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Title: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Gob on January 18, 2012, 11:42:14 am
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VOTE NO!

http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

"For over a decade, we have spent millions of hours building the largest encyclopedia in human history. Right now, the U.S. Congress is considering legislation that could fatally damage the free and open Internet. For 24 hours, to raise awareness, we are blacking out Wikipedia. Learn more."

Basicaly you will get like an ID for your IP and if the goverment doesn't like you they can just ban you off the internet.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Fettel on January 18, 2012, 12:07:27 pm
Mother of god.

good thing i am behind 10 proxies..

Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Slaver Snipe on January 18, 2012, 12:17:17 pm
Is this the first you've heard of it? If so maybe the wikipedia blackout/google shit will be useful.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Crazy on January 18, 2012, 02:28:11 pm
Actually the title should be "The end of freedom on the internet in USA". There are already other countries without net freedom. Though those are mostly dictatorship.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Nikkex on January 18, 2012, 02:32:44 pm
Not only USA! They censored Pirate Bay few weeks ago in Finland!
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Surf on January 18, 2012, 02:40:20 pm
The SOPA law approval has been shelved for now, so you can get your hopes up. :)

As for en.wikipedia, there is a slight delay when a page loaded till the "wiki is blacked for today blabla" - just make the browser stop further loading the page and you can read it.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Fettel on January 18, 2012, 02:45:05 pm
Quote from: Nikkex on January 18, 2012, 02:32:44 pm
Not only USA! They censored Pirate Bay few weeks ago in Finland!

I know that feeling bro.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Crazy on January 18, 2012, 03:43:58 pm
Quote from: Surf on January 18, 2012, 02:40:20 pm
The SOPA law approval has been shelved for now, so you can get your hopes up. :)

Yeah, heard that Obama said he wouldn't support those law, so both SOPA and PIPA seem doomed.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Andr3aZ on January 18, 2012, 05:33:48 pm
Informational video here:
http://vimeo.com/31100268
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: merlin on January 18, 2012, 07:55:11 pm
This game may be the first thing to go. I'm not sure but even though it is a free game, SOPA and PIPA both are meant to keep foreign websites and domains from infringing on American copyrights, as an American all I can say is WTF congress. None of the American internet users can support this bill. If you are an American call your Reps today and tell them to vote no on both issues.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Gob on January 18, 2012, 07:58:32 pm
More info here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDX8Lyl16Qs&feature=BFa&list=PL3B0BF0172B7D9BD2&lf=plpp_play_all

No this wasn't the first time I heard about it. I did see some talking about it on blogs and stuff but I didn't give it much thought. Now I see it gets serious. And no it's not "shelved" it's pending for an approval and soon it will be approved if we don't do anything.

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VOTE NO!

http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: solid snake on January 18, 2012, 08:11:42 pm
im confused why people over here in the US are more concerned about SOPA than they were about NDAA. Obama doesnt support SOPA and PIPA but supports US citizens being able to be locked away for being terrorists. the term terrorist is so loose these days. in theory opposing SOPA can make you are terrorist. i dont get it...
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Surf on January 18, 2012, 08:27:27 pm
Quote from: Gob on January 18, 2012, 07:58:32 pm
And no it's not "shelved" it's pending for an approval and soon it will be approved if we don't do anything.

http://www.slashgear.com/sopa-shelved-after-obama-announcement-16209449/



 ::)
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Quentin Lang on January 18, 2012, 09:38:21 pm
Quote from: Surf on January 18, 2012, 08:27:27 pm
http://www.slashgear.com/sopa-shelved-after-obama-announcement-16209449/



 ::)
Funny, he said exactly the same about NDAA, which passed couple days later...
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Michaelh139 on January 18, 2012, 09:41:18 pm
I honestly don't have any worries.

