full info ? Nations, prefer towns and places, all allies.
I don't know every faction we're allied with currently, just that we're for sure allied with TSAR and Toxic Avengers. They're our main allies. Lately we've been trying to take Broken Hills from SoT.

If you want to know more about us, you could probably PM Reconite or Imrinfected with your questions
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Oliver on February 19, 2012, 09:07:47 am
I don't know every faction we're allied with currently, just that we're for sure allied with TSAR and Toxic Avengers. They're our main allies. Lately we've been trying to take Broken Hills from SoT.

If you want to know more about us, you could probably PM Reconite or Imrinfected with your questions.

May be at first you help to Sarmatians in DEN. :)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on February 19, 2012, 10:45:19 am
Grim's faction and Toxic Avengers is the same thing.

The New Legion I guess is name of our alliance we wanted to try take towns under 1 faction but doesn't work because HAWK's and TSAR already have towns with their base and have influence points so its difficult to combine everybody in 1 faction.

As of right now a lot of people in toxic avengers and BHH don't play so the remaining numbers play with hawks and tsar. Grim Reapers a lot of them aren't playing so there is a few from their faction as well.

I hear VSB children of atom are allied but rarely see any tttla with them. Fist got base raped so they are not active and rebuilding from what I hear.

I think Amboys and outcasts are allied with north alliance name but mostly see amboys when they show up.

Chosen Soldiers are active I see them once in while but they usually attack and run away.

AF (I still do not know what this stands for) are allied with section 8.

All I know really about the PvP factions. Then there is small PvE crafting factions.
But for the most part The Majority of people in Toxic Avengers aka Grim's faction formally known as Reese's gang or the Void XD freelance with BHH TSAR and HAWKS. We got bored of toilet control so we mainly fight and help other factions with the remaining of us in toxic avengers.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Oliver on February 19, 2012, 10:56:27 am
Toxic Avengers + BHH + Sarmatians(TSAR) + Hawks + Grim Reapers + DOC SPAD with random americans.

Is it right ? How name it ?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: maszrum on February 19, 2012, 11:10:16 am
what about numbers? im currently inactive, will be nice to know what is going on here :>
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on February 19, 2012, 11:16:27 am
About right, but trust me it isn't as big as it sounds. The random Americans is the toxic avengers. Mostly stragglers from dying pvp gangs from last wipe.

The New TC system sucks for fast paced action most of the people from these factions join up for some PvP action. But TSAR and HAWKS have towns in their name we just help them defend it for pvp action in Toxic Avengers. Can only speak for on that behalf.

I think the TC system, lack of PvP and game's bull shit drove a lot of people to quit. Nobody has fun trolling in town for over 9,000 hours to take a town. Whole other issue but I know a lot of people quit in my gang because of that or they rage quit because of other reasons.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: avv on February 19, 2012, 11:28:17 am
Children of Atom which consists of c88 and tttla are ofcourse swarm as always.

Toxic Avengers + BHH + Sarmatians(TSAR) + Hawks + Grim Reapers + DOC SPAD with random americans.

Is it right ? How name it ?

Yeah how are we gonna call this?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on February 19, 2012, 11:38:57 am
Children of Atom which consists of c88 and tttla are ofcourse swarm as always.

Yeah how are we gonna call this?


The New Legion just won't be taking towns with name because nobody wants to leave bases and toilet control for weeks so we just help defend towns that allies already have for PvP action. Or we go on offensive if there is a PvP fight to be found :)

I don't even see children of atom anywhere recently expect maybe 2-3 of you guys with vsb.

Well it's good to hear you guys are still around and good to know c88 well never split from tttla.

As for fists and sot I have not heard that they are allied and never seen the two together.

For most part Hawks and TSAR and when we guard these towns with them we are anti-pk unless somebody walks in from an enemy faction or is there to PK. The main common thing with this alliance is we like friendly role play projects and think when there is no PvP there should be towns to hang around and chat in safely outside of NCR.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: manero on February 19, 2012, 12:05:41 pm
As i noticed there are 3 swarms(more than 15 players on action ;) ):

The Hawks/TSAR/some guys with AF tag before nicknames(dunno who is that)
SoT/Amboys, i bet there will be also The Fists in near future
CS/C88/TTTLA/VSB

It's really pity that solo gangs, like The Mad Horsemans or even Grim Rippers don't play this season. It is possible to play pvp without any allies so don't talk bullshit that it is not. It's more frustrating and requiring but still funny.

For example Modoc, very cool fights against VSB every day(low tech and high tech). They protect this town without allies which is cool. The same situation in Gecko, nice fights against Amboys.

Btw. i would really like to see 'VSB attitude' in other towns. No militia, just gang members, standing and guarding controled town. This is how control should looks like. Not hiding behind militia, mutants army, wm camping or other pussies/pro tactics.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: pti4ka on February 19, 2012, 12:44:22 pm
Important point:

ARWH+BHH sounds epic  ;D
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: duorden on February 19, 2012, 12:56:44 pm
Important point:

ARWH+BHH sounds epic  ;D

CHICK-CHIRIK
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Kelin on February 19, 2012, 01:29:18 pm
Btw. i would really like to see 'VSB attitude' in other towns. No militia, just gang members, standing and guarding controled town.
Standing and guarding a town hmm... Man, this needs people. Only gangs with 8+ active players can do that (without militia). Otherwise it's much better to do other in-game stuff like leveling, farming, crafting etc. You should try this "attitude" once and then encourage people (especially small gangs) to do it. Nevertheless I know how extremelly entertaining attacking players standing in town is (when you just log in, find a town full of players, ambush them, bang! instant fun - sadly not for players inside who have to stay there for hours and be suddenly killed).
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: manero on February 19, 2012, 01:49:26 pm
Standing and guarding a town hmm... Man, this needs people. Only gangs with 8+ active players can do that (without militia). Otherwise it's much better to do other in-game stuff like leveling, farming, crafting etc.

From my point of view there are 2 types of gangs, controllers(TTTLA,VSB,TSAR,BHH) and attackers(CS,SoT, for example BBS). Let controllers control and let attackers attack. If you don't have enough people to control town, why u bother about controling? If u don't find fun in control why u bother about controling? For lockbox reward? If you are good attacker you can take your reward from defenders. It's better for server if VSB got Modoc, TTTLA or TSAR got Redding, BHH got Broken Hills, because everywhere attacker go, he can attack. If other gangs control these towns, these towns are empty. Empty = no attack = no fun.

You should try this "attitude" once and then encourage people (especially small gangs) to do it.

I encourage small gangs to attack, not control.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Kelin on February 19, 2012, 01:57:47 pm
Ok, now I see your point.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: John Porno on February 19, 2012, 02:14:02 pm
as for crazy88 we are mostly waiting for a tc fix. until then we will only do some action here and there every once in a while.

I think that the same thing might apply to tttla as well, to a lesser extent.

In any case, a lot ot peopel are lacking motivation now, so as soon as tc is fixed, the gangs constellation will change. I really appreciate this kind of thread though, could be nice to have some like this stickied to make it official, if all gangs agree.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Dark Angel on February 19, 2012, 04:05:54 pm
Yeah, we wait for TC fix too. For now we can only fighting for Klamath, because nobody from those factions have big influence there.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hololasima on February 19, 2012, 06:26:20 pm
I like to see that this topic didnt turn to rage war.


But what you said Oliver is true.

As for VSB: We trying to have fun in Modoc, sometimes need help from TTLA+C88(but mostly only when we try to TAKE that town) And of course, you can count TTLA and C88 as allies of us.

Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Oliver on February 19, 2012, 06:29:06 pm
As i noticed there are 3 swarms(more than 15 players on action ;) ):

The Hawks/TSAR/some guys with AF tag before nicknames(dunno who is that)
SoT/Amboys, i bet there will be also The Fists in near future
CS/C88/TTTLA/VSB


Amboys said that they are not in alliance with SOT. And why you think, that AF play with Hawks and TSAR ?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hovinko on February 19, 2012, 06:51:22 pm
(http://www.upnito.sk/0/p7egjyeqz4548kf2bvwbgmu7cf5fygwc.jpg)

AF + Hawks
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Dark Angel on February 19, 2012, 07:04:48 pm
Amboys said that they are not in alliance with SOT. And why you think, that AF play with Hawks and TSAR ?

They just neutral with them.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: manero on February 19, 2012, 07:12:15 pm
Amboys said that they are not in alliance with SOT.

I don't care what they said. I know what i saw. Yestarday and today.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Oliver on February 19, 2012, 08:00:11 pm
Then i want comments from Hawks. Similar that all Wasteland is in alliance with Hawks.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Fewer on February 19, 2012, 08:15:25 pm
Well Hawks only want to "survive" and enjoy PVP. But it´s hard these days, when there is such a swarm.
And you should write there new alliances- VSB+TTTLA+C88+CS and SOT+Amboys
PS:I hope nobody from these factions will write about how cool would it be if there were only small factions as it was in the past!
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hololasima on February 19, 2012, 08:21:17 pm
Thats just not truth. Mostly we fight as only gangs and its 50:50. And by the way, you have your friends too so why you complain?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hovinko on February 19, 2012, 08:26:15 pm
From my point of view, i think there are two different PvP situations.

PvP for town defending/capturing and PvP for fun.

Swarms can be seen only in actions where TOWN capture or defend is the point.

But there are also a lot of small fight opportunities.

Personally i dont see a point, in swarming 5 guys in some town with 15 - 20 People.
Why we should ask our allies for help, if we think, we can handle it alone ? Even fight is fun, 5 vs 20 isnt fun.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Fewer on February 19, 2012, 08:50:53 pm
What isn´t truth?
Hawks enjoy PVP.
It is hard, when we hawks and few factions can get about 15 people max but that isnt for you problem (TTTLA,VSB,C88 and CS)
http://s1.pokazywarka.pl/i/921732/303957/screen-17-02-2012-21-57-45.jpg
You dont co-op with CS only for TC 

Yeah and do you know how ends little action in Gecko? We destroy amboys and then come SOT with about 19 people with 2 gauss snipers.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Sarakin on February 19, 2012, 08:57:12 pm
Any gang was welcome to defend the town, not only CS. We allowed every gang members inside as long they are not going to distrupt our activity.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hovinko on February 19, 2012, 08:58:36 pm
http://s1.pokazywarka.pl/i/921732/303957/screen-17-02-2012-21-57-45.jpg
You dont co-op with CS only for TC 

Sorry, maybe im stupid and misunderstand you.

I said, that swarm can be seen only in TC. Tc is when someone wants to capture city.

Vsb wanted to capture a city, gain influence. And for that, they used swarm and help from other gangs.
That screen is only a proof of that.

Aaaaand yes, Vsb were gaining influence even with some cs in the town.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hololasima on February 19, 2012, 09:03:38 pm

Aaaaand yes, Vsb were gaining influence even with some cs in the town.

Even with some TTLAs and some randoms.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Fewer on February 19, 2012, 09:08:53 pm
Well i hope you will have a long relationship with PKs.But its sad that hawks started to be hated when we had little fun in reno with PKs.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hovinko on February 19, 2012, 09:27:55 pm
Sorry i cant hold myself :/

(http://www.upnito.sk/imgresize.php?id=61d3e09f14e60f5471f58253e6fa2851&ms=728)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: John Porno on February 19, 2012, 09:31:28 pm
And you should write there new alliances- VSB+TTTLA+C88+CS and SOT+Amboys
for the record, not with c88 in the picture. If there are CS joining CoA actions, all c88 will leave the town immediately.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Marko on February 19, 2012, 10:13:59 pm
Generic Name 13 was mentioned in the opening post so here's an update...

GN13 is alive and in-game, though with fewer players this season. Some of our members are very busy in RL, and we have no recruiting budget atm. GN13 is home to some private mini-factions and those are all still building in start-up mode.

History: GN13 teamed up with Outcasts last year (both APK factions) and that went well. This year Outcasts allied with Amboy Dukes (PK) so GN13 is working with Crazy88 now. We maintain contact with our friends in Outcasts and there is no formal hostility between us, but GN13 does reserve the right to rib them about their political choices.  ::)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Caled on February 20, 2012, 12:37:14 am

Amboys said that they are not in alliance with SOT.

I don't care what they said. I know what i saw. Yestarday and today.

You probably saw this:
http://video.star-killer.net/random/SOT_wtf.ogv (http://video.star-killer.net/random/SOT_wtf.ogv)

The traduction from french is something along:
"there is guys behind us"
"its SOT"
[awkward silence]
"don't shoot them"
....
"we swamed them"
"well it wasn't the plan..."

We didn't plan this, we just both entered to backstab a BBS/hawks fight at the same time.
My main char didn't have a single one green tagged, because I never crossed them directly before.
We don't play together we just play at the same place and are neutral to each other.

Anyway, about this topic:
Amboys are playing with Outcasts. We took Gecko saturday morning and the town went crazy battleground all weekend and we lost it to Hawks again.
The only big alliance we saw there was CS+VSB, and Hawks with all sort of people.
We also saw many fight with BBS, CS and hawks in their own factions, 8 people max. It was fun with sometimes 4 factions involved. You can call that small scale PvP even if half the PvP factions was inside town  ;D

We hope it stays that way.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Wind_Drift on February 20, 2012, 04:32:40 am
AF (I still do not know what this stands for) are allied with section 8.

According to the OP, it stands for Alliance Francofone.  If this is true, I learned it here.

 ;D

I can't say for sure though, I think only one of us speaks a little French.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Snehulak on February 20, 2012, 06:43:04 am
I don't care what they said. I know what i saw. Yestarday and today.


You probably saw this:
http://video.star-killer.net/random/SOT_wtf.ogv (http://video.star-killer.net/random/SOT_wtf.ogv)

The traduction from french is something along:
"there is guys behind us"
"its SOT"
[awkward silence]
"don't shoot them"
....
"we swamed them"
"well it wasn't the plan..."

