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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: Elvis on February 05, 2012, 12:48:26 am
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The actions of Dogs Of War could be considered harassment. I don't want to play because the Devs nor the GM's helped me. and what am I talking about? They Used my own alts. ( I dont know how they got the passwords ) stole the alts, wiped my bases, and well have harassed me for ages. Now because the Devs nor the GM's did not help me, I refuse to play, because I know they wont protect anyone from people stealing ALTs. I feel cheated, because I spent ages on those Alts. and very very angry.. I would be a fool to let this control me, hence why I wont play till they fix this criminal act.
**edit http://www.heraldsun.com.au/online-theft-earns-real-world-conviction/story-e6frfro0-1226259050268
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/dutch-supreme-court-forcing-teen-to-drop-virtual-objects-in-online-game-was-real-world-theft/2012/01/31/gIQACFzleQ_story.html
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I think this is posted in wrong section, maybe move it to 3D development or Tools&Modifications?
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omfg make beter password or change them at least 1 per month...and stop crying
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thanks Bantz, it is a some kind of exploit of the game, to steal people alts.
and red pants: Im not crying, Im warning people about the types of players we have, that is all.
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yes you are not crying...
may i have you atention...i refuse to play because i got robbed and bad gm/dev doesnt want to ban then and give my stuff back...please just hear yourself
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If you don't have anything to add, that contributes to the game or this thread, you're not helping, you're making this worse, and I'm not going to stop till I have justice. sorry, its how I live my life. too bad if you fucked me over, I'm gunning for you now. and it wont stop till you have payed for these crimes.
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(https://i.imgur.com/pvZeR.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/pvZeR.jpg)
RAGE!!! RAGE!!! RAGE!!!
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So Elvis someone hack Your account right? If yes i'm sure its not allowed and should be looked into by devs or gms. Being hacked is something very different than being in game robbed, killed, raped or wathever.
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Last session you got scammed by GMs, now is DoW
Post that here : http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?board=26.0
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but he want
(https://i.imgur.com/ku7ZN.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/ku7ZN.jpg)
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It's sad that there is a lot of abuse in game. Some via hacking, others using exploits in game, and others using poorly implemented features. I think however Evils you should go about gathering evidence and then burn them. Get on Irc talk to a gm in private, work with them then fry the bastards who are causing issues. All the GM's I've met that when talked to like an adult are very helpful and considerate.
As you can see from the other replies, people are very frightened of feelings. And anything that might take away from their free looting of weaker people is scary too. In either case, I wish you luck, and try to look past the fact that the point of this version of a game is simply to work hard so others can kill you and take it without much effort.
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... i think all that happned is when he was in dow he told one of them his password. he never changed it from then and has been useing same pass forever so its his owe fault. CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD MORON.
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or share it with us...;D i need more ca and drugs ;]
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How ever they came about my passwords, which I change often, is not the issue, its the fact, they stole my characters. that is wrong, why I wont play, and why I resent some members of the community, this is just a warning to new players, and others, that some players are willing to do anything for a bits and bytes on a screen. that is all.
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oh no!!! what a tragedy!!! you are quiting FO comunity?
noooooooooo!!!! my life is ruin :(:(:(:(:(:(
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alot of members of this community are not nice to anyone let alone their mother.. hence me being abused for losing out. so when I remember my time in fonline2238, I will remember a bunch of mean cheating exploiting not nice people. why would I want to stay around?
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why would I want to stay around?
this game is addictive so its not your choice to stay or leave.
also if your going to go allready...... damn i hate it when people say am gonna leave but stay and track there thread. if your serouis about leaveing go.
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no let him stay...more trolls will feed on his rage...
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I'm not "leaving" I refuse to play, Its against my better judgement to start new characters. they will only be stolen by these people. you can't expect these people to say anything but lies, they are wrong and know they have broken certain ethics, just to "beat" someone. You think they stole 1 character and 1 base, they did it many times, and never stopped. its not once or twice now, but a habit of theirs to steal from me, and get away with it. I can't play, all my items and alts will be stolen from soon as they are leveled. why would I bother? also stop trolling with abuse, you will get red carded just for that.
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elvis ... make a new alt and make sure no one knows the alts name not even your best fo friend. this way no one can steal it.
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In general its one thing to grief someone...