If this passes, I assure you, there will be major riots.  (not kidding)

Just imagine how crazy people get about random things on internet all the time :D.   Imagine if that happened to ALL of the internet pretty much? ;)

Even if it is passed, it won't last a day or maybe 2 at the most. 8)
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Gob on January 19, 2012, 12:01:31 am
Quote from: Michaelh139 on January 18, 2012, 09:41:18 pm
I honestly don't have any worries.

If this passes, I assure you, there will be major riots.  (not kidding)

Just imagine how crazy people get about random things on internet all the time :D.   Imagine if that happened to ALL of the internet pretty much? ;)

Even if it is passed, it won't last a day or maybe 2 at the most. 8)

I hope you are right.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Slaver Snipe on January 19, 2012, 04:51:54 am
"It is an irresponsible response and a disservice to people who rely on them for information," Mr Dodd said in a statement, calling the actions taken by the high-profile websites "yet another gimmick".

Oh shit, word has gotten out to the "common" populace so it's wrong!  Also, 8 backers have left it since the blackout  ;D
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Cailleach on January 19, 2012, 08:14:55 am
Quote from: Michaelh139 on January 18, 2012, 09:41:18 pm
I honestly don't have any worries.

If this passes, I assure you, there will be major riots.  (not kidding)

Just imagine how crazy people get about random things on internet all the time :D.   Imagine if that happened to ALL of the internet pretty much? ;)

Even if it is passed, it won't last a day or maybe 2 at the most. 8)


Agreed!  There will riots and protests everywhere if this passes.  Americans are pissed off enough with the Government and Corporate America, this will send the general population over the edge. 

But let's not forget it's an election year.  Anyone supporting this will not be reelected.  So it will serve as a nice little distraction from the important issues for a time and will probably go away.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Prometheus Pithras on January 19, 2012, 08:48:49 am
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/01/13/pipa-weakens-as-sopa-gets-hypocritical/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/01/13/pipa-weakens-as-sopa-gets-hypocritical/)

: )
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Michaelh139 on January 19, 2012, 12:15:43 pm
Quote from: Prometheus Pithras on January 19, 2012, 08:48:49 am
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/01/13/pipa-weakens-as-sopa-gets-hypocritical/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/01/13/pipa-weakens-as-sopa-gets-hypocritical/)

: )
AHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA, that's called irony, justice, and kick-ass.

We win, nuff said.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: ErnestGaskin on January 19, 2012, 02:51:47 pm
Ok, now for the final effort.

Lets build a giant wall to cut the US out of the rest of this world. imagine that. No bothers anymore. No more Friends!
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Gob on January 19, 2012, 09:49:08 pm
Megaupload, one of the internet's largest file-sharing sites, has been shut down by officials in the US.

The site's founder have been charged with violating piracy laws.

Federal prosecutors have accused it of costing copyright holders more than $500m (£320m) in lost revenue. The firm says it was diligent in responding to complaints about pirated material.

Investigators denied a link to recent protests against proposed piracy laws, according to the Wall Street Journal.

The US Justice Department said that Kim Dotcom, formerly known as Kim Schmitz, and three others were arrested in Auckland, New Zealand at the request of US officials. It added that three other defendants were still at large.

"This action is among the largest criminal copyright cases ever brought by the United States and directly targets the misuse of a public content storage and distribution site to commit and facilitate intellectual property crime," said a statement posted on the FBI's website.

Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Luther Blissett on January 19, 2012, 10:08:37 pm
Yup : Article here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369). I hosted a lot of files on there for work related source files and transfer stuff, which I've now obviously lost. Bunch of fucking cunts (apologies for language).

Anyway, as mentioned in the edit to the 3D tutorial thread, Megaupload was where I hosted all the files for those tutorials. Can anyone recommend another simple, straight to the point file uploader? It will take a while to get that stuff all back up there, so if anyone has previously downloaded any of these, it'd be a great help if they could also upload some of that stuff.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Surf on January 19, 2012, 10:14:43 pm
Mediafire is a good and convenient uploader, you can store stuff directly in folders too.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Gob on January 19, 2012, 10:14:53 pm
Quote from: Luther Blissett on January 19, 2012, 10:08:37 pm
Yup : Article here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369). I hosted a lot of files on there for work related source files and transfer stuff, which I've now obviously lost. Bunch of fucking cunts (apologies for language).