We didn't plan this, we just both entered to backstab a BBS/hawks fight at the same time.
My main char didn't have a single one green tagged, because I never crossed them directly before. We don't play together we just play at the same place and are neutral to each other.
...

You guys swarmed everybody when you lose, the situation appeared many times, even when you were alone and lost, then came SoT immediately. Dont say that you did not plan it.

I agree, fights for own faction with 8 people in the team were cool.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Frenchy on February 20, 2012, 08:15:47 am
Perso, I stopped/bored of TCing because TSARs stopped this Redding RP.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Andr3aZ on February 20, 2012, 11:13:36 am
I. At first this is TTTLA+C88+one german faction+VSB alliance. But how i see VSB try play most time by their own power.

it's german/finnish, perkele!
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Iceman on February 20, 2012, 01:00:46 pm
What is current political situation achieved on this moment ?
About BHH. We are russian gang from beginning. We have 75% russians in our gang. We are not ARWH and dont want to kill every russian, because we are russians. We just help guys to kick SoT from this server. Becouse we need BH for roleplay. So we help Legion+Hawks+BBS+Grim+....everyone, who wants kill SoT member and piss on his face :-* or to help us in BH. And we have nonPvP aliance with another rus org - "Fly". But who cares about RP noPvP org here?? 
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: pti4ka on February 20, 2012, 01:05:57 pm
So we help Legion+Hawks+BBS+Grim+..AWRH(Anti-Russian-Wasteland-Heroes)..everyone, who wants kill SoT member and piss on his face :-* or to help us in BH.
+
Some small fix.

"Of course" Hawks and BBS want to help BHH in BH.  :D

And anyway AWRH is the best ally for 75%Russian faction  :D
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Iceman on February 20, 2012, 01:16:23 pm
Can someone of AWRH(Anti-Russian-Wasteland-Heroes) represent his gang? I try to find this words in forum seach but soon recognize, that its exists only in ptichka`s imagination. Yes Hawks help us in BH. Yes we help them in Gecko and Modoc and other towns. Only TC and RP sheet. Nothing more. It was in ex session too. Im with pleasure remember our fight against TTTLA in Redding (25Panzers+8Hawks vs ~25 TTTLA) and Panzers alliance. And our caravan trips with Lenny and other guys. It was fun, i proud of that times.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: manero on February 20, 2012, 01:22:01 pm
We don't need any ally, especially for purpose like that:

...who wants kill *put random gang name* and piss on his face :-*...

I used to use toilet  ;)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: pti4ka on February 20, 2012, 01:29:39 pm
Can someone of AWRH(Anti-Russian-Wasteland-Heroes) represent his gang? I try to find this words in forum seach but soon recognize, that its exists only in ptichka`s imagination.

1) "About Sarmations, the faction I'm in called ARWH (Anti-Russian Wasteland Heroes) is allied with them, Toxic Avengers, and a few others. We're currently hostile to SoT." ------>
2) BHH playing with Sarmatians time ti time. (ps. you are just "few others"  :D)

===> It's not my imaginations, it's true. So that's all what i told about.

But don't worry: world policy know more curious allyes when something begin to be very painfull  ;)

I just describe this situation  :)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Iceman on February 20, 2012, 01:42:16 pm
1) "About Sarmations, the faction I'm in called ARWH (Anti-Russian Wasteland Heroes) is allied with them, Toxic Avengers, and a few others. We're currently hostile to SoT." ------>
2) BHH playing with Sarmatians time ti time. (ps. you are just "few others"  :D)
===> It's not my imaginations, it's true. So that's all what i told about.
We call this OGS - one girl says.....
One guy say too another guy, that he is ARWH, and means, that all russians are SoT. Read this post twice please, befor you proceed. Its or stupid or trolling. Or show me the leader of this allianse. Or maybe leader of Hawks, Sarmatians or other gangs, who might be in this alliance. He must say: Yes! Im in ARWH alliance, russins are noobs. I want to hear it not from neewbie but from real trusted man.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: pti4ka on February 20, 2012, 02:09:11 pm
We call this OGS - one girl says.....
One guy say too another guy, that he is ARWH, and means, that all russians are SoT. Read this post twice please, befor you proceed. Its or stupid or trolling. Or show me the leader of this allianse. Or maybe leader of Hawks, Sarmatians or other gangs, who might be in this alliance. He must say: Yes! Im in ARWH alliance, russins are noobs. I want to hear it not from neewbie but from real trusted man.

"One guy say" is enough for me if we talking about 5-player gangs. Cause I don't need to waste time on some 1-player-noobs-gangs to find their leaders and ask him something.
That point that you start hating me juts confirm my words...

Thats all what I told about AWRH ally cause next it will seen like forum-war.

Don't worry, I like you all  ;)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Termap on February 20, 2012, 02:16:30 pm
We call this OGS - one girl says.....
One guy say too another guy, that he is ARWH, and means, that all russians are SoT. Read this post twice please, befor you proceed. Its or stupid or trolling. Or show me the leader of this allianse. Or maybe leader of Hawks, Sarmatians or other gangs, who might be in this alliance. He must say: Yes! Im in ARWH alliance, russins are noobs. I want to hear it not from neewbie but from real trusted man.

Sorry guys,  But once I had a chance to get with you on TC and I must say it was total chaos, I do not say that you noobs or something like that, you are not really, but you dont have enough experience in the fight. Maybe good PvPers such as Hawks and BBS will be good support for you and we will have a new strong side or conversely you will slow them. Nothing personal, but in these days you have much less people in your alliance compared with TTTLA allience (largest) or SoT.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Kilgore on February 20, 2012, 03:09:42 pm
Yawn.. BBS is not in any alliance and is not planning to be in any alliance and since few weeks it rejects any request for an alliance. I hope it makes some things clear.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hects Hakal on February 20, 2012, 03:36:39 pm
As far as i know we are In alliance whit hawks and possibly bhh-and the rumor says that VSB is whit SoT
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Johnny Nuclear on February 20, 2012, 04:44:55 pm
and the rumor says that VSB is whit SoT


no
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: pti4ka on February 20, 2012, 05:25:55 pm
As far as i know we are In alliance whit hawks and possibly bhh-and the rumor says that VSB is whit SoT

Wtf is "rumor"?

ps. You know our plan that is SoT+VSB+TTTLA+BBS ally.
We make this ally to kill Sarmatians  ;)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hects Hakal on February 20, 2012, 11:56:14 pm
Then good luck whit killing us ;) and you really dont know whats rumour? Shame on you :D
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Oliver on February 21, 2012, 08:02:11 am
Will be good if someone from CS will explain their position with VSB and C88.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Iceman on February 21, 2012, 08:54:05 am
"One guy say" That point that you start hating me juts confirm my words...
What are we have here??.....
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=21926.msg181387#msg181387
One noob says, that he is Russianfuc**er. Nothing more. And you trust. Lol.
My words: We have something likes AntiSoT alliance, nothing more. Noone enter my teamspeak and say:" Guys, go kill russians, they are fags!!"
 Its the words one of the leaders of BHH. Its not much, but im not noob. So you can trust.

P.S.Yes we are not much, if we are gather more, then five - we go to take some influence in BH - because its main aim of BHH org. Its explain, that some noobs call us - "another gang". We help allies only if we have not good online - 2-3 pple. Two weeks ago we had usuall online more then 10. Its not bad.
But anyway i dont hate you. Not much love...but not hate.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Oliver on February 21, 2012, 11:54:13 am
I found video about ARWH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTPDvFQTru8
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Iceman on February 21, 2012, 01:06:20 pm
Nice video! Did you watch it?  ;D
With all my respect for you, Oliver, it is not necessary to follow the tastes of trolls. This video about three noobs trying itself to praise to skies, and to kick a mutants ass. In this video even any nickname isn`t visible!!!! Such video I in the first month of game would feel ashamed to do. Anyway, to end senseless dispute I will ask to wait for the official answer from the official representative of ARWH gang, differently the theme will roll down in the Junk quick.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: John Porno on February 21, 2012, 01:39:18 pm
Will be good if someone from CS will explain their position with VSB and C88.
doesnt matter what "their" position is with c88 if we already told them to fuck off, right.

The whole peacekeepers thing happened a year ago and we dont want it to happen again.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Reconite on February 21, 2012, 03:27:47 pm
Nice video! Did you watch it?  ;D
With all my respect for you, Oliver, it is not necessary to follow the tastes of trolls. This video about three noobs trying itself to praise to skies, and to kick a mutants ass. In this video even any nickname isn`t visible!!!! Such video I in the first month of game would feel ashamed to do. Anyway, to end senseless dispute I will ask to wait for the official answer from the official representative of ARWH gang, differently the theme will roll down in the Junk quick.
God forbid people try to have fun with this game.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Imrinfected on February 21, 2012, 04:20:05 pm
God forbid people try to have fun with this game.
I had fun once and it was awful.

Also, for anyone else in this thread, I'm the leader of ARWH. Feel free to ask me anything.

P.S. That video was from near the start of this wipe. Check the date of upload.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Iceman on February 21, 2012, 07:07:15 pm
Ok, tell us please, who are you and what is your aim in this game. Why antirussian, and whom do you call "russians". Whith whom are you allied and does BHH are depends to this alliance? Read please this topick and gave us correctly answear. Because there are too many words about you here. I want to know more about you.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Reconite on February 21, 2012, 08:23:29 pm
The Anti-Russian thing is a lingering of wipes passed, when Russians were racist creatures from the wastes with cryllic names who shot anybody on sight if their name was not cryllic. We took up the opposite route. This is not to say that BHH are inhumane beasts, certainly not, as it's a faction I respect. But I'd have hoped you would have taken that light-heartedly instead of getting angry. The fact that you call us noobs while we've been playing for 3-4 years on and off is funny though, we're just trying to squeeze out what little "fun" there is to be had in this game while you act all angry and serious with your "NO FUN ALLOWED".

P.S. Google translate hurts my head.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Imrinfected on February 21, 2012, 09:13:41 pm
Ok, tell us please, who are you and what is your aim in this game. Why antirussian, and whom do you call "russians". Whith whom are you allied and does BHH are depends to this alliance? Read please this topick and gave us correctly answear. Because there are too many words about you here. I want to know more about you.
"I want to know more about you."
INCOMING WALL OF TEXT.

ARWH has no absolute and immediate aim, although if I were to guess at one then it would be a pipe dream of controlling every town indefinitely. Realistically, though, every member has their own individual goals and reasons for playing. Currently, almost everyone in ARWH is targeting SoT, so our efforts are focused primarily on sabotaging them where-ever possible.

We really don't have much to gain from controlling any towns ourselves so much as we would like security in them, ergo controlling them ourselves would be ideal if it were not for the TC system being so incredibly silly. If we do take a town then it will be more as a slight against some other faction -likely SoT- than out of genuine interest in control of that town, although that may eventually change.

The "Anti-Russian" part of the name is mostly a joke, referencing our history with Russians in past wipes and in The Life After who would kill anyone without a Cyrillic name.

We allied with TSAR to aid them in denying SoT influence over The Den. We are in the New Legion as an effort against SoT, but outside of that our participation thus far with the alliance is slim. As for which factions are actually in the alliance, I'll keep quiet about.

SoT is certainly not the only faction that we have a vendetta against, but it is the only faction where every member of our faction unanimously agrees that we should crush them.

Other factions that are currently "Kill on sight" for us include:
Chosen Soldiers
Section 8
The reason for these two factions is not because they're PK factions, but because they have endeavored to kill some of our members as a faction.

We're willing to negotiate with any faction other than SoT, however.

As for who we are, I don't want to go too deeply into detail. We're an old faction. Anyone who has played 2238 and perhaps even The Life After would almost surely remember us, and it's for that reason that I'm hesitant to disclose our past more explicitly. Our policies have changed with our leaders, eventually resulting in what we are now.

Where PK/Anti-PK is concerned, you might consider us a chaotic neutral. As a faction, we have never actively hunted other players without just cause. Individual members are encouraged to use their own judgment on the matter with the rule that they take full and individual responsibility for their actions.

Are there any other questions that I should address?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Iceman on February 22, 2012, 07:27:37 am
Ok, im satisfied. Thx for explanation.
The Anti-Russian thing is a lingering of wipes passed, when Russians were racist creatures from the wastes with cryllic names who shot anybody on sight if their name was not cryllic. We took up the opposite route. This is not to say that BHH are inhumane beasts, certainly not, as it's a faction I respect. But I'd have hoped you would have taken that light-heartedly instead of getting angry. The fact that you call us noobs while we've been playing for 3-4 years on and off is funny though, we're just trying to squeeze out what little "fun" there is to be had in this game while you act all angry and serious with your "NO FUN ALLOWED".
P.S. Google translate hurts my head.
I like jokes, and i understand your meaning of some things. Im anyway shoot every moovable on enc - cyrillic or not. So i haven`t problems with this shit)) Because if you would`nt shoot - you will be shooted by your aim. But then i try to return stuff, if this man is not cry out, like a girl. But TC is different from enc, and i never hear the words: die russians!!!You......!!! Or maybe can reflect about my place in this alliance ;)
P.S. By the way BHH organization is basically Russian. In skype we have more than 60 pple, we now are in an aliance (generally not PvP) with other large Russian organization - the Fly. It generally roleplay organization, in which are only Russian members. Total our joint stable online - 10+ pple. Sometimes reaches till 20-25. Its only Russians.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Oliver on February 29, 2012, 02:31:02 pm
I want announce that we are in alliance with AD and Otcasts now. And i think that tBF will be renamed on Five Points.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: manero on February 29, 2012, 08:48:45 pm
I would like to announce you that server is up, so move your lazy asses boys and go play!
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: John Porno on March 01, 2012, 04:43:48 am
so I heard tsar is playing with bbs and af are playing with hawks but at the same time tsar would also be with hawks but bbs are not though destroyer is old friend of bbs or something I dont know and wont even use punctuation for this sentence.

so yeah, maybe someone of the aforementioned factions want to explain what happened at modoc earlier this night? I gotta admit I didn't take screens and the only name I actually took notice of was destroyer so I dont know if there were actually any bbs inside but the word went around in mumble and all.

