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Title: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Dequ on January 27, 2012, 09:58:44 pm
Example I wanna make 1k nukas.

Things I need to do:
- Kill 1000 brahmins
- Gather 1000 fibers
- Craft 1000 waterbags
- Pick 2000 apples
- Farm 1000 secs
- Carry all that to nearest nukamachine
- Use 1000 waterbags, 1000 secs and 2000 apples on nukamachine.
- Wait 5000 seconds.
- Get killed few times and nukas stolen.

That is like 50k clicks and over 100 hours of gameplay.
I don't think this service the purpose of this game.

I hope that i could make atleast 20 nukas from 1 waterbag or something.
I really wish some changes.

Overall it feels like everything getting harder and harder to obtain, that means less pvp fights, no wonder number of players is dropping and gonna drop even more in near future. I hope less time to craft and collect gears and more time on pvp fights.

If these changes are suppose to make game harder, they wont.
Those just make u to spend more time crafting and collecting stuffs and gears.

I wish to hear people opinion about this and overall changes of this game.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on January 27, 2012, 10:03:27 pm
Where at sort of location is best to gather fibers?
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Michaelh139 on January 27, 2012, 10:04:49 pm
Where at sort of location is best to gather fibers?
Best experience at Den.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: TheGreenHand on January 27, 2012, 10:05:41 pm
Wasteland is harsh.


But aside from that, why do you want to make 1000 nuka colas?  It'll take you a long time to use that many.  And there's other ways to obtain them.  Vendors, looting dead players sometimes, stealing, etc.  And you can buy them for 100 caps each from the Skum Pitt in junktown.  So that's fairly reasonable, I think.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Michaelh139 on January 27, 2012, 10:07:51 pm
So that's fairly reasonable, I think.
.........

No it isn't.  :(
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Dequ on January 27, 2012, 10:09:53 pm
Wasteland is harsh.


But aside from that, why do you want to make 1000 nuka colas?  It'll take you a long time to use that many.  And there's other ways to obtain them.  Vendors, looting dead players sometimes, stealing, etc.  And you can buy them for 100 caps each from the Skum Pitt in junktown.  So that's fairly reasonable, I think.

I dont have extra caps for spending nukas. I need to buy other drugs(buffout and spycho) from vendors. And its pretty hard to get any money.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Fettel on January 27, 2012, 10:11:34 pm
Wasteland is harsh.


But aside from that, why do you want to make 1000 nuka colas?  It'll take you a long time to use that many.  And there's other ways to obtain them.  Vendors, looting dead players sometimes, stealing, etc.  And you can buy them for 100 caps each from the Skum Pitt in junktown.  So that's fairly reasonable, I think.

What if we don't have that kinda money to buy 1000 nuka colas, what if we wanna make them by our own hands.

Edit: Damn ninjas :D
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Alexandrite on January 27, 2012, 10:17:23 pm
What if we don't have that kinda money to buy 1000 nuka colas, what if we wanna make them by our own hands.

Edit: Damn ninjas :D

Those aren't ninjas, they're bursting sneakers... I've seen them all day today in NCR...
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Fettel on January 27, 2012, 10:18:44 pm
Those aren't ninjas, they're bursting sneakers... I've seen them all day today in NCR...

to mean with ninjas, Dequ said something I was going to say, he said that faster.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Swarm on January 27, 2012, 10:26:33 pm
You forgot to stand in town for over 9,000 hours is another way to get nuka cola.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Fettel on January 27, 2012, 10:28:18 pm
You forgot to stand in town for over 9,000 hours is another way to get nuka cola.

TC is boring, Swarmers everywhere.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: JovankaB on January 27, 2012, 11:33:47 pm

