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Title: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: toothpix on February 08, 2012, 08:21:30 am
Bloody Mess went from a fun trait to a negative one, because armors get destroyed by violent death animations. Who lacks violent animations anyway with so many snipers around. So maybe it could be changed to a "Bloodless Death" instead, lowering the chance of violent death animations or removing them completely. Maybe with a trade-off of 5-10% damage resistance to target for example.
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: Boon Lived on February 08, 2012, 10:04:19 am
All traits have good and bad effects.

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fun

Theres the 'good' part. (What it's picked for)

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armors get destroyed by violent death animations

And theres the bad part.
If you can't live with the bad parts, don't pick it.

I think armors already did this last session, except now it also affects PvE.
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: Michaelh139 on February 08, 2012, 12:31:25 pm
Bloody mess is  supposed to make crazy animation only.  There is no actual gameplay effect.  But equipment caused to break because of it is affecting gameplay.  Thus this is obviously a bug that needs a bit of fixing.
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: Wallace on February 08, 2012, 07:50:52 pm
From what i know it's not a bug... It's feature...
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: snailbeast on February 09, 2012, 07:28:18 am
From what i know it's not a bug... It's feature...
the question is why to use this feature. It`s useless.
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: Handyman on February 09, 2012, 08:52:18 am
hmm you got burned by Flamer...
Yeay New 100% combat armor yeay !

NOT
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: набегат on February 09, 2012, 11:56:58 am
hmm you got burned by Flamer...
Yeay New 100% combat armor yeay !

NOT

well, thats a good subject for a trait:

You have the capacity to asssasinate your victims, leaving there belongings unscratched.
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: Perteks on February 09, 2012, 12:03:29 pm
well, thats a good subject for a trait:

You have the capacity to asssasinate your victims, leaving there belongings unscratched.
You miss negatives for it
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: Michaelh139 on February 09, 2012, 12:07:20 pm
You miss negatives for it
  But because of this you tend to try and hit where it won't touch anything but the victim.  Thus you have a harder time getting a hit in than others.
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: Perteks on February 09, 2012, 12:11:04 pm
Finesse negative effect huh not bad idea
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: Michaelh139 on February 09, 2012, 09:32:58 pm
Actually I was thinking give a permanent -% to hit.
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: Wallace on February 09, 2012, 10:55:22 pm
the question is why to use this feature. It`s useless.

Of course it's useless! You think i thought of implementing this?
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: набегат on February 10, 2012, 12:17:15 pm
Actually I was thinking give a permanent -% to hit.

Good idea and makes a lot of sens: you are aiming to hit the flish not the armor.

maybe make it unavailable with bursts
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: GroeneAppel on February 10, 2012, 12:40:51 pm
Good idea and makes a lot of sens: you are aiming to hit the flish not the armor.

maybe make it unavailable with bursts

Hmm we are getting somewhere. Why don't we combine it.

A -% to your critical chance. and it's impossible to burst in trade for undamaged armor. Does this make it a bad trait? no it doesn't This is a fairly friendly trait for TB single fastshot builds. And for loners aswell.
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: Wallace on February 10, 2012, 02:21:44 pm
Imho i doubt that devs will leave mechanics of armors condition intact...

So until it has a final version there's no room yet for perks (unless the perks would be REALLY easy to implement)
Title: Re: Bloody Mess = bad (breaks equipment)
Post by: anarchclaw on February 11, 2012, 10:15:45 pm
hmm you got burned by Flamer...
Yeay New 100% combat armor yeay !

NOT

a flamer's a flamer. the huge fireballs you're spouting from your cannon should inherently destroy the armor.

we're talking about BLOODY MESS