Would be nice to get some statement referring to that if anyone of these factions wants to make one, just so that we know what 2238 has in store for us the next weeks. to be honest im just interested if there's a new alliance or something, if you dont want to post details here then that's ok.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: manero on March 01, 2012, 07:25:28 am
so I heard tsar is playing with bbs

Lul, what? It was said at least few times in this topic that:

BBS will not join ANY alliance and don't need ANY allies

We shot everyone and everywhere regardless of the past seasons. It's far cooler to have enemies than allies in this game. Don't spread rumors.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: X_Treme on March 01, 2012, 08:15:09 am
Toxic Avengers + BHH + Sarmatians(TSAR) + Hawks + Grim Reapers + DOC SPAD with random americans.

Is it right ? How name it ?

I am responding late :D, reapers dont play anymore hehe, not for now, maybe in a few weeks, who know!! so we are not allies with nobody, only a few members of us are playing with some people, i dont know, but is not the entire gang

cya, i hope make the things clear :D
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: headshot on March 01, 2012, 11:24:12 am
(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/9/3/b924b5f4-f53f-4143-a830-c6d8647e07b2.jpg)

Guys, chill out. It's only computer game, isn't it?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: kttdestroyer on March 01, 2012, 02:19:35 pm
Crap, i post a message and forum server cleaned it... Anyways, i was to say that we have been fighting BBS yersterday aswell, first C88 and VSB then BBS then C88-VSB then BBS or something like that, i might have mixed up the order. Either way it was fun, even through we got a little bit too much people at that moment, 1 hour before modoc we had too few however, was fun on both occasions, hell, even more fun when we were fewer!  8)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 01, 2012, 04:34:54 pm
Well server is back up and I read the thread entirely.

This game and PvP is dying slowly but there are still a few who play. I think everybody gets scared when they hear OMFGWTF BIG ALLIANCE! When in fact its just a few people here and there from pre-wipe factions with Hawks.

For the most part towns are dead majority of the time there is never anybody around any town. Hinkly gets tiresome really fast. 

I think the state of this game is all the big factions are slowly dying, people losing interest in this game. Nobody wants to stand in town for 50 hours to try and capture a city. The days of attacking a faction standing in town with militia or starting a timer for a quick pvp fix is over.

By the time you scout all the cities which are usually empty, and then spotting somebody they well be gone by time you get there.

The thing is factions who swarm cause others to ally and swarm then the smaller factions who are not in these alliances get swarmed. Half the time the intention of creating a big huge fucking alliance (BHFA) is to fight the other (BHFA).

The main purpose of creating the new legion (BHFA) with hawks was to fight sot and tttla becuase they are the 2 biggest factions in the game.

If factions like c88 vsb tttla just played with their group and did small action with just their factions alone there would not be a need for a BHFA. I could say same about SOT but they are all one big faction, but I do not see them with a massive swarm these days.

I am all for small gang fights, I also like BHFA vs BHFA fights but you can't have BHFA vs small gangs and either way people well complain and say they like small fights and hate swarming.

But anyways the current state after the server outage is still the same. But still the good old days are over as far as PvP goes.

No longer the days of attacking and taking towns to draw people in, and doing Reno fights and going to other towns for a good 3-4 hours is kind of over which is sad.

But I guess being an ape is a funny thing, you never hear the PvE factions involved in any of this politics crap.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Termap on March 01, 2012, 05:15:13 pm
Yes, server is dying and we thank for everything the brilliant idea of a new TC and much better idea of ​​searching blueprints. The game can not be tiring for more
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: X_Treme on March 01, 2012, 08:35:14 pm
Yes, server is dying and we thank for everything the brilliant idea of a new TC and much better idea of ​​searching blueprints. The game can not be tiring for more

agree

fix the tc and create new quest for blueprints, i dont know, search blueprints in the desert is too boring for me
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on March 03, 2012, 05:48:47 pm
agree

fix the tc and create new quest for blueprints, i dont know, search blueprints in the desert is too boring for me
I disagree with being "boring," I find it very exciting and suspenseful because I never know what I'm gonna get in a box.
And when people enc me, I'm always battle-ready. Very fun actually. dunno why you find it boring.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Oliver on March 03, 2012, 05:58:26 pm
New faction try control Klamath...

tw king
eviler
jet wang
MiyaVi
Nataraja

...and many other nicks. Someone said that this is chinese faction. And i see by their actions (on my estimate), that  most from them are new players.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Biro Biro on March 03, 2012, 07:03:09 pm
haha
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Shangalar on March 03, 2012, 07:10:47 pm
I know tw king is thai. Dunno about the others but yeah, that's certainly an asian faction.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: avv on March 03, 2012, 07:39:19 pm
I know tw king is thai. Dunno about the others but yeah, that's certainly an asian faction.

You sure tw doesn't stand for Taiwan?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Shangalar on March 03, 2012, 07:52:21 pm
That's a good question, which I cannot answer for sure xD
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: X_Treme on March 03, 2012, 08:56:10 pm
Nataraja hahaha, i think that is another "Mordino's and Wright's" incurtions hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Biogitanus on March 07, 2012, 04:16:04 am
I disagree with being "boring," I find it very exciting and suspenseful because I never know what I'm gonna get in a box.
And when people enc me, I'm always battle-ready. Very fun actually. dunno why you find it boring.

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50510_245710070216_5883287_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Ricopandehigo on March 07, 2012, 04:37:53 am
I have the hope that all this is a testing
now for me is boring

and this does not lie :: >>> http://fo2238.fodev.net/status/

Welcome to prewipe a few months ago
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Doctor Sepp on March 07, 2012, 09:20:25 pm
About CS.
We never asked c88 for cooperation, so they never could tell us to fuck off. We are not many, doing town raids ocasionally.
That's all you need to know, I guess.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: LeonTheNorse on March 10, 2012, 02:44:36 pm
Session Start: to feb 02 19:23:51 2012
[19:23] <[CS]Jack> hi
[19:23] ->> [CS]Jack is ~mss@x-3403.adsl.inetia.pl (...)
[19:23] ->> [CS]Jack is on: #vsb #2238
[19:23] ->> [CS]Jack using irc.forestnet.org (Wonderland...)
[19:23] ->> [CS]Jack :End of /WHOIS list.
[19:24] <[CS]Jack> i heard you werent so happy to make alliance with cs?
[19:26] <[CS]Jack> leon are you online?
[19:29] <[C88]Leon> Yes but busy. Well we voted over it and result was 10 said no 1 said yes i closed the poll when it reached 10
[19:29] <[CS]Jack> i know

If you want i can find 20x more of same, as it wasnt just jack that asked but two more from cs if i recall right.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 11, 2012, 01:23:41 pm
Session Start: to feb 02 19:23:51 2012
[19:23] <[CS]Jack> hi
[19:23] ->> [CS]Jack is ~mss@x-3403.adsl.inetia.pl (...)
[19:23] ->> [CS]Jack is on: #vsb #2238
[19:23] ->> [CS]Jack using irc.forestnet.org (Wonderland...)
[19:23] ->> [CS]Jack :End of /WHOIS list.
[19:24] <[CS]Jack> i heard you werent so happy to make alliance with cs?
[19:26] <[CS]Jack> leon are you online?
[19:29] <[C88]Leon> Yes but busy. Well we voted over it and result was 10 said no 1 said yes i closed the poll when it reached 10
[19:29] <[CS]Jack> i know

If you want i can find 20x more of same, as it wasnt just jack that asked but two more from cs if i recall right.

Anti-pk allying with pk is the norm and the cool thing to do right now in 2238 :P its a shame you guys don't follow these popular trends.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Mrockatansky on March 12, 2012, 06:43:58 am
No no no. No CS,thank you.
Also: calling them old & experienced made me smile, they where the SoT of last season. Yes Sot players, that's a hint.

Another funfact: my signature is quoting  some CS guy i dont even remember.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: headshot on March 12, 2012, 08:07:28 am
I think you quoting BBS or SoT/Rogues guy in your signature.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: manero on March 12, 2012, 09:27:55 am
I think you quoting BBS or SoT/Rogues guy in your signature.

So our agreement starts from now. I didn't mention Guardians just because they represent no real force in my opinion.  If you disagree, post it in another topic.

He is from CS.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Oliver on March 12, 2012, 08:02:04 pm
I dont see CS in game... or i dont know their new nicks. Most biggest and active factions now : 1. SOT 2. Hawks+BHH+Toxic Avengers+AF Alliance (i name it "Hawk's Alliance - HA") 3. TTTLA+VSB+C88+Guardians (that german guys) 4. BBS + DOC SPADs 5. Fake North Alliance 6. TSAR (Sarmatians) 7. Dont laugh, but in last position i can stand Chinese Faction, i saw them in Klamath in Gecko (tw king with friends); they are numerous.

Fists are unactive now, only few of them in game. Other factions i think in one from these alliances or do trololo in mines and Reno. If even CS playing, then i cant understand which players now in CS, becoase i think many memebers from OLD BIG CS now in Fists and BBS. And intresting whats happend with Sir Hubertus...
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: manero on March 12, 2012, 08:38:42 pm
I think you should count Hawks and Tsar as a one alliance because they play together since long time ago.

...BBS + DOC SPADs...

...i think many memebers from OLD BIG CS now in Fists and BBS....

To make things clear:

BBS 'allies': DOCSPAD, Lotrzyk(ex - CS), Fireboy(ex - Red Dot Army)  ;)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: T-888 on March 12, 2012, 08:55:24 pm
Lotrzyk

Ex leader of CS , nice. :)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: LeMark on March 12, 2012, 10:46:03 pm
If you want 1 CS with you is Lotrzyk that for sure. I am surprise he left CS...
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 13, 2012, 04:49:18 am
I dont see CS in game... or i dont know their new nicks. Most biggest and active factions now : 1. SOT 2. Hawks+BHH+Toxic Avengers+AF Alliance (i name it "Hawk's Alliance - HA") 3. TTTLA+VSB+C88+Guardians (that german guys) 4. BBS + DOC SPADs 5. Fake North Alliance 6. TSAR (Sarmatians) 7. Dont laugh, but in last position i can stand Chinese Faction, i saw them in Klamath in Gecko (tw king with friends); they are numerous.

Fists are unactive now, only few of them in game. Other factions i think in one from these alliances or do trololo in mines and Reno. If even CS playing, then i cant understand which players now in CS, becoase i think many memebers from OLD BIG CS now in Fists and BBS. And intresting whats happend with Sir Hubertus...

Toxic avengers the reamining players who didn't quit game split, half of us are with tsar/hawks other half is in "fake north alliance". Toxic Avengers is dead faction. BHH isn't all that active any more :( kind of sad they were a fun faction and good times in broken hills.

The 4 of us from toxic avengers that are with hawks I don't even know what we call ourselves any more lol. Everybody just assoicates us with hawks but we aren't their core czech speaking players. I think Hawks or TSAR alliance is good term now.


CS are still around, I think they group up at times and search the towns.

I think the most active is your gang, five points or black flag whatever you call yourself we just call it oliver's gang, amboys alliance, hawks/sarmation alliance and BBS seem to be the most actice in PvP if you ask me.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Kilgore on March 13, 2012, 06:11:37 am
4. BBS + DOC SPADs
I lol'ed  ;D
Is it some sort of a new alliance with those SPADs?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Termap on March 13, 2012, 06:29:45 am
I dont see CS in game... or i dont know their new nicks. Most biggest and active factions now : 1. SOT 2. Hawks+BHH+Toxic Avengers+AF Alliance (i name it "Hawk's Alliance - HA") 3. TTTLA+VSB+C88+Guardians (that german guys) 4. BBS + DOC SPADs 5. Fake North Alliance 6. TSAR (Sarmatians) 7. Dont laugh, but in last position i can stand Chinese Faction, i saw them in Klamath in Gecko (tw king with friends); they are numerous.

Fists are unactive now, only few of them in game. Other factions i think in one from these alliances or do trololo in mines and Reno. If even CS playing, then i cant understand which players now in CS, becoase i think many memebers from OLD BIG CS now in Fists and BBS. And intresting whats happend with Sir Hubertus...

Oliver, you can write a book, you are obviously in the imagination have a talent.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Iceman on March 13, 2012, 09:36:44 am
BHH isn't all that active any more :( kind of sad they were a fun faction and good times in broken hills.
Still active, but not much quantity.... Fighting for online. After last server crush much pple are gone.... So now we gather remnants and will join all antiSoT and RP actions. Yesterday was caravan trip BH-NCR-Junktown-Hub, but it was only 6 pple, defending the cart... Actually, you can enter our teamspeak and hear current situation and our actions. If you ally to us, certainly :)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: jan0s1k on March 13, 2012, 04:17:16 pm
Ex leader of CS , nice. :)
CS never had (except Red Dot a long time ago) leader as I know. Or maybe you mention action commander - and this is another thing.

I dont see CS in game... or i dont know their new nicks. Most biggest and active factions now : 1. SOT 2. Hawks+BHH+Toxic Avengers+AF Alliance (i name it "Hawk's Alliance - HA") 3. TTTLA+VSB+C88+Guardians (that german guys) 4. BBS + DOC SPADs 5. Fake North Alliance 6. TSAR (Sarmatians) 7. Dont laugh, but in last position i can stand Chinese Faction, i saw them in Klamath in Gecko (tw king with friends); they are numerous.