Anyway, as mentioned in the edit to the 3D tutorial thread, Megaupload was where I hosted all the files for those tutorials. Can anyone recommend another simple, straight to the point file uploader? It will take a while to get that stuff all back up there, so if anyone has previously downloaded any of these, it'd be a great help if they could also upload some of that stuff.

And free SVN account or use an FTP server.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: solid snake on January 19, 2012, 11:37:05 pm
they now have all the download logs.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Andr3aZ on January 19, 2012, 11:51:49 pm
Quote from: solid snake on January 19, 2012, 11:37:05 pm
they now have all the download logs.

If youre outside of the US, they won't do shit even if you've downloaded some stuff that might been not so legal.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Luther Blissett on January 19, 2012, 11:56:25 pm
Mediafire/SVN/FTP stuff : There seems to be indications that there's a chance that Mediafire / Rapidshare etc are going to fall foul of exactly what happened to Megaupload (hopefully not, but you know how these things work - once one goes it sets the standard). Any indications yet that any are definitely safe?

Regarding SVN things, are there any free hosts you could recommend which contain a large amount of storage space?

I know I could google some of this myself, but if you guys are already using something / know more about them, you might be able to give me a far better answer.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Y0ssarian on January 20, 2012, 03:42:36 am
I hate freedoms and liberty so I hope this gets through.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: LagMaster on January 20, 2012, 10:41:07 am
the internet must be free, it's the only world where you can retreat, is the only place people with not so fuch freedom in real world come and recreate

for example, i like to play shooters from time to time just to kill something, if they ban me on the net i will go comando with an AK at the white house and bring it to smithereense, just for they banning me for the freedom of legal killing
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Saumax on January 20, 2012, 12:18:53 pm
well well, i wondered how long it takes before such topic would be created, anyway i suggest everybody to get familiar with "freenet project" - its a poor for now but if there will be censorship of the net it will gain support and lot of data

//

btw Europe should be more afraid of ACTA not SOPA/PIPA

Code: [Select]
TRADE POLICY
Anti-counterfeiting trade agreement
The Council adopted a decision authorising the signing of an anti-counterfeiting trade agreement
(ACTA) with Australia, Canada, Japan, the Republic of Korea, Mexico, Morocco, New Zealand,
Singapore, Switzerland and the United States.
ACTA is aimed at establishing an international framework to improve the enforcement of
intellectual property right laws and create improved international standards for actions against
large-scale infringements of intellectual property. Negotiations were concluded in November 2010.
A part of pressdata EU Council meeting (last page)

//

Also we should think about usenet

And yes, im paranoid ; p
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Dark Angel on January 20, 2012, 03:08:07 pm
LONG LIVE TO ANONYMOUS!
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Quentin Lang on January 20, 2012, 05:16:13 pm
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-57362437-256/anonymous-goes-nuclear-everybody-loses/ (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-57362437-256/anonymous-goes-nuclear-everybody-loses/)

Well, that at least shows the gov't scrubs that some people ain't going to live with SOPA and will take action if needed.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Gob on January 20, 2012, 08:37:48 pm
Another step towards new world order.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: desertfox2126 on January 21, 2012, 04:32:25 am
so i tried to dl something from megaupload and i guess its been seized... its the end of the interwebs as we know it
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: jodwig on January 21, 2012, 01:39:49 pm
In Anonymous we trust.

Well, US government can try on becoming the enemies of whole world, if they have balls, that's it.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Gob on January 21, 2012, 02:53:24 pm
Quote from: jodwig on January 21, 2012, 01:39:49 pm
Well, US government can try on becoming the enemies of whole world, if they have balls, that's it.