I think if crafting nukas was made 10 times easier, some people would be complaining
that they can't make 10 000...
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: yoz on January 27, 2012, 11:44:21 pm
It would be nice if the machine gives you back empty water bags instead of eating them.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: TheGreenHand on January 27, 2012, 11:59:02 pm
Simple answer.  If you don't want to spend the time getting your nuka colas, don't make a druggie build.  Make that AG an even number and you can throw away every nuka cola you find.  You sound like you're not in a big gang since you want to make all these nukas yourself, so what do you need a druggie build for anyway?  When are you doing this hardcore pvp?
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Michaelh139 on January 28, 2012, 12:04:00 am
Simple answer.  If you don't want to spend the time getting your nuka colas, don't make a druggie build.  Make that AG an even number and you can throw away every nuka cola you find.  You sound like you're not in a big gang since you want to make all these nukas yourself, so what do you need a druggie build for anyway?  When are you doing this hardcore pvp?
  Why does that even matter?
  It does not matter if he is in a big gang or not why must be limited to non-drug build just depending on whether or not he is?
 It's not your business anyways what he does with the nuka cola.  Fact is making nuka cola is a complete bitch and so is beer btw.  :P
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: DeputyDope on January 28, 2012, 12:09:27 am
what? you can make beer? where?
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Fettel on January 28, 2012, 12:27:14 am
what? you can make beer? where?

Reno, Commercial.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: DeputyDope on January 28, 2012, 12:39:54 am
Reno, Commercial.

hardy har-har
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Tankboy on January 28, 2012, 01:40:12 am
this is a boring change imo,. fine if i would get my waterbag back, even increase the number of fruit needed, but seriusly i dont want to spend hours hunting brahmin just to make a few nukas,. thats just fkkn stupid.

what happens to the waterbag???? 

please fix this, i have no patience for gathering caps for nukas, and damn i need my nukas
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Fenrir on January 28, 2012, 02:02:54 am
This isn't a PvP centric server. The game is still supposed to make it difficult and annoying for you to get mass amounts of anything. In fact, I think it should be harder to get that many Nukas. If you just want '1337 Level 24 Min/Max PvP BG Build/Endgame Loot/Unlimited Ammo/Unlimited drugs', then look for another Fonline Server, or make your own, because you won't find that here.

Edit: You will, but they all had to work hard to get them/maintain them. ;)
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Eraus on January 28, 2012, 02:42:04 am
Damn when it was changed to make nukas with waterbags? I made 50 nukecolas before two weeks I think, and It was boring as hell...but it will be more fun to loot nukas kechehehe
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Tankboy on January 28, 2012, 02:47:42 am
finding fruits, gathering SEC , traveling to themepark or gordons, mix nukas ( 3 clicks each ) was resonable, i see no reason to make it harder, sure increase number of fruit & SEC needed but seriusly, kill a brahmin for every nuka? 

this waterbag thing is just stupid  and i cant beleave some of you are defending it.
*make is harder for the l33t/lvl24 bg blabla, if they so l33t theyll just buy a bunch of nukas.

for a player like me, i like to have a single character, dont rly trade and dont care about caps and hunt for all i need this is a disaster. thank god i mixed 150 nukas before they made this change. but i drink allot so that wont last a long time. guess ill have to waist a day hunting bramah hides for my next nuka mix. sigh

i am hoping the waterbag disapear is a bug and will get fixed, this is the first thing that i has pissed me off since i found Fonline, 2 seasons ago.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: anarchclaw on January 28, 2012, 03:05:15 am
This isn't a PvP centric server. The game is still supposed to make it difficult and annoying for you to get mass amounts of anything. In fact, I think it should be harder to get that many Nukas. If you just want '1337 Level 24 Min/Max PvP BG Build/Endgame Loot/Unlimited Ammo/Unlimited drugs', then look for another Fonline Server, or make your own, because you won't find that here.

Edit: You will, but they all had to work hard to get them/maintain them. ;)

This isn't PvP centric? Are you kidding me? What else is there? Small, short quests with no real continuity or arc? Random NPC encounters that spew generic combat dialogue? No. Players interacting with players on the field of battle.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: avv on January 28, 2012, 11:08:45 am
It seems to be a matter of cumbersome interfaces rather than harshness.

Only problem with crafting nukas is that the waterbags are consumed and they are slow to fill.
Make them not get consumed but emptied and have them filled all by once when clicking waterpipe and lot's of people will be happy.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Solar on January 28, 2012, 11:31:11 am
I don't think the waterbags are intended to disappear.
Title: Re: Game changes that make game more (harder/harsher) - really???
Post by: Swinglinered on January 28, 2012, 11:50:23 pm
What about those bottle container thingies?

Maybe use those instead of waterbags.

And you get them back after drinking.

That would be reasonable.


Mass production shouldn't be easy in the Wasteland, but a brahmin per drink is way too much.