Fists are unactive now, only few of them in game. Other factions i think in one from these alliances or do trololo in mines and Reno. If even CS playing, then i cant understand which players now in CS, becoase i think many memebers from OLD BIG CS now in Fists and BBS. And intresting whats happend with Sir Hubertus...

I don't know anything about situation, because I'm not playing since wipe, but.. Rather they not left, they just don't play. (maybe except Lotrzyk and Strigoi)
And who is in Fists and BBS from CS? I don't remember such persons (or maybe you mention Tespis, which with I don't even remember, that I talk while he was in CS, he didn't had even working microphone in that times..)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Kilgore on March 13, 2012, 04:47:01 pm
Ex leader of CS , nice. :)
CS never had (except Red Dot a long time ago) leader as I know. Or maybe you mention action commander - and this is another thing.
Which is now in SOT. Hahah T-888 :D
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: T-888 on March 13, 2012, 04:49:47 pm
CS never had (except Red Dot a long time ago) leader as I know. Or maybe you mention action commander - and this is another thing.

I have little insight of how chosen soldiers cooperate with each other or work in general as a team and fighting force , but from what i have observed it seems they are much more unorganized than ever it's not one sided too , both low performance in fights as well losing members , their kinda splitting up and at the same time recruiting. Quite the coincidence when some sort of  " leader " leaves everything starts to fall apart , though i don't know when exactly he left i presume it's recent and i believe all above said is somehow connected. Most probably he was the only one who brought some order in their ranks till he left.

I'm just speculating :)

Which is now in SOT. Hahah T-888 :D

He is quite inactive.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: manero on March 13, 2012, 04:51:13 pm
I'm not playing since wipe, but..
:D

they not left, they just don't play.
Whats the different?

And who is in BBS from CS?

I will tell you because you got really bad habit of talking about things you don't know. BBS got 1 ex-CS member and it is Strigoi, BBS got 1 ex-CS allie and it is Lotrzyk who asked if he can play with us, there were 2 other guys, Jack and Ulfarr. They quit, but few days ago one of them asked if he can join again, unfortunately for him decision of team was to reject his application. He had his chance in the past.

Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: seb910 on March 13, 2012, 05:05:05 pm
I`m Strigoi, I left CS and I`m enjoying BBS now.

You don`t speculate T-888 cuz you know nothing about CS.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: T-888 on March 13, 2012, 05:37:35 pm
I can indeed speculate , what i heard CS had and still has quite " complicated " players , no offense. So i guess anything is possible :)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Toll on March 13, 2012, 06:10:03 pm
CS is active and same as BBS, we dont have town but we are looking for pvp in Gecko, BH and Redding.
Sorry if we didnt want to sit in toilet for 60h so we dont have any town...we want "only God know when" comming update to fix TC and we will take some town redding or Bh
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: LeMark on March 13, 2012, 07:09:11 pm
Sorry if we didnt want to sit in toilet for 60h so we dont have any town...we want "only God know when" comming update to fix TC and we will take some town redding or Bh

Add TTT on the list of faction who don't want to sit in toilet for 60h  ::)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Rascal on March 13, 2012, 08:22:46 pm
ORLY ? just to remind:

(https://i.imgur.com/52PQ6.png)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Dark Angel on March 13, 2012, 08:28:28 pm
GM helps random faction in TC??
Sounds fair..

Same as i killed one of BBS member and Jovanka respawned him  ;D
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: LeMark on March 13, 2012, 08:35:14 pm
OK Rascal, 2 or 3 TTTLA on 21 TTTLA members try it once, only once. How many time SOT/HAWK did it? How many member did it?

Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: JovankaB on March 13, 2012, 08:35:50 pm
GM helps random faction in TC??
Sounds fair..
Yes you got me I joined lawyers faction and helped them camping with my supersneak.
Now I will get sacked from GM team again :(

Same as i killed one of BBS member and Jovanka respawned him  ;D
See, that's why I spy on them all day, to revive them when they die... It all makes sense now.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Rascal on March 13, 2012, 08:49:21 pm
Quote
OK Rascal, 2 or 3 TTTLA on 21 TTTLA members try it once, only once. How many time SOT/HAWK did it? How many member did it?

u crazy ? u tried it few times at nights camping in hotel room(that not-rentable on left). Luckly u stopped such shit actions.
SOT never camped some stupid buildings or toilets couse we never had to - dominating battles works batter.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Kilgore on March 13, 2012, 08:55:19 pm
Same as i killed one of BBS member and Jovanka respawned him  ;D
No, you killed 10 of BBS but the second wave managed to defeat you ... That's how the story goes
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: LeMark on March 13, 2012, 08:58:09 pm
SOT never camped some stupid buildings or toilets couse we never had to - dominating battles works batter.

This is a lie, when I rent a room for my seller in Redding I find a Sot inside the room full stuff AFK, he get kill 5 minutes after and he never react.

And for the night camping I am on night shift and we never did thing like that.

Btw Jovanka a good Lawyer don't resurect BBS member,  you should know that already after all this time with us.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Dark Angel on March 13, 2012, 08:58:42 pm
No, you killed 10 of BBS but the second wave managed to defeat you ... That's how the story goes

I wrote fact, as i remember it was Maniac in Redding ;]
Anyway keep your rage on your own "2238pol" world
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Rascal on March 13, 2012, 09:04:58 pm
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This is a lie, when I rent a room for my seller in Redding I find a Sot inside the room AFK, he get kill 5 minutes after and he never react.
ur confusing gaining loot from locker by 2 chars with camping toilet to gain influence points by 6+ people. We never used such rats tactics - we never had too.

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And for the night camping I am on night shift and we never did thing like that.
Thats untrue - maybe u wasnt playing those times but I personally was on 2 "cleaning actions" with t888 where like ~8 guys from u camped in malamute top left room (that 1 with 2 doors).


==========
overall it doesnt matter - tc is shit - its a fact.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hololasima on March 13, 2012, 09:13:51 pm
something

Someone from you also said something like "We dont like militia, its noobish to fight next to them".

And you should blame other teams for that room camping MUCH more than TTLA.

By the way, why you still argue about things you dont know?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Rascal on March 13, 2012, 09:25:54 pm
trolling

cheers - maybe another time.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: jan0s1k on March 14, 2012, 12:48:39 am
:D
Whats the different?

I will tell you because you got really bad habit of talking about things you don't know. BBS got 1 ex-CS member and it is Strigoi, BBS got 1 ex-CS allie and it is Lotrzyk who asked if he can play with us, there were 2 other guys, Jack and Ulfarr. They quit, but few days ago one of them asked if he can join again, unfortunately for him decision of team was to reject his application. He had his chance in the past.
Didn't already I said, that Łotrzyk and Strigoi is playing with you? Eh.. Read sentences, not just cut quotes which changes means by T-888. And yes, I know, that Jack and Ulfarr (in times when Strigoi moved to you) played with you as well, it was before wipe, wasn't? But I just asked who is currently playing with you from CS :) (maybe not so literally, but.. you could get this what I meant)

And about this difference, if there is no difference for you between players who isn't playing this game and who just leave to enemy team, then.. Nevermind..
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: FrankenStone on March 14, 2012, 12:50:46 am
lol how can i became a gm sound funny when i read this shit here ^^
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Wind_Drift on March 14, 2012, 01:16:10 am
ITT:

"You suck"
"No YOU suck"
"Do not"
"Do too"
"Well I'm still better than you"
"No, I'm better than you"
"Nuh uh"
"Yes huh"
"You're a poo poo face"
"No, YOU'RE a poo poo face"
"You still suck"
"No, but you do"
"Nuh uh"
"Yes huh"

And so on and so forth.

You guys ever get tired of this?  Fuck, I know I do.

 ::)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Iceman on March 14, 2012, 07:55:29 am
ITT:

"You suck"
"No YOU suck"
"Do not"
"Do too"
"Well I'm still better than you"
"No, I'm better than you"
"Nuh uh"
"Yes huh"
"You're a poo poo face"
"No, YOU'RE a poo poo face"
"You still suck"
"No, but you do"
"Nuh uh"
"Yes huh"
And so on and so forth.
You guys ever get tired of this?  Fuck, I know I do.
 ::)
Oh, i see not only me spend 15 minutes of time to read suck. Nice situation on 2238 server, guys: trolling, flooding and punching each other.  :P
BTW.
Current situation is
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Skycast on March 14, 2012, 08:59:26 am
Current situation is
Hmm i see same numbers at all servers *) Goon haven full of offline bluesuits in banks counting as players, requiem and tlamk2 - dual,tripple log fights as always.
But yes, current TC worse than ever.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: seb910 on March 14, 2012, 09:58:23 am
Didn't already I said, that Łotrzyk and Strigoi is playing with you? Eh.. Read sentences..

He did:
And who is in Fists and BBS from CS? I don't remember such persons (or maybe you mention Tespis, which with I don't even remember, that I talk while he was in CS, he didn't had even working microphone in that times..)
Try to remember sentences you are writing.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 14, 2012, 02:35:49 pm
WTF sot doesn't afk camp, dude you guys were always afk camping with militia in broken hills to reach max inf. Also in den when you guys were active and used nothing but crit buster and laser sneakers to guard your idlers on proxy's which you geniously got your characters banned using. You cannot say you didn't camp take the towns, you did and with militia and were lucky enough to get the towns and add militia and make it pain in the ass for everybody, your the best!

Thank you once agian sot for PKing all of us in the early stages of the wipe with gattling lasers when we didn't have any blue prints and armors to defend agiasnt them. And good job taking the towns when everybody who bought bases were bugged and would dissapear from world map and had to waste more time buying another base, and rubbing it in our faces you held towns your the best the wasteland has to offer!

But anyways everybody can agree the town control sucks.

Yes some people don't like to camp toilets or hotel rooms that is why the pros town cow troll for their towns.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/jzisyb.jpg)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: T-888 on March 14, 2012, 03:04:40 pm
WTF sot doesn't afk camp, dude you guys were always afk camping with militia in broken hills to reach max inf. Also in den when you guys were active and used nothing but crit buster and laser sneakers to guard your idlers.

So maybe you should have done something about it ?

Thank you once agian sot for PKing all of us in the early stages of the wipe with gattling lasers when we didn't have any blue prints and armors to defend agiasnt them. And good job taking the towns when everybody who bought bases were bugged and would dissapear from world map :).

Buhahhahaha ;D
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 14, 2012, 03:14:36 pm
So maybe you should have done something about it ?

Buhahhahaha ;D

Suicide burster troll style a few times but didn't do much :P Man you guys are lucky... I didn't think anybody anticipated a shitty town control system and thought it would be like last wipe so some of us took our time to get bases and gear ;\ As for me I didn't rush to get gattling lasers. But that is all in the past, this topic about current situation. And I do not see you guys that active any more or show up for any fights :(
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: T-888 on March 14, 2012, 03:24:23 pm
As for me I didn't rush to get gattling lasers. But that is all in the past, this topic about current situation. And I do not see you guys that active any more or show up for any fights :(

Rush gatling guns ? I was laughing about what nonsense that is.

This all reminds me of ....

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3808/offlinek.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/offlinek.jpg/)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Rio on March 14, 2012, 03:25:23 pm
They were well prepared for new session. Someone who spent many hours on CBT testing builds, weapons and game mechanics in easy way must be well prepared. That is why they got better start Swarm :P
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Victory on March 14, 2012, 03:26:35 pm
swarm stop crying about sot. sot is sot and fight with it. tc is same for everyone, sot use dirty moves because game allow to use them. kill sot in fair fight and stop crying.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Iceman on March 14, 2012, 03:50:31 pm
swarm stop crying about sot. sot is sot and fight with it. tc is same for everyone, sot use dirty moves because game allow to use them. kill sot in fair fight and stop crying.
Yea!! Stop crying!! Kill SoT!!! I like it!!
We can use proxies too.  Stand up and fight, bit*hes !!! >:(  >:(  >:(
Who say, that they are unstopable? 
(http://www.fonline.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13257&d=1330807654)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Cheesey Dean on March 14, 2012, 05:30:02 pm
Yea!! Stop crying!! Kill SoT!!! I like it!!
We can use proxies too.  Stand up and fight, bit*hes !!! >:(  >:(  >:(
Who say, that they are unstopable? 
(http://www.fonline.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13257&d=1330807654)
How did you guys find them? I'd love to kill me some SoT, but the only place I've ever encountered them is Broken Hills and the 38 13 square.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 14, 2012, 05:34:37 pm
swarm stop crying about sot. sot is sot and fight with it. tc is same for everyone, sot use dirty moves because game allow to use them. kill sot in fair fight and stop crying.

Sot was only good early wipe. I was being funny, and stating they were lucky most got off to a very bad start with bugged bases and couldn't tc right away. And I was also simply pointing out SOT was the only faction who raised their influence afk camping behind super mutant militia like little girls. Town control like a man and camp a room with a cow or at a toilet with no militia to guard you.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Kelin on March 14, 2012, 06:43:02 pm
T-888 & Iceman there is something wrong with your client, you can see through the walls  :o
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Perteks on March 14, 2012, 06:57:58 pm
Cheaters!
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: T-888 on March 14, 2012, 08:26:18 pm
Remember we are always waiting you in our cities , keep coming , dying and whining. :)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: LeMark on March 14, 2012, 08:52:05 pm
Remember we are always waiting you in our cities , keep coming , dying and whining. :)

To make PVE video?

Rogues was great team, SOT.... is something else.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Skycast on March 14, 2012, 09:05:53 pm
To make PVE video?