I thought they are already.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: desertfox2126 on January 22, 2012, 01:58:57 pm
Quote from: Gob on January 21, 2012, 02:53:24 pm
I thought they are already.
just about
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Lizard on January 22, 2012, 08:42:31 pm
Quote from: Saumax on January 20, 2012, 12:18:53 pm
Also we should think about usenet

Forget about Usenet or Firstload.

You can't quit your membership, since they ignore your quitting letters, so they can receive their 100 bucks from you annually.
If not, they get lawyers on your back and force them out of you. Mail bills doesn't count to them as evidence.
When you get your mail sent by your lawyer and force your way out of this threadmill, they'll send your download logs to external lawyer agency and start a copyright break lawsuit against you, which you most probably lose.

And that's why i'm not downloading shit from them for long time ago, since logs are deleted every two years.

Another matter are the Megaupload premium users now.
The FBI have their logs.
Heads will roll.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Reiniat on January 22, 2012, 09:11:09 pm
Quote from: Gob on January 20, 2012, 08:37:48 pm
Another step towards new world order.
OH PLEASE!!!!
When was the last time that you searched something useful on internet? Did you make something more than  just say "Go Anonymus, fuck SOPA"? How many time you spend watching porn?
DONT YOU SEE? WE ARE THE NEW ORDER
People have the oportunity to know THE TRUTH (or at least something close to it) on internet, and what do you do with it? just use it for fun, banality.
THAT is the new order, that is the reason for censure became outdated, the new world order is based in the fact that people have the tools at his hands, but they live in complacency, they dont care, they dont need to care of the truth or make something against the order...they can watch horrible things in the news and then just "oh such a shame" "they must pay for it". AND WHAT CHANGES? NOTHING. Millions of humans are dying and what does the rest? "this is outrageous" "such a barbarity" and then what? NOTHING HAPPENS!!!

So, USA dont needs to censure the internet because censure something is the best way to make everyone interest in it. SOPA or any other laws are just pathetic intents to not lose money from music, videogames, movies, etc. companyes (wich in a perfect world, would surely be good requests), and you all pitty people raise your hands in the name of the freedom and the right of expression....  :P

in other stuff...
Quote from: Lizard on January 22, 2012, 08:42:31 pm
Another matter are the Megaupload premium users now.
The FBI have their logs.
Heads will roll.
OH SHIT  ;D
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Lizard on January 22, 2012, 09:44:32 pm
In other words, people get used to the chains they get on. And that's pathetic.
Title: Re: The end of freedom on the internet
Post by: Gob on January 23, 2012, 11:18:01 pm
Quote from: Reiniat on January 22, 2012, 09:11:09 pm
OH PLEASE!!!!
When was the last time that you searched something useful on internet? Did you make something more than  just say "Go Anonymus, fuck SOPA"? How many time you spend watching porn?
DONT YOU SEE? WE ARE THE NEW ORDER
People have the oportunity to know THE TRUTH (or at least something close to it) on internet, and what do you do with it? just use it for fun, banality.
THAT is the new order, that is the reason for censure became outdated, the new world order is based in the fact that people have the tools at his hands, but they live in complacency, they dont care, they dont need to care of the truth or make something against the order...they can watch horrible things in the news and then just "oh such a shame" "they must pay for it". AND WHAT CHANGES? NOTHING. Millions of humans are dying and what does the rest? "this is outrageous" "such a barbarity" and then what? NOTHING HAPPENS!!!

So, USA dont needs to censure the internet because censure something is the best way to make everyone interest in it. SOPA or any other laws are just pathetic intents to not lose money from music, videogames, movies, etc. companyes (wich in a perfect world, would surely be good requests), and you all pitty people raise your hands in the name of the freedom and the right of expression....  :P

Big words....but what are you doing about this matter ?