Its one thing to rob them in game, or even to tell someone to go infiltrate them and then base rape them.
And 100% different to hack their accounts and do it.
While the first 2 cases are just a matter of "you should have been more careful" the third case SHOULD BE FROWNED UPON an Punished.
Even in games where YOU PAY to play them when someone Hacks into someone elses account etc they are BANNED, ip blocked etc.
In a free game where we are here to enjoy a community of gamers for gamers and provide feedback to the Devs for further game improvement such behavior SHOULD BE PUNISHED EVEN MORE! Cause its obvious people like that dont care for the community but only for the lols.
Once again this has NOTHING to do with harsh wasteland. It has to do with childing 5 year old assholes. Its up to the community to say that yes killing and griefing in game are part of the "harsheness" but acts like this are punishable.
The line has to be drawn somewhere...
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+1 to what Ymeogamaouas said
And a few words to Red pants - shut the fuck up... you`re trying too hard
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if they actually did hack your accounts, they should be punished serverly. If you get robbed/killed/thieved. then one can always say: though luck.
But actually having your accounts stolen and used to rob you blind? no that is unacceptable and should receive heavy punishment.
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I'll just pop these right here:
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=9505.0
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=16258
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Yes it should be punishable.
But in practice investigating such case is many hours (or days) of both devs and GM work, searching logs, looking for and interrogating people, trying to find out who is lying and it's very hard to prove anything. The question is why should this be done in the first place if they aren't paid for it. YOU are responsible for safety of your own account dude. This is a free game. Don't share alts, don't use passwords like "ass", don't let other people install trojans on your PC and you should be fine.
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true true...
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Yes it should be punishable.
But in practice investigating such case is many hours (or days) of both devs and GM work, searching logs, looking for and interrogating people, trying to find out who is lying and it's very hard to prove anything. The question is why should this be done in the first place if they aren't paid for it. YOU are responsible for safety of your own account dude. This is a free game. Don't share alts, don't use passwords like "ass", don't let other people install trojans on your PC and you should be fine.
Its actually very easy and it may take a few hours but not days or many hours.
You check the logs for character X. What IPs have been there? lets say IP 1, 2 and 3.
You ask the owner, what is your IP mate? He says IP 2 is mine. You check and indeed see that IP 2 is the most used with these toons.
You the proceed to IP block IP 1 and 3. Hacker blocked.
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Its actually very easy and it may take a few hours but not days or many hours.
You check the logs for character X. What IPs have been there? lets say IP 1, 2 and 3.
You ask the owner, what is your IP mate? He says IP 2 is mine. You check and indeed see that IP 2 is the most used with these toons.
You the proceed to IP block IP 1 and 3. Hacker blocked.
Not that easy if u got dynamic IP, bye the way no one will take care about topic problem.
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Since when is any fonline account your property? :>
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I am glad certain people are starting to understand what I'm saying, here is how I put it, Why should I start playing if its all just going to happen again? nothing has been implemented to prevent Alt stealing. it's too late for me to have the given back, duh. but I can't play until I feel their is more secure way to protect you online game characters. I had an idea that might be a good idea to make all players have a master login before they create or log into characters. that way ever player must have all their accounts attached to a master login. this way, it could be easily proven who owns the alt, as well as being able to give the characters back to their legitimate owners. anyway if we had a master login for our characters it would be easy to prevent anyone from stealing alts ever.
I would never want what happened to me happen to any one else, no one deserves this treatment. and on a side note, I feel certain levels of the community are ruining the RPG story context, by creating some kind of evil only version of fallout cannon via this 2238 server, I mean, people are not very nice to anyone, well a small majority, and I think this type of community should rally against this awful behavior and bullying.
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omg you are still here?
didnt u say i am goning to leave FO ? come uninstal fo and good luck...bey
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let me makes this clear one more time, before more negative trolls attack, People from my country who where playing fallout 2238 posed as police and threatened me, I did not take the threats serious as they where only threats, but posing as police is serious crime, so I filed a police report, this happened a long time ago, and posing as police can land you in jail, so unless you want to help stop this, don't post negative comments, you don't know who is watching these posts.
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Well I can't be bothered to read all these posts but I am willing to share my opinion, make a new character. I am so very sorry for your loss, my condolences you silly misguided retarded rabbit.