Rogues was great team, SOT.... is something else.
Orly? For fight with us without militia people just coming our towns and stand far away from militia and thats all.
And actually we have many videos when we kill TTTLA and others without any militia.
You must know it better than others *_)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: jan0s1k on March 15, 2012, 12:10:29 am
He did:Try to remember sentences you are writing.
(maybe except Lotrzyk and Strigoi)
I remember, what I'm writing. Stop drinking.

T-888 & Iceman there is something wrong with your client, you can see through the walls  :o
It is just simple graphic replace, anyone with paint can do the same..
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Iceman on March 15, 2012, 07:14:36 am
To make PVE video?

Rogues was great team, SOT.... is something else.
I heard about Supermutant mercs, which SoT place as militia. So if you want to avoid it - dont stay in TC zone. Or they can enter with 20 mercs. In BH we allways stay in down right corner - its the best place, as for me to avoid mercenaries. But without them its wery hard to defeat SoT too. They have more then 10 pple online. Good equipped and tripleloged. Yea, Rogues was great enemies, but SoT now is strong too.
Guys meet them near SF, in mariposa, New reno, BH and Redding. But i not suggest to fight if you count less, then 10 pple.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 15, 2012, 08:56:29 am
Well this still proves that nothing has really changed we are all still talking smack to eachother from our differnt pvp groups.

I think the situation right now is everybody is well established and those who didn't quit and give up are still playing and pvping.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: tesob on March 15, 2012, 12:57:01 pm

Rogues was great team, SOT.... is something else.
Can you explain the difference?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: John Porno on March 15, 2012, 02:45:45 pm
Orly? For fight with us without militia people just coming our towns and stand far away from militia and thats all.
And actually we have many videos when we kill TTTLA and others without any militia.
You must know it better than others *_)
it's no secret that sot are more skilled in pvp than CoA. In all honesty, I have never seen a larger scaled fight in the past 15months against rouges that we won with equal numbers.

However, the thing that bugs most players in our alliance is, that even though you have the skill to beat us, you still tend to use mercs and proxies on top of that.

ANd about redding, the northern position at mine is complete and utter shit, but there are virtually no alternatives.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Toll on March 15, 2012, 04:02:45 pm
bugs and Tc are killing this server
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Sarakin on March 15, 2012, 06:25:21 pm
As much as I enjoy flaming and trolling, I dont want this thread to be derailed. So either behave or start a new thread.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Termap on March 15, 2012, 07:33:25 pm
And you are who? ::)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Samaster on March 18, 2012, 08:09:28 am
I dont see CS in game... or i dont know their new nicks. Most biggest and active factions now : .......... 7. Dont laugh, but in last position i can stand Chinese Faction, i saw them in Klamath in Gecko (tw king with friends); they are numerous.

yeah, dont laugh, hehe.

Our Chinese faction come to 2238 server since 2009, and applied the chinese forum here on "Foreign wastes" on May 2010. From 2009 to 2012, TOTALLY we had more than 200 players played in the server. But because of the time different and english language problem, we are losing members in all of the season. Generally, we keep 20-25 active players in 2238 world.

We have different faction names in the past seasons. Our faction named "The World of New Order" in this season. we change faction names each season because this name is no meaning to us, our faction have other chinese name in chinese fallout forum. In 2238, WNO is just "a name" to build the bases.

We know other factions more than they know us, that's it.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hatikavah on March 18, 2012, 08:39:23 am
u should take care of your words. dont let me see u by any chance.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: LeMark on March 24, 2012, 06:51:59 pm
Can you explain the difference?

On my point of view Rogues was a faction looking for entertaining and challenging action. On the other hands SOT are more looking about victory at all cost. For example, we don't really see the SOT faction out of BH or Redding. When they saw around 7-8 people and they got a opportunity to have some fun they choice to spawn 20 merc and add it to militia, than make video of PVE. Another thing, some where T-88 say he was thinking about putting a 4 alt on wm during operation, that kind of special :/ Do not work on your teamplay, pex more alt! Some where Skycast say on Requiem and TLA it is fight of fast relog, I will say now 2238 is same...
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Sarakin on March 24, 2012, 07:09:58 pm
I would say Rogues and SoT are the same, only this time, FR is allowed, so why shouldnt they abuse it to the max.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Killer Rabbit on March 24, 2012, 07:38:30 pm
lemark stop crying and recreate your swarm, we need "justice" ;D
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 24, 2012, 11:03:10 pm
On my point of view Rogues was a faction looking for entertaining and challenging action. On the other hands SOT are more looking about victory at all cost. For example, we don't really see the SOT faction out of BH or Redding. When they saw around 7-8 people and they got a opportunity to have some fun they choice to spawn 20 merc and add it to militia, than make video of PVE. Another thing, some where T-88 say he was thinking about putting a 4 alt on wm during operation, that kind of special :/ Do not work on your teamplay, pex more alt! Some where Skycast say on Requiem and TLA it is fight of fast relog, I will say now 2238 is same...

No differnt than last session only this time you can't stop them unless you wait 50 hours toilet controlling. I do not see how any faction who played last wipe can cry baby about this we all had to go up agianst militia and players last wipe. The way I see it now you know how we felt when you loaded redding with over buffed militia and had a shitload of people who can spawn in and guard it for many days on end.

I blame the TC system though, factions hold towns way too long and the whole fast paced action town control is gone now.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: OG on March 25, 2012, 12:47:57 am
No differnt than last session only this time you can't stop them unless you wait 50 hours toilet controlling. I do not see how any faction who played last wipe can cry baby about this we all had to go up agianst militia and players last wipe. The way I see it now you know how we felt when you loaded redding with over buffed militia and had a shitload of people who can spawn in and guard it for many days on end.

I blame the TC system though, factions hold towns way too long and the whole fast paced action town control is gone now.

That is why we need TC windows.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: T-888 on March 25, 2012, 04:26:43 am
Another thing, some where T-888 say he was thinking about putting a 4 alt on wm during operation

I said i'm considering and if you wish to know , i didn't.

TC fix is needed , then you won't see as you see it " to spawn 20 merc and add it to militia." Take in mind each time you step in our city , you are the attacker and were the defending. If we have only a hunch that there might be a third team on WM , militia use is the logical solution. I don't want to hear any whine about that , you were no better than us last session. About everyone else , i personally don't give a fuck. Eat sh*t and die , whatever ;D

Do not work on your teamplay, pex more alt!

What garbage is this ?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Rascal on March 25, 2012, 04:51:47 am
Lemark is just another crybaby, like Swarm, Iceman and other noobs in this topic who just dies from ours hands zilions of times...
truth is that we totally dominated this sever just from the beggining of the wipe.. starting from 1st faction having their base...  etc.etc.

each time u enter our city u get smashed and this is true reason why u ragequit 2238 server and start playing some shitty hello kitty. U just realized u cant beat us... :> We made ragequit CS from 2238 after killing em like 6 times in a row at the beggining of the wipe... after that they came back but left by their leaders with some noobs freshly recruited from brahmin pen from ncr.. same with ttla swarm got raped dozen times - stopped playing.  All this shit with imaginary 20 mercs and other nonsense bullshit - pics/videos or didnt happend - all that is just ur justification of ur failure u just cant acknoledge before urself that u suxxx so u are creating some another dimension where werrr using 50 mutants 50 alts and 50 bombs in every action haha.

Also those lies about "ohh CoA not camping toilet like rats"  I have like 10 screen of ur swarmmembers camping toilets like rats even at somer crazy deep night ours (insomnia power) I will post it tommorow (another pc) xD

This topic is just one big butthurt of noobs who'r dying all the time :>  We are playing the same game on the same rules if u cant beat us it means u suuxx in: skill, tactics, teamplay, organise, thinking - choose correct answer urself.


cheers.

-----
and yes TC need to be fixed  - it suxx. Its a pitty but truelly I already lost any hope for update till next wipe... :/
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 25, 2012, 07:07:25 am
Lemark is just another crybaby, like Swarm, Iceman and other noobs in this topic who just dies from ours hands zilions of times...
truth is that we totally dominated this sever just from the beggining of the wipe.. starting from 1st faction having their base...  etc.etc.

each time u enter our city u get smashed and this is true reason why u ragequit 2238 server and start playing some shitty hello kitty. U just realized u cant beat us... :> We made ragequit CS from 2238 after killing em like 6 times in a row at the beggining of the wipe... after that they came back but left by their leaders with some noobs freshly recruited from brahmin pen from ncr.. same with ttla swarm got raped dozen times - stopped playing.  All this shit with imaginary 20 mercs and other nonsense bullshit - pics/videos or didnt happend - all that is just ur justification of ur failure u just cant acknoledge before urself that u suxxx so u are creating some another dimension where werrr using 50 mutants 50 alts and 50 bombs in every action haha.

Also those lies about "ohh CoA not camping toilet like rats"  I have like 10 screen of ur swarmmembers camping toilets like rats even at somer crazy deep night ours (insomnia power) I will post it tommorow (another pc) xD

This topic is just one big butthurt of noobs who'r dying all the time :>  We are playing the same game on the same rules if u cant beat us it means u suuxx in: skill, tactics, teamplay, organise, thinking - choose correct answer urself.


cheers.

-----
and yes TC need to be fixed  - it suxx. Its a pitty but truelly I already lost any hope for update till next wipe... :/

You may be good at a video game but you suck at life. We play for fun and for laughs not take it all serious and act like dickheads which seems to be your factions case.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Simon on March 25, 2012, 07:21:48 am
We are playing the same game on the same rules if u cant beat us it means u suuxx in: skill, tactics, teamplay, organise, thinking - choose correct answer urself.

Says the guy who needs to log 3 characters in a fight and likes to rambo rush into buildings filled with players.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 25, 2012, 07:26:06 am
Says the guy who needs to log 3 characters in a fight and likes to rambo rush into buildings filled with players.

They fight like bitches they don't attack and unless half your faction is dead from fighting another faction and hide behind militia or kill people when they don't have gear yet. They kill us blue suit but when we enter full gear they just hide behind their militia like girls when they don't have their numbers. These guys couldn't win without their militia right now, now that we got our blue prints and drug characters. They are pussies and don't travel town to town any more and just hide behind their super mutant militia like little girls. Organized no lifing is what I call this.

We die go on suicide missions but we take pride in being brave warrior not fight like girls.

You know tttla was the dominate faction last wipe but at least they didn't act the way sot does writing taunts on the forum all day and troll people.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Simon on March 25, 2012, 07:43:46 am
Let me say some things I have seen so far about SoT
They were dominating at the start of session because they are good players and fast at getting faction up, items up, capping towns etc etc, ofcourse they will beat you at the start of session due to these advantages.
After some time has passed in the session they need to start using relogs and suicide bomber sneaks to win fights.
They had all towns, now they have two left, they don't seem to attack any towns, just defend their own.
They wake up at early hours of the morning to clean their cities of any afk players who are trying to gain influence, the standard breakdown of the stragety goes, send in 5-10 silent death sneaks, if that fails start using suicide sneaks, if that fails dispatch large group of combat chars finally.
They tend to talk to the dead bodies of players who are sleeping calling them noobs and to go to hinkley.

Eventually the time will come for SoT to attack other players towns and we will see how they do but for now let them stay in their towns and be happy.
Note: I live in GMT+10, I am not a sad case.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: headshot on March 25, 2012, 09:44:32 am
SoT is the serious buisness.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hololasima on March 25, 2012, 09:47:53 am
Rascal, seems you are really good friend with Mushrooms, because you talk exactly like him  :)

So can you tell us when your team will "leave the server©" due to "enemies are noobs" ?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Tomowolf on March 25, 2012, 09:55:08 am
Rascal, the problem isn't reagequiting of one team, but no chances to win then in future, then you'll play alone there, you understand? You won't have any more enemies to fight, and this will make game boring.
TC system is wrong, that one new team cannot even be compared to old team which hold cities for months.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: headshot on March 25, 2012, 10:15:12 am
Dear FOnliners,

I'd like to reccomend you this game:
(http://jawnesny.pl/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/space-invaders.jpg)
It's very similar to PvP in FOnline: 2238. If you know what I mean.

Quote
So can you tell us when your team will "leave the server©" due to "enemies are noobs" ?
I just wanted to write this. :)

TC is wrong. It's about 1 hour of sneaking and 5 minutes of action...

Oh and btw, I'm impressed by yer motivation, people. Personally, I don't have enough time to level more than 2 characters and you're talking about 4-5 characters over maps and sneakers...  :o
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Termap on March 25, 2012, 10:33:02 am
Actualy SoTs / Rogues arent good players, their advantage has always consisted in the use of mercenaries/supermutants/dynamites/ hord of characters ready over wp. From the time before the wipe I remember how 12 Rogues jumped to 6 with 2 groups mercs, its happened many times, really i dont remember same fair fight with them. I remember one age before, which was only about mercenaries - camping in city each entrance with supermutants. If you were sometimes in hinkley, you should know how it is easy defeat them. Really, I do not considered to be good players, only for masters PvE, fraud, swarm, proxies and exploits.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 25, 2012, 12:41:03 pm
Actualy SoTs / Rogues arent good players, their advantage has always consisted in the use of mercenaries/supermutants/dynamites/ hord of characters ready over wp. From the time before the wipe I remember how 12 Rogues jumped to 6 with 2 groups mercs, its happened many times, really i dont remember same fair fight with them. I remember one age before, which was only about mercenaries - camping in city each entrance with supermutants. If you were sometimes in hinkley, you should know how it is easy defeat them. Really, I do not considered to be good players, only for masters PvE, fraud, swarm, proxies and exploits.

Well fraud swarm proxies and exploits and being a complete asshole wins this game.


You know what I have to get this out, and I am going to say this. I don't give a fuck if I get banned warned or on the forums, I don't give a fuck if I lose in a fucking video game at least I have fun and can laugh and make jokes and have fun in this game. There are things I do not like about this game, and wonder why the fuck they do the things they do when adding, removing and balancing the game.

So seriously, t-888, 4tika, rascal and any member who floods these forums with pointless trolling, get a life, its a video game nobody is that upset nobody is bowing down to you or think you are some alpha human being.  You guys are nobody famous, nobody siginificant nobdy who has any real power in the world, just a tiny spec in the big wide universe which doesn't mean a damn thing that you and your stupid wanna-be soldier faction killed a few people in a video game. Do you really need to go into every fucking forum topic and write a bunch of stupid shit messages about your wins agianst other factions?

SoT you have have it coming yourway, people like you always have it coming. We well make you rage quit, and if it isn't us it well be some new update which well no longer give you the power that you have in this game and you well be playing hello kitty with korean school girls where you belong.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Rascal on March 25, 2012, 01:04:22 pm
ahhaha I knew there will be tons of butthurts after the truth was spoken out loud :>
Its because naked truth is just painfull for u :)
Im not even bothering myself reading this worthless bullcrap.

here are some promised TTLAswarm Toilet Rats hall of shame gallery:

(https://i.imgur.com/qeKGB.jpg)
and some older reminder:
(https://i.imgur.com/52PQ6.png)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Hololasima on March 25, 2012, 01:08:30 pm
Just one thing. On that second screen there is Olsen and he have "brreeein" above his head, but correct word is BRAIN  :-\

But i wish you good luck  ;)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Simon on March 25, 2012, 01:13:58 pm
Rascal sometimes it's good to go to sleep hehe, killing afk players doesn't make you pro btw, don't know if you knew that or not. But keep up the good work :)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: avv on March 25, 2012, 01:20:39 pm
We are just humble roleplayers acting as sleeping town inhabitants.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Crab_people on March 25, 2012, 01:45:02 pm
to be honest sot used many exploits at the begin so they bought 1rst base, caps exploits, tc lockers exploit, hinkley sience exploit and many other we dont know. they have bazilions of caps and you are selling your gausses for 50% base price to t-888. CS didnt rage quit, we just dont giv u fuck about tc pve when u didnt want to fight us just swarm us with tons of mercs and militia, so yes you won when u swarmed us with 50 mercs. now you are using bomb sneakers and militia when you are getting to lose. true cs have some problems but this is not you buisness and we dont care about your pro new players in sot who cant fight with out old sot. and they are so good they sold me 1k cola and 1k smokes for 10ca ;D hahaha!!! those polish players in sot are just guests in sot, not real sot and they are acting like small kids. they allways use sneakers never pvp builds with out permision of t-888 ;D hahaha. sot is good but they are better with exploits  8)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: T-888 on March 25, 2012, 01:46:03 pm
..... and any member who floods these forums with pointless trolling, get a life, its a video game nobody is that upset nobody ....

Excuse me ? Nobody from us are complaining , nor upset. We just don't understand what's with everyone else ?

We like strategy , we like RPG's and this is Fonline were playing. We love to be organized , be flexible in new strategies , be in control the whole process is fun for us and we don't spend more time than we should as anyone else who plays this game , since there is nothing much to do anymore. Playing as a team is fun , on top of that we have awesome superiors and team consists of very cool people :) . I don't know about others , but i'm enjoying this game very much when there is a chance to play it.

It's interesting how people talk about us , with such an attitude like they know everything , our intentions , what we do , when we do it. Just shut up please , quit your whining.

....
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6258/garbagek.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/201/garbagek.jpg/)

Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: OG on March 25, 2012, 01:52:35 pm
The misinformation on this topic is HUGE like really people dont know shit posting random BS all day.

AND THIS i know i know he is very ''smart'' but this post just made my day

You may be good at a video game but you suck at life.........rest of the BS

First sign of butthurt is mentioning RL. I kept reading the topic thought i should not have... Why is this topic still not closed is beyond me. To me it seems like SoT is trying to talk with a brick wall.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: pti4ka on March 25, 2012, 02:04:57 pm
They fight like bitches they don't attack

You talking too much about our actions and forget about YOUR action today.

Here some small screenshots whaich I screen at this morning. (It closely demonstrated your "power" and "tactic")

 (http://clip2net.com/clip/m90576/thumb640/1332676895-3ac35-96kb.jpg) (http://clip2net.com/s/1Jwwb)
http://clip2net.com/s/1Jwwb   
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ps. we had at least 2-3 guys in our TC today, goodluck bro.


About TC: I really hope that it will be fixed and we will get pvp-action instead propaganda-butthurts on forums etc.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Surf on March 25, 2012, 02:42:26 pm
The usual faction dumbfucker-y ends now or the thread gets locked.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: OG on March 25, 2012, 03:21:31 pm
The usual faction dumbfucker-y ends now or the thread gets locked.

The amount of BS that this topic consists of is far too much. Close it while it doesnt lay eggs
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on March 25, 2012, 04:35:34 pm
The amount of BS that this topic consists of is far too much. Close it while it doesnt lay eggs
I agree, it's people just raging about faction wars over a town.
I don't understand none of this.
and WTF is toilet wars? are people throwing toilets at each other?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: manero on March 25, 2012, 05:15:28 pm
"Gang Issues

A place to get mad. And to settle down things."


Everything looks fine for me.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Wichura on March 25, 2012, 05:19:25 pm
(http://clip2net.com/clip/m90576/thumb640/1332676895-3ac35-96kb.jpg) (http://clip2net.com/s/1Jwwb)
http://clip2net.com/s/1Jwwb   
How do you get transparent walls?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Bantz on March 25, 2012, 05:27:32 pm
How do you get transparent walls?
Just log in, type ~abuse "exchangetiles" and there you go.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: OG on March 25, 2012, 05:30:28 pm
I agree, it's people just raging about faction wars over a town.
I don't understand none of this.
and WTF is toilet wars? are people throwing toilets at each other?

As i understand from this topic(from the last 2-3 pages i will get brain dmg if i read the whole topic). Is that pretty much everyone is against SoT as one big swarm 100 players vs 30(<- see what i did there i pulled the numbers out of my ass because i dont know the reality and i am not saying that is the truth. But most of this very ''smart'' players here are saying that they know everything about anything and throwing BS around as if it was a FACT.)

OK now back to the topic(if there is such) Toiletcontrol'er is a definition that defines a player who sits in a building and thus gains the ''magical'' influence in a certain town. A lot of times as it seems players are being found near or in a toilet when they do toiletcontroling.

I hope it helped.


Just log in, type ~abuse "exchangetiles" and there you go.

Use brains and all good
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Rain on March 25, 2012, 05:48:53 pm
I recognize SOT the ability to organize quickly and stand strong and unite as a team....but.
1-They only troll:there is no fun in dueling any of his member.They come back with proxy swarm anyway,no matter your number,quality of build,strategy.And figure what,they win,then troll (can't show it because i just bought a new PC,but anybody knows anyway.)
2 - average intelligence of the SOT player: APE. They use the exact same builds with exact same hp.It's like fighting bots.
3- Massive exploit of no CD relogging.
4-Lack of strong enemies make them reign and troll without being stopped.Shitty TC gameplay makes impossible to sort a fine group of people and kick their ass-
 
If anyone organizes an anti-sot alliance,please PM me.I will be glad to face them without proxies,without sneak builds,without exploiting mechanics.
 
Fighting the badguys has never been so boring and useless like this season.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: John Porno on March 25, 2012, 05:54:13 pm
actually we all could enjoy some nice pvp, as I see it we should have 5 active factions on the server with around 10 fighters each.

The absence of a global tc notification and the butthurtness about influence is just preventing people from actually playing this game, not as it's *meant to be by the devs* with influence afk'ing but the way the game *should* be meant to be with pvp fights.

Throughout most of last seasonw e had 2 major factions fighting each other, at some point we had a trinity or rouges, cs and tttla and action everyday.

Now we have 5 factions with equal numbers ready to fight and nothing happens. I also see a strange lack of Sot on actual battlefields lately, the recent fights only included bbs, hawks and us.

PS: there is no need for an anti SoT alliance. Their numbers have dropped, like the numbers of every gang did and we have reached a common ground already.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: OG on March 25, 2012, 06:02:38 pm
''I have a massive butthurt on SoT i do not want to improve in pvp IF i dont want to improve no one can'' This is how it looks like for me. (My opinion thus not a fact, most probably the ones who are posting on this topic wont read further than ''butthurt'' xD)

actually we all could enjoy some nice pvp, as I see it we should have 5 active factions on the server with around 10 fighters each.

The absence of a global tc notification and the butthurtness about influence is just preventing people from actually playing this game, not as it's *meant to be by the devs* with influence afk'ing but the way the game *should* be meant to be with pvp fights.

Throughout most of last seasonw e had 2 major factions fighting each other, at some point we had a trinity or rouges, cs and tttla and action everyday.

Now we have 5 factions with equal numbers ready to fight and nothing happens. I also see a strange lack of Sot on actual battlefields lately, the recent fights only included bbs, hawks and us.

PS: there is no need for an anti SoT alliance. Their numbers have dropped, like the numbers of every gang did and we have reached a common ground already.


If I didnt know better i would think you are from SoT because you make sense.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: avv on March 25, 2012, 06:09:23 pm
Now we have 5 factions with equal numbers ready to fight and nothing happens.

That's because there's no good enough reason to enter anywhere first. It's fun to scout and attack people who are already inside but standing as bait isn't that interesting or profitable.

Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Rain on March 25, 2012, 06:23:17 pm
The real problem is:Is i logged on,where the f...k do i go to enjoy some good pvp..?
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Wichura on March 25, 2012, 06:37:44 pm
Just log in, type ~abuse "exchangetiles" and there you go.
Nah, I mean seriously. It's all fair play, no-cheat and so on pew-pew stuff, right? So what's with the transparent walls? It looks useful as hell, tell me moar please.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 25, 2012, 06:41:34 pm
Nah, I mean seriously. It's all fair play, no-cheat and so on pew-pew stuff, right? So what's with the transparent walls? It looks useful as hell, tell me moar please.
Cheaters (Like every single old gang out there, cs sot rogue whateverdafuck TTTLA) change some shit graphics in their clients to remove all walls.

Therefore, you can go into anywhere, and see stashes without challenge.   ;)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: gr1m099 on March 25, 2012, 07:34:15 pm
The usual faction dumbfucker-y ends now or the thread gets locked.

Seriously who the hell goes in every topic and post their pictures and say how great they are at a video game in every topic.

Of course things are always one sided, they do die we do kill them at times but they just fast log or add more militia.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: ToxiCAVE on March 25, 2012, 07:55:42 pm
well thier town their rules. same happened with bhh and mercs militia
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Wichura on March 25, 2012, 08:06:01 pm
Cheaters (Like every single old gang out there, cs sot rogue whateverdafuck TTTLA) change some shit graphics in their clients to remove all walls.

Therefore, you can go into anywhere, and see stashes without challenge.   ;)
Sounds pretty simple, thanks.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Marko on March 25, 2012, 08:23:21 pm
Wichura, WHAT!?? You mean some players are cheating so badly that they fix it so they can see through walls!?! They could see their PvP enemies that way! Can they shoot them through walls too!? Can they find blueprints that way? This game just got way better if that's true, for now i'm not just playing on Nightmare mode with players set to Easy. No, this would be me playing on Nightmare mode with a bunch of players set to godmode.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Wichura on March 25, 2012, 08:30:20 pm
I strongly recommend you to learn how to set such transparent walls in your client. Advantage from this is pretty obvious and worth to try for sure. Dunno if legal, but since one can share screenshots with these, I believe everything is fine. As it is, of course :>
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Marko on March 25, 2012, 08:46:56 pm
See but this is the first time i ever heard that could be done. I know about the custom interfaces that have transparent windows, but never heard until now that some players see through walls.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: gr1m099 on March 25, 2012, 08:58:36 pm
Wichura, WHAT!?? You mean some players are cheating so badly that they fix it so they can see through walls!?! They could see their PvP enemies that way! Can they shoot them through walls too!? Can they find blueprints that way? This game just got way better if that's true, for now i'm not just playing on Nightmare mode with players set to Easy. No, this would be me playing on Nightmare mode with a bunch of players set to godmode.

You can see loot but can't see enemies. The advantage to such cheats is somebody put something on the ground or if you see where somebody died and loot drop you somewhat know where they are.

I play on hell difficulty no interface no gay wall cheating, the game fresh from the installer agiasnt other players who use every dirty tirck and tactics in the book to win on top of being experienced players with good builds.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Bantz on March 25, 2012, 08:59:20 pm
See but this is the first time i ever heard that could be done. I know about the custom interfaces that have transparent windows, but never heard until now that some players see through walls.
You cant see the enemies through it, you cant shoot through it, you can however find hidden things behind walls, you can remove them and ceillings btw so you can use awareness and coloring on people etc.

Just fiddle around with the tiles graphic in master.dat, replace them with one pixel and you have yourself semitransparent walls. With lot of work you can also make player countours biger, graphic for objects on the ground biger and so on.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: OG on March 25, 2012, 09:20:20 pm
Seriously who the hell goes in every topic and post their pictures and say how great they are at a video game in every topic.

Of course things are always one sided, they do die we do kill them at times but they just fast log or add more militia.

Thats why you need to show screens to back up your statement which right now is pulled out of your ass. And sentence like ''oh everyone knows it'' wtf who is everyone??? Your imaginary friends?

Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: gr1m099 on March 25, 2012, 09:46:45 pm
Thats why you need to show screens to back up your statement which right now is pulled out of your ass. And sentence like ''oh everyone knows it'' wtf who is everyone??? Your imaginary friends?

What the hell are you even talking about and random babbling on about now?