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buwawawawawawa....man get a real life and stop acting like a kid
dude please stop posting and uninstal this game and stop beeging everyone for attention...
we just dont care about your (stolen by your fault) pixels...and i dont want to troll you but i just cant i just cant...you just beg for it posting this whines here...what did you tell to the police man "sir i am playing free mmo game fo2238 and i am added to enclave and i got outpost and 2 mutated cows, and someone stole my armors and energy weapons and they said they will kill me in game but maby they are threating me, can you put them to jail because gm dont listen me and i dont have real life and this is my biggest life problem"...dude really please stop posting you are emabarrassing yourself every another word...and moderatos i really didnt want to troll him but it was for his good
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pretending to be police is a crime. whatever you are saying is in terrible english.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0
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my english can be bad but i am not crying baby here...come on please!!! quit this game and stop waiting for another post..after i knew you a little i am just happy you decided to quit fo once and for all...good luck in real life maby you will find real world is also "not very nice"
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Mr Ban, I reported you're private message to Admins. you look like an obvious fake account trying to start trouble "Mr Ban" I think my report of this exploit has hit a nerve in certain players who take advantage of the fact its impossible to protect you characters once stolen.
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man you just won reward for biggest looser and crybaby in FO...i am done
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Here is a personal message fro MR Ban to me, via forum private messaging:
quit this game silly kid...and stop waisting me time...god you can see this and you dont do anythign...>facepalm< man i dont fucking care about your loss..for me you could even lost your mother raped by 13 niggers your life and your problems are nothing for me...stop crying and waiting for kindnes from strangers...this is my last message for you...uninstal game and start live like a normal man in your age...
also I have moved this topic to a different thread. if Devs or Gm want to lock this thread by all means.
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lol i think FOnline is full of trolls like mr. Ban who got no reallifes .
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lol i think FOnline is full of trolls like mr. Ban who got no reallifes .
yes well playing this game, I only have spare time for, for real world people, I need to make a good living and work hard pay the bills taxes etc... for the player base to affect my work life and home life, I did not tolerate, hence why I filed a report with the police. for me to invest time into the server right now would be insane, unless some kind of safe guard or policy is introduced to protect players from stolen accounts. I just wishing to enjoy the game, and my time off from work. also, fallout 2 is an 18+ game. (in my country) why kids are playing on this server is beyond me. the content is how you say, illegal for minors. and to market the game to an illegal market is only setting in stone for trouble with the law.
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Had to leave my two bits on this one...who in their right mind EVER gives somebody else their password??? I play this game with my ACTUAL brother and I would not give him MY password! Nor, do I want his, as it is not meant for me. If you have been hacked, then they need to be dealt with; however, if you actually gave someone your password and are crying because they ganked you while you were out, LESSON LEARNED!!!!
Never give out your password, even to "law enforcement". I would go to jail for contempt before giving my passwords up. If your computer is not secure, get it fixed!
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buwawawawawawa....man get a real life and stop acting like a kid
dude please stop posting and uninstal this game and stop beeging everyone for attention...
we just dont care about your (stolen by your fault) pixels...and i dont want to troll you but i just cant i just cant...you just beg for it posting this whines here...what did you tell to the police man "sir i am playing free mmo game fo2238 and i am added to enclave and i got outpost and 2 mutated cows, and someone stole my armors and energy weapons and they said they will kill me in game but maby they are threating me, can you put them to jail because gm dont listen me and i dont have real life and this is my biggest life problem"...dude really please stop posting you are emabarrassing yourself every another word...and moderatos i really didnt want to troll him but it was for his good
Hey Mr. Ban... you mad boy? Why you so mad?
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Had to leave my two bits on this one...who in their right mind EVER gives somebody else their password??? I play this game with my ACTUAL brother and I would not give him MY password! Nor, do I want his, as it is not meant for me. If you have been hacked, then they need to be dealt with; however, if you actually gave someone your password and are crying because they ganked you while you were out, LESSON LEARNED!!!!
Never give out your password, even to "law enforcement". I would go to jail for contempt before giving my passwords up. If your computer is not secure, get it fixed!
you're a little off topic, this is about preventing players from keeping others characters, not some much about the crime itself..
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elvis quit your drugs
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Sorry, but this thread leads to nowhere.