I don't need to prove anything by posting a bunch of gay screenshots writing hahahaha to everybody. I don't have a wierd obsession showing off a screen shot of dead enemies on the forums. I don't even take screen shots half the time unless its something lolz. Being good and half cheating at a video and posting screenshots doesn't mean anythig in life it doesn't get you paid, it doesn't get you a award, and it sure as hell doesn't get you a noble peace prize.

I'm not here to prove anything to anyone I just play the game and try to have fun, but there is always some half witted fucktard who is good at the game and feels the need brag because of their own personal flaws in life like being born with a less brian cells than the rest of the population.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: OG on March 25, 2012, 10:15:06 pm
What the hell are you even talking about and random babbling on about now?

I don't need to prove anything by posting a bunch of gay screenshots writing hahahaha to everybody. I don't have a wierd obsession showing off a screen shot of dead enemies on the forums. I don't even take screen shots half the time unless its something lolz. Being good and half cheating at a video and posting screenshots doesn't mean anythig in life it doesn't get you paid, it doesn't get you a award, and it sure as hell doesn't get you a noble peace prize.

I'm not here to prove anything to anyone I just play the game and try to have fun, but there is always some half witted fucktard who is good at the game and feels the need brag because of their own personal flaws in life like being born with a less brian cells than the rest of the population.

I just got brain damage like really. wtf...oO
OK maybe then stop writing on forum because you obviously dont know anything. I dont understand people how ''smart'' can you get? IF you think that SoT is cheating then ask GM that is why they are there for after all. You cant just accuse people of cheating. I understand that you go on your TS and say that SoT beat you only because of cheats, exploits and no true skill, that they are actually bunch of ncr nubs that you just cant beat. OK that is your opinion BUT you are writing in forum that everyone outside your TS can see, judging by rascal screens and pti4kas i see that they have given arguments that you just cant beat and you just spam random BS not giving arguments or anything at all that would be an answer not a butthurt post
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: gr1m099 on March 25, 2012, 10:33:21 pm
I just got brain damage like really. wtf...oO
OK maybe then stop writing on forum because you obviously dont know anything. I dont understand people how ''smart'' can you get? IF you think that SoT is cheating then ask GM that is why they are there for after all. You cant just accuse people of cheating. I understand that you go on your TS and say that SoT beat you only because of cheats, exploits and no true skill, that they are actually bunch of ncr nubs that you just cant beat. OK that is your opinion BUT you are writing in forum that everyone outside your TS can see, judging by rascal screens and pti4kas i see that they have given arguments that you just cant beat and you just spam random BS not giving arguments or anything at all that would be an answer not a butthurt post

I said half cheating, because they use transparent walls is what I was refering to. There isn't any cheats in this game just dual logging, deleteing some lines in .dll files to see loot behind walls and random scripts people make for crafting so they don't have to do repitivive tasks.

I would like to see you attempt to fight SoT in their hometown with your friends and see how much fun you have. You probably would get owned faster than we did. You couldn't fight these guys anyway so really go attempt be brave and see what happends before you start speaking out your ass and trolling people that they defeat.

They have militia and NPCs that fight on their side nobody seems to take that into consideration. Lets see... hmmm 1 picture is us going in blue suit ok we werent fully geared to kill militia ok easily killed by lasers, another is a dead sneaker scout saying something to troll, ok not really a fighter, I do not see anything particulary special.

When we went in full geared and weren't on laser snipers that generally aren't tank builds and stood in middle of residental and south they didn't enter until they had militia support because they were scared and knew they couldnt kill us without it. The militia killed us more than they did.

Ok you want to see the part they don't post
http://tinypic.com/r/29o4c9d/5

This was a good one I was surrounded by 10 npcs punching me and I was stuck, and she was shooting me with her sniper lol... And I still managed to kill her in 1 bursts then the militia got me.
http://i40.tinypic.com/149cqdv.jpg

I also killed one of their members o_0rambo blue suit and laser rifle but I took a screen shot when a laser pistol shot me so you don't see him dead. Why I don't take screen shots you move you finger and concentrate on something other than fighting some sneaker well come up and get you.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: OG on March 25, 2012, 11:17:21 pm
I said half cheating, because they use transparent walls is what I was refering to. There isn't any cheats in this game just dual logging, deleteing some lines in .dll files to see loot behind walls and random scripts people make for crafting so they don't have to do repitivive tasks.

I would like to see you attempt to fight SoT in their hometown with your friends and see how much fun you have. You probably would get owned faster than we did. You couldn't fight these guys anyway so really go attempt be brave and see what happends before you start speaking out your ass and trolling people that they defeat.

This was a good one I was surrounded by 10 npcs punching me and I was stuck, and she was shooting me with her sniper lol... And I still managed to kill her in 1 bursts then the militia got me.
http://i40.tinypic.com/149cqdv.jpg


First of all for me there is no ''half cheating''. It is only white and black no grey ether it is allowed or it is not.
Secondly again yes it is true me and my friends cant fight SoT because 1.they have far better xp. in this game 2.better builds 3.discipline 4.tactics. That would be like f cpt.Obvious observation right there.

Ok you want to see the part they don't post
http://tinypic.com/r/29o4c9d/5


What do you even mean by this??? Congratz on killing a sniper+bluesuit+rambo.....

Where is the screen that shows the exploiting, cheating, proxying, item spawning, caps dispenser, godlike npc that is everyone afraid of... and yes dont give me bs about milita i can kill it with my op exploit heavy handed char yes even mutant milita with some adjustments to the strategy that are different for regular milita. Can be killed with unarmed HH op build


Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Rage master on March 26, 2012, 01:18:13 am
Man stop crying, you are doing same when you Have town. It is sot town sot rules. Sot use exploits but they are good. Better Than most of u crying noobs. They fight how enemy let Them to fight. So if u get killed by sneakers you arent enemy for Them.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: gr1m099 on March 26, 2012, 02:34:22 am
First of all for me there is no ''half cheating''. It is only white and black no grey ether it is allowed or it is not.
Secondly again yes it is true me and my friends cant fight SoT because 1.they have far better xp. in this game 2.better builds 3.discipline 4.tactics. That would be like f cpt.Obvious observation right there.


What do you even mean by this??? Congratz on killing a sniper+bluesuit+rambo.....

Where is the screen that shows the exploiting, cheating, proxying, item spawning, caps dispenser, godlike npc that is everyone afraid of... and yes dont give me bs about milita i can kill it with my op exploit heavy handed char yes even mutant milita with some adjustments to the strategy that are different for regular milita. Can be killed with unarmed HH op build

Go there find out, and see what they do then I can say you well have my respect to troll. You are afraid we are brave and die but we have the diginity to say at least we were not cowards and attempted it.

There is only one thing I was refering to as "half-cheating" and could be questionable is the whole wall thing. The reality of it is people can just buy an unarmed mutant for 100 caps and arm with a rocket launcher or laser rifle add it to militia then it gives them more health points and they becoming good using weapons.

Yes congrats to me killing a sniper blue suit rambo troll, that is no differnt than their current screen shot of us ramboing blue suit with laser rifles, and their other pictures of killing idlers.

Man stop crying, you are doing same when you Have town. It is sot town sot rules. Sot use exploits but they are good. Better Than most of u crying noobs. They fight how enemy let Them to fight. So if u get killed by sneakers you arent enemy for Them.


Yes lets just turn this into the brown nose and suck SoT's dick thread.

Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: John Porno on March 26, 2012, 03:03:52 am
Grim, nobody outside bhh gives a damn about what happens in bh, it only ever was some bluesuits fucking around.

Now on to the actual problem and I try to make it as short as possible.

Members of sot and cs have been banned in the past for proxying. CS are the most notorious bug exploiters but it also applies to sot to a lesser degree. I know from personal experience that an actual proxy is hard to detect in tc, at least by a gm it seems.

Point is, there is no reason not to expect sot to use proxies for c4 bombing because proxies have been used in the past. It doesn't matter if they are still in use now, but they have to blame themselves for the bad reputation, not the forum trolls (mostly, anyways).

Now the way I see it for my team, though I dont expect it to be any different for other teams, is that we first die in TC due to a bad mistake on our side and people naturally are frustrated and some will go ahead and blame the "cheats" and "aboozes" for it, trying to compensate for lack of skill. There have been very few fights where I could say in hindsight "just a few more people and we would have won". Usually we lack leadership and blame it on proxies.

The results of that can be seen on the forums everyday.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: gr1m099 on March 26, 2012, 03:30:51 am
Grim, nobody outside bhh gives a damn about what happens in bh, it only ever was some bluesuits fucking around.

Now on to the actual problem and I try to make it as short as possible.

Members of sot and cs have been banned in the past for proxying. CS are the most notorious bug exploiters but it also applies to sot to a lesser degree. I know from personal experience that an actual proxy is hard to detect in tc, at least by a gm it seems.

Point is, there is no reason not to expect sot to use proxies for c4 bombing because proxies have been used in the past. It doesn't matter if they are still in use now, but they have to blame themselves for the bad reputation, not the forum trolls (mostly, anyways).

Now the way I see it for my team, though I dont expect it to be any different for other teams, is that we first die in TC due to a bad mistake on our side and people naturally are frustrated and some will go ahead and blame the "cheats" and "aboozes" for it, trying to compensate for lack of skill. There have been very few fights where I could say in hindsight "just a few more people and we would have won". Usually we lack leadership and blame it on proxies.

The results of that can be seen on the forums everyday.

Why you say me like I am the one making a big deal about broken hill? But thank you nobody gives a shit about broken hills, and if that is the case nobody gives a shit about sot's vicotories and their gay ass screenshots and I own I so good bull shit when they kill other factions there. I never blamed anything on any cheats, I say one thing then everybody blows it out of propertion and twists it around maybe a job in the news industry would be good for a lot of you?

You know what we blamed it on, militia and the stupid game mechanics that you can add them to militia with a cheap 100 caps unarmed mutant and equip it with lasers and rocket launchers. 3/4 the frustration is the games mechanics itself not so much the players. I don't really give a shit if people use proxy and its not even needed any more with fast log. 1/4 the frustration is the the attitude of players of this faction.

There isn't anything that sot does that is anything special. I have enough combat characters them leved to fast log 5-6 times, but majority of people are lazy only level 1 fighting character and can never organized a fast log attack properly. C4 bugs me becuase I am lazy to go blue print hunting and I can't do it back to them without spending a month trying to find blueprint or spend some ridiculous amount of caps which I also don't feel like farming for. And the town control system is total shit and don't feel like idling for a week. The town control system was more balanced last wipe because 1 faction doesn't hold a town since the 2nd day of the wipe and it was faced past enough where another faction can go in and be on defense.

And you know I never complained about anything they are known for all I said was half cheating that is it.

I don't even think its a big deal they delete walls to see loot behind walls that is why I said half cheating, somewhat cheating kind of cheating its kind of cheating but it doesn't give that big of advantage to say OMFG WALL HAX BAN! kind of cheating.

But you know John Porno the truth of it is your entire alliance rage quit to go play minecraft and you do not have the numbers that you once had. You are small fighting faction now and you know you called me a nobody once, with the same exact attitude sot has now. Now your faction is the nobody who holds no towns and has no numbers. Nobody gives a shit either what your faction does now also.

I am a freelancer I speak for myself and not the factions I play with I am not in any single faction I just go join up for the with hawks or bhh. And for most part nobody really gives shit if they lost to sot or any fight for that matter its usually just fun to go pvp.

But everybody keep trolling me, please do continue I love to argue and flame. And have no problem with getting warned and banned for what I say.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: manero on March 26, 2012, 08:47:03 am
That's because there's no good enough reason to enter anywhere first. It's fun to scout and attack people who are already inside but standing as bait isn't that interesting or profitable.

That's it. There is no point to enter first. It's god damn stupid. If you enter as a first, enemy can scout you, move all alts, think about tactic, scout you one more time, attack with scout sneakers, bring more alts and after that... Attack and in 99% win! In previous season they had for that 10-15 minutes and now? Infinity? ;D

But on the other hand if you not enter first who will?  ::) Gang which holds town don't have to.

This is how it looks from my(BBS) point of view in Redding. Im sure it looks the same from CS in Broken Hills. Almost every enter is lose but if we not enter there will be no pvp. So we enter...

Ofc we(BBS) can sit in Modoc, hide bombers inside, log off all alts above Modoc, buy militia and wait for idiots who will enter... but it sucks. It's boring, prove nothing and it's not pvp.

Conclusion from my cry post :'( is that TC update is necessary ;)

PS.

gr1m099 shut up, you spam good thread. Open your own SoT hatin topic and spam there.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Roachor on March 26, 2012, 09:04:33 am
I care about broken hills, it's a symbol of racial equality  :'(
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: pti4ka on March 26, 2012, 09:56:44 am
I spent few minutes to read your posts, gr1m099, And what I see:
Gay ass, suck, stupid game mechanics, bugs, lazy, cheaters, exploiting, proxying, caps dispenser, npc, militia, npc...

1) It's not a honor to told that your team something like "lazy fuckers". Or they are not reading forum and you can offend your friends on their back ?

2) You are always cry that npc or militia killing you. But you should understand that it's not a SoT problem. We all play in one game with one mechanics and equal conditions.

3) As I spoke before, you have a choice:
      a) Play on Hinkley and kill NCR players without any problems and stuff disappearing.
      b) Play and die in real PvP.
  You are week, But anyway it's not a reason to put shit on people heads on forum.

4) I saw words which you using in your posts and really surprising that you want to get some understanding from other people from forum community.

That's all want a want to say about your crying. You can hate me but try to wait few minutes and think about what a say.

ps. You have nice new avatar  :) You "lazy" (as you nemed your friends) team were able to kill my bluesuit scout! )))

So first of all try to give more respect for people around.  ;)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Simon on March 26, 2012, 10:01:39 am
I agree with Manero, he knows what he is talking about, listen to him, I share the same view point as him and avv there.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: pti4ka on March 26, 2012, 10:26:21 am
Conclusion from my cry post :'( is that TC update is necessary ;)
Fully agreed, all waiting for it  :)

BUT

This is how it looks from my(BBS) point of view in Redding. Im sure it looks the same from CS in Broken Hills. Almost every enter is lose but if we not enter there will be no pvp. So we enter...

Ofc we(BBS) can sit in Modoc, hide bombers inside, log off all alts above Modoc, buy militia and wait for idiots who will enter... but it sucks. It's boring, prove nothing and it's not pvp.

Maybe I'm mistaking about this phrases but it looks like you want to say that we are playing only in Redding and BH.

Manero, You know it clear that if we will see enemies/militia/action or some another action in each city we will come immidietly (As we had fight in Gecko Mogoc etc...). 
So we are making action in Redding and BH and waiting for your movies in Modoc, for example ;)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: T-888 on March 26, 2012, 10:53:33 am
is that we first die in TC due to a bad mistake on our side and people naturally are frustrated and some will go ahead and blame the "cheats" and "aboozes" for it, trying to compensate for lack of skill.

Everyone tries rationalize the loss , what bugs me is for some it's just another excuse like you said " cheaters , abusers." Failure is just an opportunity to improve , be better next time until something actually happens , don't talk shit about it and keep it to myself. I remember us dying in den once , they made a screen and i have already seen in multiple times shown by other faction members that are bragging how great they are and we are nothing else but cheaters and exploiters and what not unicorns ...

then again when we win square and fair or use some new strategy like C4 bombing that initiates the assault , there's always another excuse and nobody remembers those 95% times they die because they just lack pure skill , officially that's all written down on some excuses. No wonder why they keep playing the same , they do everything the same each single time as the server progresses with updates , i can't believe how stubborn can you be if your team like has died the past 95% of times , how it is possible to talk shit on forum and keep up any decent moral that next fight they will win ?

Excuses , excuses and more garbage talk is the answer.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Kilgore on March 26, 2012, 11:34:55 am
Okay, so can we stick to the topic? This was an interesting topic before some people started to post shit about some gang and some various trolls started to post various pictures putting more shit on other gangs. Btw grim please have mercy and erm, go with your crying somewhere else, maybe some "I HATE SOT!!!!!1111 OMFG!!!!" topic.

Btw do we have any moderator here? Or they won't make anything about troll posts and their authors but only close thread when it becomes "too hot"?

And the topic was:

What is current political situation achieved on this moment ?

We have like:
- BBS defending modoc, some low and hi-equipment random fights there with hawks/CS
- SOT defending redding and BH, fighting with BBS, CS and occasionally C88/TTTLA(?) in redding and CS(?)/BHH in BH
- Klamath being camped by some chinese faction during the day and the fists (sometimes backed up by SOT?) in the evenings/nights
- random fights in new reno between bbs/ c88/tttla(?) / hawks(?)
- random fights in gecko
- TSAR appearing in den but didn't see many of them there

based on actions I've seen in last days, I didn't mention some gangs that I don't know..
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Skycast on March 26, 2012, 12:04:50 pm
- Klamath being camped by some chinese faction during the day and the fists (sometimes backed up by SOT?) in the evenings/nights
No, we just saw you in Den and come there but you moved in klamath and we moved too but there we fail in tactics and retreat  ;D
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Nexxos on March 26, 2012, 12:45:06 pm
Although this is the Gang Issues subforum, it doesn't mean unmoderated section where you can insult / openly show your hate every post. This will get you banned in a blink of an eye. I gave bans / warnings for the people who earned them, congratulations for them.

You can openly discuss the current situation on 2238 server here, as that's what the topic is about, but I'll remind you to stick to the forum rules, many of you should read them (or reread).
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Termap on March 26, 2012, 02:00:17 pm
The reason for all these conflicting topics is only inability of Devs, who might know about the problem more than two years and never did anything about it - "incoming of new element to the game for the suppression of the swarm, give to all same chance". Instead of prewipe balanced game, they ruined her now. Do not be surprised that Gr1m is angry. Also some arguments of SoTs  about tactics and innocence are ridiculous as mechanics this game. :)

Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: falloutdude on March 26, 2012, 02:52:56 pm
- TSAR appearing in den but didn't see many of them there
we are there kilgore just being more quiet to keep it more "safe" for slavers and such. whole point of us taking den is for rp with current system will not happen sense the dead lock between us and sot is allways retardedly close. we stay quiet for now but we willl be loud soon when tc system changes to something more then win town, lose town, win town, lost town. btw congrats on modoc.  ;)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: seb910 on March 26, 2012, 04:00:00 pm
Fully agreed, all waiting for it  :)
Manero, You know it clear that if we will see enemies/militia/action or some another action in each city we will come immidietly (As we had fight in Gecko Mogoc etc...). 
So we are making action in Redding and BH and waiting for your movies in Modoc, for example ;)
Ye, but moving 5 alts of each player takes too long so you not always have enough time for it and sometimes you are too late  :D

You people speak here like SOT always wins. Like they never lose any fight which is not true of course. I more prefer fight with SOT and their funny tricks cuz you can always think something up for defend yourself against it. Different thing is swarm, there is not much option for win the swarm, so I would like to say swarmers are cheaters more then say SOT are.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: avv on March 26, 2012, 04:55:06 pm
New tc will help something but dominators gonna dominate.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Crab_people on March 26, 2012, 04:59:48 pm
han, towns will just split to bbs,cs,sot,havks
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: McLooter on March 26, 2012, 06:10:05 pm
This game is extremely dramatic.  ;D
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Jotisz on March 26, 2012, 06:28:25 pm
I usually keep away from threads like this but...
The reason for all these conflicting topics is only inability of Devs, who might know about the problem more than two years and never did anything about it - "incoming of new element to the game for the suppression of the swarm, give to all same chance". Instead of prewipe balanced game, they ruined her now. Do not be surprised that Gr1m is angry. Also some arguments of SoTs  about tactics and innocence are ridiculous as mechanics this game. :)
Ok well as I remember there was a closed beta. Its quite easy to blame devs for all thing. But then why did they made a close beta? Reason simply so they can make something that will work well. Personally I would rather blame the cb testers then the devs. After all there were quite a lot of bugs that were never mentioned during cbt and were easily noticeable.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 26, 2012, 07:37:30 pm
I usually keep away from threads like this but...Ok well as I remember there was a closed beta. Its quite easy to blame devs for all thing. But then why did they made a close beta? Reason simply so they can make something that will work well. Personally I would rather blame the cb testers then the devs. After all there were quite a lot of bugs that were never mentioned during cbt and were easily noticeable.
That's because devs are bad judges of character, no offense. :(

All major exploits remained in game because cbt players made it so.  And so they were abused in OBT.  And now we have this "SoT" with unusually unlimited supplies considering.

Not bashing on SoT only, as many others did this I am sure ;).
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 26, 2012, 09:44:35 pm
I spent few minutes to read your posts, gr1m099, And what I see:
1) It's not a honor to told that your team something like "lazy fuckers". Or they are not reading forum and you can offend your friends on their back ?

2) You are always cry that npc or militia killing you. But you should understand that it's not a SoT problem. We all play in one game with one mechanics and equal conditions.

3) As I spoke before, you have a choice:
      a) Play on Hinkley and kill NCR players without any problems and stuff disappearing.
      b) Play and die in real PvP.
  You are week, But anyway it's not a reason to put shit on people heads on forum.

4) I saw words which you using in your posts and really surprising that you want to get some understanding from other people from forum community.

That's all want a want to say about your crying. You can hate me but try to wait few minutes and think about what a say.

ps. You have nice new avatar  :) You "lazy" (as you nemed your friends) team were able to kill my bluesuit scout! )))

So first of all try to give more respect for people around.  ;)

Actually its not really backstabbing anybody it was one thing that was discussed its not like anybody is talking shit about anybody, many discussions have been discussed about defeats and it is one thing, people don't like to level characters, and don't fast log properly.

We just killed all your militia in broken hills with 4 people, it is not difficult to kill militia. Its difficult when you get jumped by players while trying to pull the militia. And then somebody goes OMG LOOK AT MAH SCREENSHOT AND MAH MAD SKIZZLES is probably whats pissing off gr1m. He was drunk anyways and probably not best idea to write on forums when drunk. Its just the town control system is really bad that there is no alternating factions to play defense while another one to attack like last wipe.

2 factions hold a town no militia, 1 faction can just walk in stand in town for a minute and steal all the militia.


But anyways back to topic:
So it seems oliver's faction went inactive doesn't hold klamath anymore. And we have a world of new order which is chinese faction. And the other towns its same news. Not really any new factions I think as far as faction names go there is nothing new.

Hopefully we get a good update, and more people come back to play game, Game has been quiet no huge action wars lately.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: OG on March 26, 2012, 09:46:14 pm
As far as i know there is a very specific bug that enables capturing town in matter of a minutes so very soon yes soon we will see that towns are shifting their legions to one faction to other in very very short time
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Swarm on March 26, 2012, 09:56:26 pm
As far as i know there is a very specific bug that enables capturing town in matter of a minutes so very soon yes soon we will see that towns are shifting their legions to one faction to other in very very short time
Its not a bug, its just part of the mechanics 1 faction has 500 another has 499, the 499 faction goes in makes it 500 then they have town only have to gain 1 influence then vice versa.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Kilgore on March 26, 2012, 10:03:20 pm
Game has been quiet no huge action wars lately.
Huge battles suck, and there is a lot of action lately, every day.

Word of New Order attacked us today in Modoc. Good to see some new gang in action.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Dark Angel on March 26, 2012, 10:43:36 pm
Server down for one week  broken our faction, because lot of guys stopped playing. But now we are going back and soon and possible Klamath should be our. See you on TC.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: ToxiCAVE on March 30, 2012, 12:29:54 am
i am concider...where are havks and vsb aliance? right now there is only cs,sot and bbs
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Frenchy on March 30, 2012, 06:14:04 am
My opinion based on SOT ;

Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Termap on March 30, 2012, 07:30:27 am
My opinion based on SOT:
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: McLooter on March 30, 2012, 07:38:07 am
lol
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Srogi on March 30, 2012, 08:45:50 am
i am concider...where are havks and vsb aliance? right now there is only cs,sot and bbs

Hawks aren't allied with vsb and they are still very active.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: OG on March 30, 2012, 09:47:04 am
I like how someone took out of his/her/it ass or his/her/it friends ass that Voland (as far as i know he is russian) helps out a fellow russian dominant faction (SoT). First give proof or stfu with your accusations. I could say the same about Nexxos, Shangalar, Surf Solar, JovankaB, Izual, Gorlak, i have no proof that they are helping their fellow faction like Hawks, VSB, TTTLA, C88, BBS, BHH+TSAR(F ''SMART'' trolls i want to know where such people come from like really. HOW CAN YOU THINK THAT WAY? WHAT KIND OF NUCLEAR BUTTHURT DO YOU HAVE? CAN YOU STOP TROLLING AND GIVE SOME F PROOF FOR ONCE?), WNO (the cheines guys) IF they are good strong faction there is no way that they could have done it themselves.There must be higher power that has given the small meaningless man the Higher tech. to suppress his fellow man.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Skycast on March 30, 2012, 10:35:10 am
My opinion based on SOT ;
I prepare your new logo.

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2479/tsarcouncil2.png)
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Srogi on March 30, 2012, 11:12:25 am
I like how someone took out of his/her/it ass or his/her/it friends ass that Voland (as far as i know he is russian) helps out a fellow russian dominant faction (SoT). First give proof or stfu with your accusations. I could say the same about Nexxos, Shangalar, Surf Solar, JovankaB, Izual, Gorlak, i have no proof that they are helping their fellow faction like Hawks, VSB, TTTLA, C88, BBS, BHH+TSAR(F ''SMART'' trolls i want to know where such people come from like really. HOW CAN YOU THINK THAT WAY? WHAT KIND OF NUCLEAR BUTTHURT DO YOU HAVE? CAN YOU STOP TROLLING AND GIVE SOME F PROOF FOR ONCE?), WNO (the cheines guys) IF they are good strong faction there is no way that they could have done it themselves.There must be higher power that has given the small meaningless man the Higher tech. to suppress his fellow man.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/dfqmv.jpg)


I never read a single post where people were accusing GMs of helping factions and making them overpowered.
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: jacky. on March 30, 2012, 11:27:29 am
Rage moar! Sure sot are cheaters but they can fight, stop crying and start fighting
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: OG on March 30, 2012, 12:03:25 pm
I never read a single post where people were accusing GMs of helping factions and making them overpowered.


They are usually deleted instantly so no wonder there that you have not seen any such topics made
Title: Re: Situation on 2238
Post by: Nexxos on March 30, 2012, 01:44:36 pm
What a fucking mess.

This just shows that this community can't play nice. I'll give you some tips to improve fun for everyone, but the odds are heavily against me, but whatever, I'm a nice guy.

- Your team lost? Ok, deal with it, don't lower yourself to cheater level, cheaters will be banned eventually.
- Enemy has a bigger swarm? Fine, don't reduce yourself to the cheater level to beat them, wait until they have less people, then try again.
- Your team lost? Hey, here's a tip which would increase the relationship levels with both competing factions: "Hey dudes, great match. Wanna do it again? We could do some more pvp if you want."

Here's what shouldn't be done:

- omg fucking noob swarm fuck we will get bigger swarm
- cry moar noob hahaha noobs
- fucking noobs fuck fuck
- XYZ are cheaters, we start using cheats also noobs

These will only provoke more flame and trolling. If PVP is what most of you want, then this is certainly not the way for getting more pvp.

Oh, but many of you won't even read this! tl;dr! Might as well put a lock to this damn cesspool.